OK Racists, It's Time to do the Math.

[IM2]

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

Table 43​

ucr.fbi.gov

Here endeth the lesson.

 

[IM2]

Um I could be cute and post his as a response to cutie pie IM2: . nah on second thought, youy NEVER saw that.

Try replying to the information in the OP.

 

[MaryL]

Um I could be cute and post his as a response to cutie pie IM2 second thought, youy NEVER saw that.

Try replying to the information in the OP.

Nah. What, you going to cry to mama and the mods now?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

There are 5 times as many whites.
Why aren't white crimes 5 times the black crimes?

Wrong answer. You don't get to commit 5 times more crime because there are 5 times more of you.

Funny how that argument is never considered when we discuss college test scores and things of that nature. Only when it's time to make excuses which white racists are very good at doing.

You don't get to commit 5 times more crime because there are 5 times more of you.

You do if you commit crimes at the same rate.

Funny how that argument is never considered when we discuss college test scores

What argument? Whites have much higher scores than black.

Only when it's time to make excuses which white racists are very good at doing.

Who is making excuses for higher black crime rates?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

Table 43​

ucr.fbi.gov

Here endeth the lesson.

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime.

I think the claim is "50 or more percent of the violent crime"

More than half the murders/manslaughter...more than half the robbery.
From only 13% of the population. Weird.

 

[BlackSand]

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

View attachment 498100
View attachment 498102

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

Table 43

ucr.fbi.gov

Here endeth the lesson.

Lesson in Applied Mathematics

Using the US Census Population Numbers ... Whites 76.3% / Blacks 13.4%

We will use the numbers IM2 provided for any further explanation.

Total Population: 329,064,917

Whites
76.3% of 329,064,917 = 251,076,532
(rounded up to the closest whole number because there is never a fraction of a whole person)

6,816,975 crimes are committed by a White population that represents 251,076,532 people
Expressed as 1 crime for every 36 Whites
(rounded down to the closest number because you cannot have a fraction of a whole person)

Blacks
13.4% of 329,064,917 = 44,094,699
(rounded up to the closest whole number because there is never a fraction of a whole person)

1,815,144 crimes are committed by a Black population that represents 44,094,699 people
Expressed as 1 crime for every 24 Blacks
(rounded down to the closest number because you cannot have a fraction of a whole person)

Per Capita
For every 100 Whites there are 2.8 crimes committed by Whites
For every 100 Blacks there are 4.6 crimes committed by Blacks


Applied Mathematics Lesson Complete

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[Scottish_Brexiteer_UK]

OK I've actually looked at the OP and went away and checked various sources. Some of these points will probably already be mentioned above (I've not read the replies yet).

The black population is just over 13%.
The white population is just over 60%

According to my calculations (and maths has never been my strong point so I could have made a complete pigs ear of this)

There's more than 4 times the amount of whites in the USA than there is blacks.

Blacks commit almost 27% of all crime despite making up only 13% of the total population.
Whites commit around 69.5% of all crime making up 60% of the population.

That's still a big disparity - almost double !

Blacks, per head of population still commit considerably more crime than whites and whilst a crime is a crime (for the sake of debate purposes here) I think you still need to dig down further and distinguish between arrests for unpaid parking tickets, dodgy book keeping/accounting, money laundering, insider trading etc and violent crimes against humanity like gun crime, drug dealing, murder, rape, serious assault, armed robbery and the like you'll see a whole new picture in the black vs white demographic.

You have to take into account too that the last census has the white race dropping by 9 percentage points in fairly recent years so if the demographic was 70% white then that dilutes these figures further and looks worse for the blacks.

There's no escaping it.

Statistics are like mini skirts - they give you a little peek of what you want to see but always hide the good bit (the truth).

Stats can always be presented to suit any view point.

 

[BlackSand]

OK I've actually looked at the OP and went away and checked various sources. Some of these points will probably already be mentioned above (I've not read the replies yet).

The black population is just over 13%.
The white population is just over 60%

According to my calculations (and maths has never been my strong point so I could have made a complete pigs ear of this)

There's more than 4 times the amount of whites in the USA than there is blacks.

Blacks commit almost 27% of all crime despite making up only 13% of the total population.
Whites commit around 69.5% of all crime making up 60% of the population.

That's still a big disparity - almost double !

Blacks, per head of population still commit considerably more crime than whites and whilst a crime is a crime (for the sake of debate purposes here) I think you still need to dig down further and distinguish between arrests for unpaid parking tickets, dodgy book keeping/accounting, money laundering, insider trading etc and violent crimes against humanity like gun crime, drug dealing, murder, rape, serious assault, armed robbery and the like you'll see a whole new picture in the black vs white demographic.

You have to take into account too that the last census has the white race dropping by 9 percentage points in fairly recent years so if the demographic was 70% white then that dilutes these figures further and looks worse for the blacks.

There's no escaping it.

