Ok Mr.Trump, I'm on board.

And one other thing veggy I don't care how much hate is thrown hillary's way I'll never understand how anyone can vote for that vile pos, the con man, the buffoon the liar Drump

Perhaps because Trump voters have brains, while you Commie bitches have a lying, corrupt, criminal, murderer that you admire!
Take it easy veggie I'm not calling you a stupid C--- sucker so cool your vile bs
Are you 30 veggy?

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30 Plus more.... Wussy!

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Awfully one sided. He's had many successful businesses as well.

Hillary's career:

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Awfully one sided. He's had many successful businesses as well.

Hillary's career:

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Sorry, not voting for him. Don't trust him. Just pointing out your one-sidedness.

Zoom guy No dem here imo is 0ne sided We know of policies that need changing but your repub friends do such a good job of bashing obama and hill there's no need for us to join in Now lets talk about the republicans here who give obama zero credit for the many things he did get right.. What crap they are and support that garbage drump? they must have a death wish
 
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Awfully one sided. He's had many successful businesses as well.

Hillary's career:

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Awfully one sided. He's had many successful businesses as well.

Hillary's career:

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Sorry, not voting for him. Don't trust him. Just pointing out your one-sidedness.

Zoom guy No dem here imo is 0ne sided We know of policies that need changing but your repub friends do such a good job of bashing obama and hill there's no need for us to join in Now lets talk about the republicans here who give obama zero credit for the many things he did get right.. What crap they are and support that garbage drump? they must have a death wish


Funny, I don't support Trump, will not vote for him ... yet I can say that while he has had business failures, he has also had successes.

Most Ds fail to acknowledge their pol's failures.

True story.
 
Sorry, not voting for him. Don't trust him. Just pointing out your one-sidedness.

well good luck to you in "stamping out one sided post " Geez Louise LOL

Not stamping out anything, just pointing out how ridiculous your post was.

Oooo, Trump had many business failures. And? That's what happens when you take chances. He's also had numerous extremely successful business ventures.

It would be just as ridiculous to only point out his successes w/out also pointing out his failures.

He's a business guy. He takes risks and chances. His successes outweigh his failures in this.

Annnd, I don't give a shit ... still won't vote for him.
 
Hmmm.. that's interesting because looking objectively at Hillary's record of statements and the positions that she has taken throughout her time in the public spotlight versus Trumps past statements and positions that he has taken throughout his time in the public spotlight, it would appear that Hillary is to the right of Trump on many issues.

Not that I would recommend anybody vote for either of these two miscreants, just that Hillary's past indicates she's more inline with conservatives on issues like foreign policy, national defense and even (as counter-intuitive as it sounds) government spending. Hillary is a liar, cheat and thief but she has been more consistent over the long term than Trump has on the positions she's taken.

At the end of the day it's pretty clear that Trump is nothing but a populist demagogue that will say whatever his target audience wants to hear and doesn't operate on any sort of philosophical principles and aren't conservatives all about principles? What are conservatives going to do if/when Trump gets elected and then proceeds to break each and every "promise" he made during the run up to the election? He's already started back tracking on the positions he took during the GOP primary elections and since he hasn't demonstrated any adherence to principle why would any conservative trust him on ANYTHING he promises?
Can you be more specific? Where specifically is Hillary to the right? And how are you defining the right? Which promise has Trump broken? You made a lot of sweeping allegations and assumed we would all simply accept them as fact.
Go look at the records for yourself weasel, Hillary has been consistently hawkish on foreign policy and national defense since the beginning of her time in the Senate (even going so far as to suggest that War with Iran wasn't off the table at one point), her positions on those two issues have generally aligned quite closely with the war hawk wing of the GOP (Bush, McCain, Graham, et al), she was an advocate as PAY-GO (she voted in favor of it) and her proposals for new spending are rather modest when compared to Trump's ideas (of course she wants to raise taxes to do it).

Trump on the other hand is all over the map with respect to national defense and foreign policy and has no consistent record on his positions on government spending (if you go back through what he has said from just 2000 forward), and he's already back tracking on his positions from the GOP primary campaign (minimum wage, taxes & spending just to name the ones that I've noticed) and what about all his bullshit about self funding his campaign so that he can't be bought? Well in case you haven't heard, that one's out the window for the General Election, Trump is accepting campaign donations for the General, so apparently he CAN BE BOUGHT after all.

