OK, I'll admit it, our friends on the left are correct; there IS a catch to the Trump tax cuts

[francoHFW]

The biggest way big business wins is each different part of the US competing against every other part. The EU has basically banned this. It's said you can choose a tax rate system and you have to stick to it, otherwise big business will simply play divide and conquer.

Companies like Amazon will literally go around the country and say "who's willing to give us money for setting up shop here?" and they do. The jobs would stay in the US no matter what, however the money goes to Amazon when it shouldn't.

Imagine this.

You run a small business with a profit of $100,000 a year.

Then big business arrives in town, and you have competition. But the big business arrives without having to pay tax for five years. Their prices are lower than yours because they're not paying tax.

So your $100,000 drops because you have to drop prices down to the lowest level you can realistically afford to stay in business. This still isn't enough. Half your customers go shop at the large company. This means you're making no profit at all. The city is making less in taxers because you're paying half taxes you were paying before or less, and the other company isn't paying taxes at all.

Along the way other companies fail and yours will too. Meaning the larger company has taken all the customers by the end of the five year period, then renegotiates a nice sweet deal because they can't afford to see this company leave any more because it provides too many jobs.

How does this benefit anyone other than the rich?

Then big business arrives in town, and you have competition. But the big business arrives without having to pay tax for five years. Their prices are lower than yours because they're not paying tax.

Wait one minute.....are you saying lower taxes allow businesses to lower their prices?

Don't tell the liberals....

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business but don't see why the big tax cuts go to the rich and giant corporations that are bloated beyond all recognition by lack of taxes.

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business

That's so good to hear.
When was the last time Dems gave the middle class and small business a tax cut?

Obama gave the middle class a payroll tax cut in 2009 just as high a percentage as Trump's tax cuts and nothing for the bloated lying cheating GOP rich...

He extended the Bush tax cuts, so he didn't really gave any. Payroll tax cut you're talking about is actually d two percent cut on social security tax, where taxpayers paid 2% less while employer still paid full amount.

It was the middle of a gigantic GOP corrupt economic meltdown, a world depression and a depression for us if we hadn't spent 7 trillion dollars or more, dupe. That's no time for a tax hike on anyone. Yes that payroll tax cut is the same as the middle class will get with this stupid Trump giveaway to himself and the bloated rich. And the GOP kept the payroll tax from being extended...

 

[francoHFW]

Then big business arrives in town, and you have competition. But the big business arrives without having to pay tax for five years. Their prices are lower than yours because they're not paying tax.

Wait one minute.....are you saying lower taxes allow businesses to lower their prices?

Don't tell the liberals....

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business but don't see why the big tax cuts go to the rich and giant corporations that are bloated beyond all recognition by lack of taxes.

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business

That's so good to hear.
When was the last time Dems gave the middle class and small business a tax cut?

Obama gave the middle class a payroll tax cut in 2009 just as high a percentage as Trump's tax cuts and nothing for the bloated lying cheating GOP rich...

. Ok, so what was the result of that payroll tax cut ?? Did the citizens run out and start a business, create a college fund for their kids, hire a landscaper, get some repairs done on the house, buy a better car or what ? How many jobs did it create ? Did it just go POOF ?

The result is a claim that he gave tax cut. It did nothing but hurt social security. But in order to give that cut, he pushed inheritance and gift taxes back to 35%. It's a word game, nothing else.

Just like "he cut the deficit in half".

Yes he did, Dunce. But thanks for allowing 911 through sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever, and a corrupt World depression. No one in their right mind would vote for these chumps GOP... Brainwashed functional moron.

 

[francoHFW]

State and local taxes and fees are higher than they would be without the Republicans cutting federal aid to the states so they can give the rich a tax break. Everywhere.

the non Rich get all the tax breaks now. The mega rich and the giant corporations have been getting all the tax breaks 35 years and it has s never helped

Who should, in your own opinion, get the tax breaks and why?

The non rich should get all the tax breaks now until the damage of the last 35 years of GOP give away to the rich has ended.

You keep saying "last 35 years of GOP" like it means something.