Statistics are like mini skirts - they give you a little peek of what you want to see but always hide the good bit (the truth).

Stats can always be presented to suit any view point.

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Statistics only lie when the person using them doesn't understand Applied Mathematics in regards to the question they are trying to answer.

If you don't properly use Applied Mathematics when you want to build a bridge, the bridge could fall down, and it isn't subjective.
Thus the difference in the Sciences versus the Humanities.

If you ask the correct question, and work the proper equation to answer that question, the answer is true.

You see, Applied Mathematics is bound by absolutes and not theory.

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[Scottish_Brexiteer_UK]

OK I've actually looked at the OP and went away and checked various sources. Some of these points will probably already be mentioned above (I've not read the replies yet).

The black population is just over 13%.
The white population is just over 60%

According to my calculations (and maths has never been my strong point so I could have made a complete pigs ear of this)

There's more than 4 times the amount of whites in the USA than there is blacks.

Blacks commit almost 27% of all crime despite making up only 13% of the total population.
Whites commit around 69.5% of all crime making up 60% of the population.

That's still a big disparity - almost double !

Blacks, per head of population still commit considerably more crime than whites and whilst a crime is a crime (for the sake of debate purposes here) I think you still need to dig down further and distinguish between arrests for unpaid parking tickets, dodgy book keeping/accounting, money laundering, insider trading etc and violent crimes against humanity like gun crime, drug dealing, murder, rape, serious assault, armed robbery and the like you'll see a whole new picture in the black vs white demographic.

You have to take into account too that the last census has the white race dropping by 9 percentage points in fairly recent years so if the demographic was 70% white then that dilutes these figures further and looks worse for the blacks.

There's no escaping it.

Statistics are like mini skirts - they give you a little peek of what you want to see but always hide the good bit (the truth).

Stats can always be presented to suit any view point.

.

Statistics only lie when the person using them doesn't understand Applied Mathematics in regards to the question they are trying to answer.

If you don't properly use Applied Mathematics when you want to build a bridge, the bridge will fall down.
Thus the difference in the Sciences versus the Humanities.

If you ask the correct question, and work the proper equation to answer that question, the answer is true.

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I know. That's what I mean though - they are unwilling to study the numbers.

Kinda like blind ignorance just seeing what they want to see and running with it.

Very disingenuous. Science/fact and feelings/emotions are two different things. You can't build your bridge on feelings.

 

[yidnar]

Does anyone know IM2's real name? I don't know that he's ever shared it.

We should give him one.

Thoughts?

lets call her shivershits the cowardly racist !

 

[yidnar]

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

Table 43​

ucr.fbi.gov

Here endeth the lesson.

black males are only 6% of the population .

 

[BlackSand]

I know. That's what I mean though - they are unwilling to study the numbers.

Kinda like blind ignorance just seeing what they want to see and running with it.

Very disingenuous. Science/fact and feelings/emotions are two different things. You can't build your bridge on feelings.

.

Correct ... I really only added the comment because some people try to run away from statistics.

They will say that statistics will lie, when what they really mean is that people don't know how to work the equations ...
Or they asked the wrong question and tried to make the wrong answer mean something it doesn't.

There is also the condition that they worked the right equation, came up with the right answer, correctly applied it to the question they were asking ...
But they still don't have clue what they are attempting to do, asked the wrong question to start with, and think it means something it doesn't ...

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[Scottish_Brexiteer_UK]

Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.

 

[IM2]

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

View attachment 498100
View attachment 498102

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

Table 43

ucr.fbi.gov

Here endeth the lesson.

Lesson in Applied Mathematics

Using the US Census Population Numbers ... Whites 76.3% / Blacks 13.4%

We will use the numbers IM2 provided for any further explanation.

Total Population: 329,064,917

Whites
76.3% of 329,064,917 = 251,076,532
(rounded up to the closest whole number because there is never a fraction of a whole person)

6,816,975 crimes are committed by a White population that represents 251,076,532 people
Expressed as 1 crime for every 36 Whites
(rounded down to the closest number because you cannot have a fraction of a whole person)

Blacks
13.4% of 329,064,917 = 44,094,699
(rounded up to the closest whole number because there is never a fraction of a whole person)

1,815,144 crimes are committed by a Black population that represents 44,094,699 people
Expressed as 1 crime for every 24 Blacks
(rounded down to the closest number because you cannot have a fraction of a whole person)

Per Capita
For every 100 Whites there are 2.8 crimes committed by Whites
For every 100 Blacks there are 4.6 crimes committed by Blacks


Applied Mathematics Lesson Complete

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I didn't use per capita on purpose. But since you keep looking for excuses to justify your racism, for every 100 blacks 95 blacks are not committing crimes and 97 whites are not committing crimes. So the claim of this high black crime rate is non existent. But since I broke this down to the number of criminal participants by population as a population itself, it shows that 0.0055 percent of the American population who are black commits crime and 1.4 percent of the population who commit crimes are white. Both are still low numbers but on an INDIVIDUAL basis meanining 1:1 not per 100 or per 100,000 whites commit more crime.

