Official USMB Shutdown Showdown Thread --- Week of Jan 14th, 2019

[g5000]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

Congress writes the budget. Where is the budget? All the more urgent that Nancy and Schumer do their jobs now and write a budget which includes the needed funding for the wall that Trump was elected to build and ran on! Quit holding up the nation, Democrats!

Pelosi has already passed two funding bills which were passed by the Republican Senate in December.

The ball is in McConnell's court, dipshit. He is holding up those two bills WHICH HIS SENATE ALREADY PASSED ONCE BEFORE.

McConnell won't let those two bills come to the floor for a vote, because he knows they will pass.

Trump and McConnell are the holdup.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

The House Democrats have met their constitutional obligation.

No, they have not. That's the partisan hack answer. Their obligation, as is the Senate's obligation, as is the president's obligation, is to work together to reach a compromise and end the impasse. The president wants $5 billion for a wall; the Democrats want nothing. Nobody is willing to budge. Mature adults would meet halfway, but that's not what we have in D.C. I don't support a wall either, but to cause all of this drama over pure partisan politics is irresponsible on everybody's part.

 

[g5000]

Here is the order of events:

1. Republican Senate passes spending bill on December 18. It will next proceed to the Republican House.

2. Deficit Donald announces he will sign the bill when it gets to his desk.

3. Mr. Coulter and Drug Addled Rush pitch a fit.

4. Deficit Donald announces he will not sign the bill. It is then spiked in the Republican House.

5. The new Congress is sworn in.

6. The new Democratic House passes the spending bill which had been passed by the Republican Senate.

7. Mitch McConnell refuses to bring the exact same spending bill his Republican Senate passed before to the floor for a vote by the new Senate, because he knows it will pass.

 

[toobfreak]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

Congress writes the budget. Where is the budget? All the more urgent that Nancy and Schumer do their jobs now and write a budget which includes the needed funding for the wall that Trump was elected to build and ran on! Quit holding up the nation, Democrats!

Pelosi has already passed two funding bills which were passed by the Republican Senate in December.

The ball is in McConnell's court, dipshit. He is holding up those two bills WHICH HIS SENATE ALREADY PASSED ONCE BEFORE.

McConnell won't let those two bills come to the floor for a vote, because he knows they will pass.

Trump and McConnell are the holdup.

So is that why Nancy is saying she won't give more than a dollar to fund the wall because it's immoral? Because they already have the budget to fund it? You gotta 'splain that one.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

The House Democrats have met their constitutional obligation.

nope, they haven't negotiated a budget. why not? they know the president isn't going to sign unless 5.7B is in there. what else are they gonna do? Just tell the citizens fk you we ain't giving that man money so fk you all? how mature.

They're obliged to fund the govt. They've passed spending bills that do just that.

They are not obliged to give a president what they want.

trump hasn't seen one of them. all the dems need to do is add 5.7B into the house bill, and 7 dems vote for it and send it back to the house for another vote. as long as the pres hasn't seen a bill, it isn't on him.

It's on McConnell. He's got a bill.

 

[g5000]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

Congress writes the budget. Where is the budget? All the more urgent that Nancy and Schumer do their jobs now and write a budget which includes the needed funding for the wall that Trump was elected to build and ran on! Quit holding up the nation, Democrats!

Pelosi has already passed two funding bills which were passed by the Republican Senate in December.

The ball is in McConnell's court, dipshit. He is holding up those two bills WHICH HIS SENATE ALREADY PASSED ONCE BEFORE.

McConnell won't let those two bills come to the floor for a vote, because he knows they will pass.

Trump and McConnell are the holdup.

So is that why Nancy is saying she won't give more than a dollar to fund the wall because it's immoral? Because they already have the budget to fund it? You gotta 'splain that one.

See post 23.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

...and....

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

We would not have the problem we have today if trump had signed the CR and allowed for a debate in the Congress as to the means and costs to provide a more secure border.

That is the way the system was designed, trump tossed a monkey wrench into that mechanism.