Don't get me wrong, I LOATHE Hillary Clinton and would rather drink hemlock than cast a vote for her but I don't see that Donald Trump is any better and in fact I suspect that if he is elected President it will do an ENORMOUS amount of damage to the conservative movement and limited (small) government advocacy.
I don't recall Trump saying war was off the table anywhere.
Do you recall any positions he's taken that align with the conservative hawks that I pointed to BEFORE he started his run for the GOP nomination? Go ahead and do some digging on your own and see if you can find any... pay particular attention to his claims regarding the "war on terror" and what he was saying about it during the Bush Administration.


Presidents don't set minimum wage but where is he to the right of Hillary on it?
I never claimed he was to the right on Hillary on the minimum wage only that he has changed his position on it since the beginning of his run for the GOP nod.

Trump isn't the only GOP candidate in November, there are many state races but how would accepting donations be buying him?
He claimed over and over again that he wasn't going to accept donations AT ALL, that he was self funding and therefor "couldn't be bought", what don't you understand about how those statements are completely contradicted by his now accepting donations? So doesn't it stand to reason that now that he IS accepting donations that he can be "bought" or was the self funding claim all nonsense to begin with?

And how does that put him to the right of Hillary?
Never claimed or implied that it did, I was VERY specific on the issues that I thought Hillary was "to the right" of Trump on based on the history of their statements and positions.

You make sweeping generalizations and blame others for not sharing your opinions.
And what specifics have you offered up? Hint: NOT ONE. I'm only pointing out what I think is likely to happen (if Trump gets elected to POTUS) based on Trump's COMPLETE history in the public eye, not just the complete about-face he's taken during the GOP nomination campaign.
I'm not making your argument for you, if you can't back up your shit don't pin it on me. You used the term conservative hawk, who said he was? You made the claim Hillary was to his right and not all conservative supported Iraq, for example. Hillary has changed her mind on it too and called it a mistake so how does that make her more conservative?

The specifics I offered up was to ask you to support your assertions. You can't.
Weak.

Straight up partisan hackery.

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+ Trump supported President Obama's 2009 stimulus plan
He supported TARP, but then again so did most economists. It shouldn't have gotten there but it did and no bailout would have sent us spiraling into the abyss. It was payed back with interest too.
"most economists"???? what ******* "most economists" is that? Paul Krugman and his flock of hyper-Keynesian apparatchiks? is that the "most economists" you're referring to? I don't know of any Austrians that supported it nor am I aware of any from the Friedman Chicago gang that advocated it , so please supply your empirical evidence that "most economists supported it" and while you're at it explain how government bailouts have suddenly become something that align with small government conservative principles 'cause I seem to recall it being a major sticking point with the Tea Party Movement.
You don't back up a ******* word and then turn around and demand empirical evidence? What's wrong with you? I remember the issue very well, it was a hot political one and I recall almost everyone saying it needed to be done to prevent an even worse collapse of the economy, which was on life support as it was.

You are welcome to believe anything you want but you made the case it put Trump to the left of Hillary. Did you forget your point?
If you recall, many, if not most Republicans, were against it. Especially the Tea Party types. Now he's pretending as if everyone just knew it had to be done, after the fact. Liar doesn't even begin to describe that SOB.

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Can you be more specific? Where specifically is Hillary to the right? And how are you defining the right? Which promise has Trump broken? You made a lot of sweeping allegations and assumed we would all simply accept them as fact.
Go look at the records for yourself weasel, Hillary has been consistently hawkish on foreign policy and national defense since the beginning of her time in the Senate (even going so far as to suggest that War with Iran wasn't off the table at one point), her positions on those two issues have generally aligned quite closely with the war hawk wing of the GOP (Bush, McCain, Graham, et al), she was an advocate as PAY-GO (she voted in favor of it) and her proposals for new spending are rather modest when compared to Trump's ideas (of course she wants to raise taxes to do it).

Trump on the other hand is all over the map with respect to national defense and foreign policy and has no consistent record on his positions on government spending (if you go back through what he has said from just 2000 forward), and he's already back tracking on his positions from the GOP primary campaign (minimum wage, taxes & spending just to name the ones that I've noticed) and what about all his bullshit about self funding his campaign so that he can't be bought? Well in case you haven't heard, that one's out the window for the General Election, Trump is accepting campaign donations for the General, so apparently he CAN BE BOUGHT after all.

Don't get me wrong, I LOATHE Hillary Clinton and would rather drink hemlock than cast a vote for her but I don't see that Donald Trump is any better and in fact I suspect that if he is elected President it will do an ENORMOUS amount of damage to the conservative movement and limited (small) government advocacy.
I don't recall Trump saying war was off the table anywhere.
Do you recall any positions he's taken that align with the conservative hawks that I pointed to BEFORE he started his run for the GOP nomination? Go ahead and do some digging on your own and see if you can find any... pay particular attention to his claims regarding the "war on terror" and what he was saying about it during the Bush Administration.