OK, tell us how long in those 35 years GOP was not in power?

Democrats have been in control for 34 days or so. They passed the most important social reform of the last 50 years but the middle of a total meltdown is no time to mess with the economy. That's why we still have these giveaway to the rich and giant corporations tax rates and other policy. D u h.

 

[francoHFW]

You're an idiot because you think Trump didn't screw his creditors. You're also an idiot because you think I don't understand the difference between personal income and business income.

Creditors know the rick going into business. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.

Were you one of those creditors? If you're not... well, of course you're not... so why do you care if one rich guy screw another rich guy. How that, other than having satisfaction of saying "Trump bankrupted" (and he didn't), is affecting your little life?

He also screwed many of his employees and suppliers... A scumbag

And I should take your word for it.

Maybe you should try some real news outlets...

Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies | PolitiFact
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Claim: Says Donald Trump was "forced to file for bankruptcy not once, not twice, four times."
Claimed by: Carly Fiorina
Fact check by PolitiFact: Mostly True

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[francoHFW]

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

You don't put money back into the economy by giving it to government. They'll just waste it.

The government can just give it to people in the form of tax cuts to the middle class. You're grasping at straws.

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.

Why? That money was already taxed when it was created. Do you understand the term INCOME TAX? It means tax on income. Inheritance is not income.

If you GET money from inheritance, it is income, just exempted from tax. Don't be an idiot.

income? no it was already earned. Next you'll tax allowances.....omg.... get over, people earn their money and they can do what they want with it (with legality being the only point)

Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?

Well what do you think they do with it, have it in between their mattress and pull some out when they need it?

You mean poor people? They don't have it.

They don't, no shit, maybe because they work to get it, then leave it to their kids......what a concept!

The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

Who said it was?

Someone said Trump got rich by working.

I did, his dad loaned him some cash, he worked to increase his money and did even better than Clinton did (funny I never heard you guys complain about her cattle futures...it was all above board to you lefties!)!!!

I'll go with things that make it to a courtroom, not 25 years of BS about Clinton.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies | PolitiFact
PolitiFact › statements › sep › carly-fiorina
Claim: Says Donald Trump was "forced to file for bankruptcy not once, not twice, four times."
Claimed by: Carly Fiorina
Fact check by PolitiFact: Mostly True

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USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn't pay his bills
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Donald Trump's Bankruptcies - Snopes.com
Snopes › 2016/08/01 › donald-trumps-b...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

[

So once again, the liberals are trying to run the Presidency they didn't win through their liberal courts. It will slow things down, plug up the systems, and finally end up at the Supreme Court where they will tell Cuomo and others to go pound a salt bag.

Next time a Democrat President gets in, I hope the Republicans are there to take everything he or she does to court and do the same. This is getting ridiculous already, but I also understand Democrats hate our election system, system of government, and our country.

Not a chance.

If those suits were ever filed, which they won't be, they would be laughed out of court. Taxation is an explicit power of congress. The moron Maoists have no standing. Even our deep state federal courts will not entertain a mere temper tantrum.

Such an act is beyond frivolous and is patently absurd. No court will allow it.

I don't know, we've all seen that liberal courts don't care about the separation of powers, the Constitution, and laws that were passed years ago which gave Trump perfect legal authority to put in a travel ban.

It simply doesn't matter to them. What matters to them is they control everything no matter who wins an election. They actually believe that they own this country, and anybody outside of their circle are intruders.

 

[bgrouse]

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

You don't put money back into the economy by giving it to government. They'll just waste it.

The government can just give it to people in the form of tax cuts to the middle class. You're grasping at straws.

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.

Why? That money was already taxed when it was created. Do you understand the term INCOME TAX? It means tax on income. Inheritance is not income.

If you GET money from inheritance, it is income, just exempted from tax. Don't be an idiot.

Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?

Well what do you think they do with it, have it in between their mattress and pull some out when they need it?

You mean poor people? They don't have it.

The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

Who said it was?