Applied math apparently is not your strong suit.

 

[IM2]

Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.

No only you racist have because no matter how much you try twisting this, it proves my point.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I didn't use per capita on purpose.

DURR

 

[IM2]

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime. That is inaccurate but the racists want to talk shit about per capita. When shown that per capita reveals that the difference between blacks and white per capita is 6 people, the racists continue. So because they do so, it is time to do the math.

We will use stats from the most recent uniform crime reports Table 43-Arrests by Race/Ethnicity

I will use 2019 population numbers.

The population of U.S. in 2019 was 329,064,917.

6,816,975 people were arrested for crimes. 6,816,975/329,064,917= 0.0207162011

2 percent of the American population participated in criminal activity.

4,729,290 were white. 4,729,290/329,064,917= 0.0143719058

1.4 percent of the U.S population were whites who participated in crime.

1,815,144 were black. 1,815,144/329,064,917=0.00551606661

Just over 1/2 of 1 percent of the U.S population were blacks who participated in crime.

Whites participated in more than double the crime as blacks.

Table 43​

ucr.fbi.gov

Here endeth the lesson.

The claim has been consistently made that blacks are 13 percent of the population but commit 50 or more percent of the crime.

I think the claim is "50 or more percent of the violent crime"

View attachment 498137


More than half the murders/manslaughter...more than half the robbery.
From only 13% of the population. Weird.

Except whites commit 60 percent of the violent crime annually.

I know I am correct here folks.

13 percent of the population are not committing anything when only 2 percent of the population are the ones participating in crime. I understand that you guys are stuck on stupid and you don't want to understand. You want to believe your racist bullshit, but hopefully that changes soon.

 

[Scottish_Brexiteer_UK]

Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.

No only you racist have because no matter how much you try twisting this, it proves my point.

Can you explain how it proves your point, please.

This I've gotta hear.

 

[IM2]

I didn't use per capita on purpose.

DURR

Per capita only proves that blacks are not committing a lot of crime.

 

[IM2]

Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.

No only you racist have because no matter how much you try twisting this, it proves my point.

Can you explain how it proves your point, please.

This I've gotta hear.

Another thing you've got to ask yourselves too is that the small drops of Latino, Asian, Eskimo, Native American folk, combined make up a total % of the population similar to that of the total black population but for the similar % of them when added together, the black still commit considerably more crime than them combined too.

The creator of the thread has had an absolute nightmare.

No only you racist have because no matter how much you try twisting this, it proves my point.

Can you explain how it proves your point, please.

This I've gotta hear.

Ok, let me explain this again using Black Sands "applied math."

According to BlackSand, for every 100 blacks/whites, 4.6 blacks are committing crimes and 2.8 whites are. This means that for every 100 blacks, 95 blacks are not committing crimes and 97 whites are not committing crimes. So the claim of this high black crime rate is non existent. Hence BlackSand provrs my point.

And let's not get stupid. Whites like you guys want to multiply things by 5 instead of looking at the fact you have a problem. But if you multiply things by 5 to make the populations the same, there are things that no longer exist for blacks. We would have more economic opportunity. We would have equal representation relative to numbers of police, lawyers, judges, and political representatives. Things would be dramatically different. Yet those like you and others here fail to understand this. No matter what, you continue arguing this ridiculous per capita idiocy.

Since whites have 5 times the population and want to make that an issue, let’s start multiplying by 5. Blacks have over 2 million businesses right now, let’s multiply that by 5 and then see what the outcome will be. Now there are 10 million black owned businesses and more jobs in the black community. Let us reduce our unemployment rate by 5 to 2.6 percent. Blacks live at a 24 percent rate of poverty so reduce that by 5 to make it 4.5 percent..

The black economy now grows to 6.5 trillion instead of the 1.3 trillion we have now. Blacks now have 5 times the amount of money to spend and invest. What happens them? All kinds of community development, that is what. Now property values increase in the black community and because of that we have more money for our schools. Let us multiply the number of blacks who go to college by 5, there are now 8.5 million blacks in college or getting vocational training. That equals approximately 1 out of every 5 black citizen receiving post-secondary training. This results in a more highly trained and qualified black workforce which increases employment. So this increase in population and jobs lowers the unemployment rate meaning fewer blacks are on government assistance because they have stable employment. Youth crime is reduced even further because youth now have facilities and jobs available in their immediate communities. What happens to crime? It reduces itself by 5 from 26 percent to 5.2 percent. Why? because the factors that create crime are reduced, so then crime is reduced. Yet to the racist nothing else changes. The only change is crime increases. The use of per capita fails miserably and is used by racist whites to deny a severe crime problem THEY need to address instead of trying to preach to us. For if we apply per capita like you racists do, when a white person has 5 dollars and I have 1, it is the same amount.