Presidents don't set minimum wage but where is he to the right of Hillary on it?
I never claimed he was to the right on Hillary on the minimum wage only that he has changed his position on it since the beginning of his run for the GOP nod.

Trump isn't the only GOP candidate in November, there are many state races but how would accepting donations be buying him?
He claimed over and over again that he wasn't going to accept donations AT ALL, that he was self funding and therefor "couldn't be bought", what don't you understand about how those statements are completely contradicted by his now accepting donations? So doesn't it stand to reason that now that he IS accepting donations that he can be "bought" or was the self funding claim all nonsense to begin with?

And how does that put him to the right of Hillary?
Never claimed or implied that it did, I was VERY specific on the issues that I thought Hillary was "to the right" of Trump on based on the history of their statements and positions.

You make sweeping generalizations and blame others for not sharing your opinions.
And what specifics have you offered up? Hint: NOT ONE. I'm only pointing out what I think is likely to happen (if Trump gets elected to POTUS) based on Trump's COMPLETE history in the public eye, not just the complete about-face he's taken during the GOP nomination campaign.
I'm not making your argument for you, if you can't back up your shit don't pin it on me. You used the term conservative hawk, who said he was? You made the claim Hillary was to his right and not all conservative supported Iraq, for example. Hillary has changed her mind on it too and called it a mistake so how does that make her more conservative?

The specifics I offered up was to ask you to support your assertions. You can't.
Weak.

Straight up partisan hackery.
LOL. Straight up hypocrisy. You have nothing.
 
+ Trump supported President Obama's 2009 stimulus plan
He supported TARP, but then again so did most economists. It shouldn't have gotten there but it did and no bailout would have sent us spiraling into the abyss. It was payed back with interest too.
"most economists"???? what ******* "most economists" is that? Paul Krugman and his flock of hyper-Keynesian apparatchiks? is that the "most economists" you're referring to? I don't know of any Austrians that supported it nor am I aware of any from the Friedman Chicago gang that advocated it , so please supply your empirical evidence that "most economists supported it" and while you're at it explain how government bailouts have suddenly become something that align with small government conservative principles 'cause I seem to recall it being a major sticking point with the Tea Party Movement.
You don't back up a ******* word and then turn around and demand empirical evidence? What's wrong with you? I remember the issue very well, it was a hot political one and I recall almost everyone saying it needed to be done to prevent an even worse collapse of the economy, which was on life support as it was.

You are welcome to believe anything you want but you made the case it put Trump to the left of Hillary. Did you forget your point?
If you recall, many, if not most Republicans, were against it. Especially the Tea Party types. Now he's pretending as if everyone just knew it had to be done, after the fact. Liar doesn't even begin to describe that SOB.
No, most Republicans were not against the bank bailout. That's why you mentioned the TEA party. When did Trump say everyone was against it? Liar doesn't begin to describe YOU.
 
Sure. I was a Cruz supporter as well but Ted is not running and now I have to deal with what the new reality is. To me, the SCOTUS pick is the #1issue and his list is solid.

His SCOTUS picks are certainly a step in the right direction. But is this him pandering to Conservatives or does he really mean it? Will he actually fight for his selected nominee or will he "negotiate" and end up picking someone not on this list? Whomever is nominated has to be approved by Congress and there are a LOT of liberals in Congress.

Trump worries me because he likes to be liked. So once he is elected, it's too late to change anything... he is going to govern as he pleases and that will likely be in a way that he will be liked by Congress. I don't really want my president to be liked by Congress... I want him to be a major pain in Congresses ass.
Well for someone who changes his mind twice a week he will be a pain A pain to the world But don't worry if the pos gets lucky enough to become pres it should only be 4 years of the pain And think of all the laughs we'll have
 
Sure. I was a Cruz supporter as well but Ted is not running and now I have to deal with what the new reality is. To me, the SCOTUS pick is the #1issue and his list is solid.

His SCOTUS picks are certainly a step in the right direction. But is this him pandering to Conservatives or does he really mean it? Will he actually fight for his selected nominee or will he "negotiate" and end up picking someone not on this list? Whomever is nominated has to be approved by Congress and there are a LOT of liberals in Congress.

Trump worries me because he likes to be liked. So once he is elected, it's too late to change anything... he is going to govern as he pleases and that will likely be in a way that he will be liked by Congress. I don't really want my president to be liked by Congress... I want him to be a major pain in Congresses ass.
"Major pain in Congress' ass", was that also your position during the Democratic President Obama with the largely Republican Congress?

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