Someone said Trump got rich by working.

income? no it was already earned. Next you'll tax allowances.....omg.... get over, people earn their money and they can do what they want with it (with legality being the only point)

Money becomes income when it changes hands. The fact that the person giving the money "earned" it or not does not make it not income.

From the IRS:

Generally, you include an amount in gross income for the tax year in which all events that fix your right to receive the income have occurred and you can determine the amount with reasonable accuracy. Under this rule, you report an amount in your gross income on the earliest of the following dates.

• When you receive payment.
• When the income amount is due to you.
• When you earn the income.
• When title passes.

As you can see, earning is just one way of getting income. The passing of title is also enough. You knuckle-dragging apes should be happy I'm giving you some life lessons for free.

They don't, no shit, maybe because they work to get it, then leave it to their kids......what a concept!

I did, his dad loaned him some cash, he worked to increase his money and did even better than Clinton did (funny I never heard you guys complain about her cattle futures...it was all above board to you lefties!)!!!

Why do stupid people bring up Clinton when their arguments fall apart? Did I ever say I supported Hillary Clinton?

 

[bgrouse]

That's not how the sentence is written. The sentence says it's a gain or recurrent benefit usually measured in money that derives from capital or labor. For usually to apply only to money and not to capital or labor, the sentence would have to be written with the following commas:
a gain or recurrent benefit, usually measured in money, that derives from capital or labor

Those commas are not there, so you are wrong.The government is what controls the money supply and enforces property rights. Without that, you'd see any wealth associated with the money go down the toilet.It should be taxed, yes.

Thank you for admitting that Comrade. All property should belong to the government.

You're an illiterate moron, which is why you keep attributing comments I never made to me. For example, here you imply that I said all (100%) of property should belong to the government, when all I said was it should be taxed (in response to a 33% tax question).

In a way, that's your goal, as proposed in Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto. You want now only 33%, but it's never enough, since rich are getting richer, right?

Why are you asking me? You're the one posting about communism, Lenin.

Let's see number one: "Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose." Isn't that what you lefties are living for? You can read rest of them on the link above. I'm not sure is Democrat platform written to mimic Communist Manifesto or National Socialist Platform of 1932.

Because that's what you lefties want. Redistribution of wealth, open borders, basic income, etc.

You're the one posting about "Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto" and "leftists." If you want to talk about your ideology, go ahead and start a thread about that.

Not sure what this has to do with our discussion. Like I said, I did not say what Trump did was illegal, just that he is a deadbeat. What does any of this have to do with whether or not I support bankruptcy law?

What exactly makes him a deadbeat?

I answered it already, and you quoted it. I guess you're dumb AND illiterate.

You said he's deadbeat, I asked what makes him a deadbeat.

It's a question I answered already, and you even quoted it. So why do you keep asking the same question? Didn't you take your medication?

That's not how the sentence is written. The sentence says it's a gain or recurrent benefit usually measured in money that derives from capital or labor. For usually to apply only to money and not to capital or labor, the sentence would have to be written with the following commas:
a gain or recurrent benefit, usually measured in money, that derives from capital or labor

Those commas are not there, so you are wrong.

He's not wrong. You are.

The problem is how to explain to leftist something that is self explanatory, when leftist wants it to mean something else.

Commas are not there because gain or recurrent benefit is usually measured in money.

Except the sentence doesn't end there, dumbass. It's usually measured in money that derives from capital or labor. Usually, but not always. It could also be measured in money that derives from unemployment compensation or alimony, as your average 1040 would tell you. Didn't your ESL teacher teach you to read the entire sentence? Sentences in the English language are made up of words. You have to read all of them, not just up to the point where you exhaust all of your mental abilities.

Next year, I'm sure she'll get into more complicated concepts like context.

Except, you cut the rest of my post that explains where you're wrong, soyboy.

The problem is your "explanation" required putting in a period where there was none in the original definition.

And what is unemployment compensation and alimony but payments that derived from capital or labor?

So people "work" for their alimony receipts? You're a moron!

You proved nothing, shitstain.

He's not wrong. You are.

The problem is how to explain to leftist something that is self explanatory, when leftist wants it to mean something else.

Commas are not there because gain or recurrent benefit is usually measured in money.

Usually. But not necessary. They can be measured in other values that derives from capital or labor.

If I were you, I would sit someplace in the corner where nobody can see me, and pull my ears over my face to hide shame from being THAT stupid.

But that's me. Knowing leftists, you are gonna continue posting here and prove to us over and over why you should go and sit in the corner with your ears pulled over your face.

I was trying to explain it to him but you know how the left is. It's like trying to talk to a brick wall.

I was trying to explain that "usually" is in reference to the type of compensation--not the word income. The words "capital" and "labor" are the reference to what income actually is. It has nothing to do with commas, it has to do with understanding what words mean. When he tries to Clintonize it in his response, you can try again, but I gave up.

You're dodging this question:

You can spin it any way you want. The bottom line is everyone else pays money on their income. It doesn't have to be from labor or investments. Line 10 on the 1040 lists income from "Taxable refunds, credits, or offsets of state and local income taxes." Line 11 is for Alimony. There's also Unemployment compensation. Are you going to tell me these are all either from investments or labor?

You earn unemployment benefits while you are working. So yes, that is income, you just didn't get paid for it until you filed.

Years ago I got laid off from a job and went to unemployment. They refused me because I worked so much I hardly took any time off of work. I did good work for the company so they paid me for all the sick days I never took, vacation, personal days, layoff compensation, and it amounted to 9 weeks of pay.

Of course I had to file that as income because I earned that pay while working. Unemployment seen it the same way. I have no idea what alimony is about.

And what about taxable refunds? You don't know what that's about, either? Christ! Why do I bother? If you don't know what alimony is, then you're far too stupid to discuss income taxation.

For your info, you're also supposed to report gambling winnings on line 21 (called "other income"). Is that from labor or capital?

Do you know what alimony is? Where does it come from?

Per the IRS:

Alimony is a payment to or for a spouse or former spouse under a divorce or separation instrument.

Says nothing about having to be from labor or capital.

How about if you go for a walk and find money on the sidewalk and pick it up?

Why would that be taxable?

I didn't ask you if it was taxable, I asked you if it was income. You're the expert on the definition of "income," right? You tell me. Is it income?

Is it derived from investment or working?

Finding money on the ground? No.

 

[bgrouse]

How about if you go for a walk and find money on the sidewalk and pick it up?

Why would that be taxable?

I didn't ask you if it was taxable, I asked you if it was income. You're the expert on the definition of "income," right? You tell me. Is it income?

No, legally it would be a capital gain.

Capital gains are income, you ******* idiot! It's right on line 13 of the 1040 in the "Income" section. Take a look, doofus!

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf

 

[OKTexas]

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business but don't see why the big tax cuts go to the rich and giant corporations that are bloated beyond all recognition by lack of taxes.

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business

That's so good to hear.
When was the last time Dems gave the middle class and small business a tax cut?

Obama gave the middle class a payroll tax cut in 2009 just as high a percentage as Trump's tax cuts and nothing for the bloated lying cheating GOP rich...

. Ok, so what was the result of that payroll tax cut ?? Did the citizens run out and start a business, create a college fund for their kids, hire a landscaper, get some repairs done on the house, buy a better car or what ? How many jobs did it create ? Did it just go POOF ?

The result is a claim that he gave tax cut. It did nothing but hurt social security. But in order to give that cut, he pushed inheritance and gift taxes back to 35%. It's a word game, nothing else.

Just like "he cut the deficit in half".

Yes he did, Dunce. But thanks for allowing 911 through sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever, and a corrupt World depression. No one in their right mind would vote for these chumps GOP... Brainwashed functional moron.

The same mindless chants over and over and over and over and over and over, yeah someone around here is a brainwashed functional moron, but it ain't us. LMAO


.

 

[bgrouse]

You actually have to work and make enough money to pay taxes to actually benefit.

That godam Trump and the evil republicans running the government **** the little guy at every turn...

Or, you have to be screwing the govt over, in order to be making an absolute killing out of it.

We still won't know how much the rich are playing in taxes before or after, the catch must be they were paying little before, and they'll be paying ******* nothing after. In fact the govt will pay them to be rich.

We know the top 1% pay 63% of all taxes. We know the top 5% pay 91%. We know the top 10% pay 99%

Yet you claim they don't pay their fair share.

What would be fair?

How can a republican talk about fair when the lying vile louse in our WH is screwing blue states with his BS tax cut ? NY for example pays THE MOST to our fed and gets little back We subsidize the gd red states and now the idiot screws us??? There will be law suits

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


.

The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

 

[OKTexas]

Or, you have to be screwing the govt over, in order to be making an absolute killing out of it.

We still won't know how much the rich are playing in taxes before or after, the catch must be they were paying little before, and they'll be paying ******* nothing after. In fact the govt will pay them to be rich.

We know the top 1% pay 63% of all taxes. We know the top 5% pay 91%. We know the top 10% pay 99%

Yet you claim they don't pay their fair share.

What would be fair?

How can a republican talk about fair when the lying vile louse in our WH is screwing blue states with his BS tax cut ? NY for example pays THE MOST to our fed and gets little back We subsidize the gd red states and now the idiot screws us??? There will be law suits

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


.

The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

Tissue?


.

 

[francoHFW]

Liberals are highly in favor of helping the middle class and small business

That's so good to hear.
When was the last time Dems gave the middle class and small business a tax cut?

Obama gave the middle class a payroll tax cut in 2009 just as high a percentage as Trump's tax cuts and nothing for the bloated lying cheating GOP rich...

. Ok, so what was the result of that payroll tax cut ?? Did the citizens run out and start a business, create a college fund for their kids, hire a landscaper, get some repairs done on the house, buy a better car or what ? How many jobs did it create ? Did it just go POOF ?

The result is a claim that he gave tax cut. It did nothing but hurt social security. But in order to give that cut, he pushed inheritance and gift taxes back to 35%. It's a word game, nothing else.

Just like "he cut the deficit in half".

Yes he did, Dunce. But thanks for allowing 911 through sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever, and a corrupt World depression. No one in their right mind would vote for these chumps GOP... Brainwashed functional moron.

The same mindless chants over and over and over and over and over and over, yeah someone around here is a brainwashed functional moron, but it ain't us. LMAO


.

Funny how the entire rest of the world is horrified by your giant lying b******* character assassination and hate propaganda machine. And in the whole world only you idiots deny global warming, your GOP giveaway to the rich tax cuts and rates, the fact that there was a world depression in 2008 only averted by 15 trillion dollars of bailouts and assistance in the modern world, etc etc. Then you have your countless idiotic phony scandals about the clintons and Obama and holder and other Democrats that have never been anywhere near a quart or a respectable news Outlet. You people are unbelievable and a disaster to boot.

 

[francoHFW]

We know the top 1% pay 63% of all taxes. We know the top 5% pay 91%. We know the top 10% pay 99%

Yet you claim they don't pay their fair share.

What would be fair?

How can a republican talk about fair when the lying vile louse in our WH is screwing blue states with his BS tax cut ? NY for example pays THE MOST to our fed and gets little back We subsidize the gd red states and now the idiot screws us??? There will be law suits

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


.

The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

Tissue?


.

What year are you planning an intelligent or truthful reply, super dupe?

 

[buckeye45_73]

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

You don't put money back into the economy by giving it to government. They'll just waste it.

The government can just give it to people in the form of tax cuts to the middle class. You're grasping at straws.

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.

Why? That money was already taxed when it was created. Do you understand the term INCOME TAX? It means tax on income. Inheritance is not income.

If you GET money from inheritance, it is income, just exempted from tax. Don't be an idiot.

Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?

Well what do you think they do with it, have it in between their mattress and pull some out when they need it?

You mean poor people? They don't have it.

The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

Who said it was?

Someone said Trump got rich by working.

income? no it was already earned. Next you'll tax allowances.....omg.... get over, people earn their money and they can do what they want with it (with legality being the only point)

Money becomes income when it changes hands. The fact that the person giving the money "earned" it or not does not make it not income.

From the IRS:

Generally, you include an amount in gross income for the tax year in which all events that fix your right to receive the income have occurred and you can determine the amount with reasonable accuracy. Under this rule, you report an amount in your gross income on the earliest of the following dates.

• When you receive payment.
• When the income amount is due to you.
• When you earn the income.
• When title passes.

As you can see, earning is just one way of getting income. The passing of title is also enough. You knuckle-dragging apes should be happy I'm giving you some life lessons for free.

Title? really was he a Duke? I don't recall Donald Trump's peerage.
You're such a dumbfuck.....income is not inheritance, no matter how you commies want to spin it.....income is earned money through working. In fact the democrats put in an inheritance tax(if it was income why have this tax?), which we correctly repealed
Sorry giving your son a few bucks does not subject it to tax nor should it. Same with donations and giving.....I DONATE(aka give with no strings) to a charity it should not be counted as income.......

They don't, no shit, maybe because they work to get it, then leave it to their kids......what a concept!

I did, his dad loaned him some cash, he worked to increase his money and did even better than Clinton did (funny I never heard you guys complain about her cattle futures...it was all above board to you lefties!)!!!

Why do stupid people bring up Clinton when their arguments fall apart? Did I ever say I supported Hillary Clinton?

You're the moron that supports their policies and ideas....and since almost everyone of those people had no issue with her investments...you're side has zero.....I mean zero right to ***** about anyone else.

OMG I love it when people like you ***** out with statements like that....who did you support Bernie? Jill Stein? do tell


just get your damn hands off of our money, earn it with your own labor, you ******* leech.

 

[buckeye45_73]

How can a republican talk about fair when the lying vile louse in our WH is screwing blue states with his BS tax cut ? NY for example pays THE MOST to our fed and gets little back We subsidize the gd red states and now the idiot screws us??? There will be law suits

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


.

The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

Tissue?


.

What year are you planning an intelligent or truthful reply, super dupe?

LOL, now this is rich........we'd give you one franco, if you ever gave us one......I haven't seen the ole pub crap line in a while.

 

[bgrouse]

They could get the money back into the economy by taxing the inheritance. Then they wouldn't have to worry about wasting goods and services on some good-for-nothing lazy rich deadbeat.

You don't put money back into the economy by giving it to government. They'll just waste it.

The government can just give it to people in the form of tax cuts to the middle class. You're grasping at straws.

They can, but it should be taxed like regular income at the very least.

Why? That money was already taxed when it was created. Do you understand the term INCOME TAX? It means tax on income. Inheritance is not income.

If you GET money from inheritance, it is income, just exempted from tax. Don't be an idiot.

Why can't everyone else pull themselves up by their bootstraps and "work" by investing their spare $10-20 million they have laying around?

Well what do you think they do with it, have it in between their mattress and pull some out when they need it?

You mean poor people? They don't have it.

The reality is that inheriting something is not "work."

Who said it was?

Someone said Trump got rich by working.

income? no it was already earned. Next you'll tax allowances.....omg.... get over, people earn their money and they can do what they want with it (with legality being the only point)

Money becomes income when it changes hands. The fact that the person giving the money "earned" it or not does not make it not income.

From the IRS:

Generally, you include an amount in gross income for the tax year in which all events that fix your right to receive the income have occurred and you can determine the amount with reasonable accuracy. Under this rule, you report an amount in your gross income on the earliest of the following dates.

• When you receive payment.
• When the income amount is due to you.
• When you earn the income.
• When title passes.

As you can see, earning is just one way of getting income. The passing of title is also enough. You knuckle-dragging apes should be happy I'm giving you some life lessons for free.

They don't, no shit, maybe because they work to get it, then leave it to their kids......what a concept!

I did, his dad loaned him some cash, he worked to increase his money and did even better than Clinton did (funny I never heard you guys complain about her cattle futures...it was all above board to you lefties!)!!!

Why do stupid people bring up Clinton when their arguments fall apart? Did I ever say I supported Hillary Clinton?

Title? really was he a Duke? I don't recall Donald Trump's peerage.

Title has nothing to do with being a Duke. It has to do with ownership as the IRS is using it. You'll find out about it when you buy a car, kid.

You're such a dumbfuck.....income is not inheritance, no matter how you commies want to spin it.....income is earned money through working.

You are totally retarded! The IRS even discusses earned and unearned income!

Earned Income | Internal Revenue Service

Examples of Income that are Not Earned Income:

• Pay received for work while an inmate in a penal institution
• Interest and dividends
• Retirement income
• Social security
• Unemployment benefits
• Alimony
• Child support.

In fact the democrats put in an inheritance tax(if it was income why have this tax?), which we correctly repealed
Sorry giving your son a few bucks does not subject it to tax nor should it. Same with donations and giving.....I DONATE(aka give with no strings) to a charity it should not be counted as income.......

You're the moron that supports their policies and ideas....and since almost everyone of those people had no issue with her investments...you're side has zero.....I mean zero right to ***** about anyone else.

OMG I love it when people like you ***** out with statements like that....who did you support Bernie? Jill Stein? do tell


just get your damn hands off of our money, earn it with your own labor, you ******* leech.

You're so ******* retarded you don't even know what income is and you're giving me advice? Thanks but no thanks!

 

[OKTexas]

Obama gave the middle class a payroll tax cut in 2009 just as high a percentage as Trump's tax cuts and nothing for the bloated lying cheating GOP rich...

. Ok, so what was the result of that payroll tax cut ?? Did the citizens run out and start a business, create a college fund for their kids, hire a landscaper, get some repairs done on the house, buy a better car or what ? How many jobs did it create ? Did it just go POOF ?

The result is a claim that he gave tax cut. It did nothing but hurt social security. But in order to give that cut, he pushed inheritance and gift taxes back to 35%. It's a word game, nothing else.

Just like "he cut the deficit in half".

Yes he did, Dunce. But thanks for allowing 911 through sheer incompetence, the stupidest Wars ever, and a corrupt World depression. No one in their right mind would vote for these chumps GOP... Brainwashed functional moron.

The same mindless chants over and over and over and over and over and over, yeah someone around here is a brainwashed functional moron, but it ain't us. LMAO


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Funny how the entire rest of the world is horrified by your giant lying b******* character assassination and hate propaganda machine. And in the whole world only you idiots deny global warming, your GOP giveaway to the rich tax cuts and rates, the fact that there was a world depression in 2008 only averted by 15 trillion dollars of bailouts and assistance in the modern world, etc etc. Then you have your countless idiotic phony scandals about the clintons and Obama and holder and other Democrats that have never been anywhere near a quart or a respectable news Outlet. You people are unbelievable and a disaster to boot.

Yeah, the rest of the world are so horrified most of them want to move here. And why do you keep deflecting to the *****, you have nothing to win on there either.


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[OKTexas]

How can a republican talk about fair when the lying vile louse in our WH is screwing blue states with his BS tax cut ? NY for example pays THE MOST to our fed and gets little back We subsidize the gd red states and now the idiot screws us??? There will be law suits

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


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The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

Tissue?


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What year are you planning an intelligent or truthful reply, super dupe?

The year I have something intelligent and truthful to reply to. Brainwashed almost functional moron.


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[eddiew37]

Sue away, you'll lose. Congress giveth deductions, they can take them away.


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The people who cry the most about needing higher taxes are the ones who cry the most when it's they who are paying them.

The economy works because of people who work. The people who assemble your car, butcher your cattle, prepare your meal, etc... The super poor and the super rich are often the moochers who don't do any of that. The super poor through welfare and the rich through inheritance. Although Trump got a lot through the government, too.

Tissue?


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What year are you planning an intelligent or truthful reply, super dupe?

The year I have something intelligent and truthful to reply to. Brainwashed almost functional moron.


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And you a trumpette calling others brainwashed and a moron??