If trump isn't an agent for Russia and not seeking to create chaos for Putin, he doing a damn good job in doing so without intention.

 

[toobfreak]

Here is the order of events:

1. Republican Senate passes spending bill on December 18. It will next proceed to the Republican House.

2. Deficit Donald announces he will sign the bill when it gets to his desk.

3. Mr. Coulter and Drug Addled Rush pitch a fit.

4. Deficit Donald announces he will not sign the bill. It is then spiked in the Republican House.

5. The new Congress is sworn in.

6. The new Democratic House passes the spending bill which had been passed by the Republican Senate.

7. Mitch McConnell refuses to bring the exact same spending bill his Republican Senate passed before to the floor for a vote by the new Senate, because he knows it will pass.

I see. So now Rush Limbaugh runs the USA? And Ann Coulter is his First Lady? How can Trump be their puppet when Putin was first in line? That's going to make Vladimir very mad.

 

[g5000]

McConnell is sitting on a bill he just passed in December.

Deficit Donald was all set to sign it. But then Mr. Coulter and Addict Rush pitched a fit about the wall funding not being high enough.

So now McConnell is sitting on the very same bill he was all for just a month ago.

 

[August West]

Supreme court Justice Kavanaugh is stepping up to the plate to pay for the Klan`s wall.
Kavanaugh Offers to Pay for Wall by Recycling His Empties

 

[Claudette]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

...and....

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

Yeah and they don't care about the billions the illegals cost we tax payers every year either.

 

[g5000]

Here is the order of events:

1. Republican Senate passes spending bill on December 18. It will next proceed to the Republican House.

2. Deficit Donald announces he will sign the bill when it gets to his desk.

3. Mr. Coulter and Drug Addled Rush pitch a fit.

4. Deficit Donald announces he will not sign the bill. It is then spiked in the Republican House.

5. The new Congress is sworn in.

6. The new Democratic House passes the spending bill which had been passed by the Republican Senate.

7. Mitch McConnell refuses to bring the exact same spending bill his Republican Senate passed before to the floor for a vote by the new Senate, because he knows it will pass.

I see. So now Rush Limbaugh runs the USA? And Ann Coulter is his First Lady? How can Trump be their puppet when Putin was first in line? That's going to make Vladimir very mad.

Yep, Addict Rush and Mr. Coulter are bossing Deficit Donald around.

Exactly.

KGB Putin bosses his puppet around on foreign affairs.

All caught up now?

 

[bodecea]

"....according to an official who asked not to be named."

Well, was that nothingburger that tiny trump was serving the Clemson Team?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

The House Democrats have met their constitutional obligation.

No, they have not. That's the partisan hack answer. Their obligation, as is the Senate's obligation, as is the president's obligation, is to work together to reach a compromise and end the impasse. The president wants $5 billion for a wall; the Democrats want nothing. Nobody is willing to budge. Mature adults would meet halfway, but that's not what we have in D.C. I don't support a wall either, but to cause all of this drama over pure partisan politics is irresponsible on everybody's part.

The president and the Senate are not obliged to shut the govt down over funding requests, dope.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

...and....

Conservatives are conflicted. One commented that it has to be a lie because the official is anonymous, and the other said it just doesn’t matter.

And you give a shit...why?
Would it be because Trump is in the white house?

Trump's behavior as POTUS is the issue, the facts which seem to go way beyond your level of comprehension are these:

• He is a narcissist
• He is a megalomaniac
• He is an autocrat
• He is not intelligent
• He has zero empathy
• He is a damn liar

I can go on, but the facts on display every day sustain each one of these allegations.

 

[toobfreak]

Here is the order of events:

1. Republican Senate passes spending bill on December 18. It will next proceed to the Republican House.

2. Deficit Donald announces he will sign the bill when it gets to his desk.

3. Mr. Coulter and Drug Addled Rush pitch a fit.

4. Deficit Donald announces he will not sign the bill. It is then spiked in the Republican House.

5. The new Congress is sworn in.

6. The new Democratic House passes the spending bill which had been passed by the Republican Senate.

7. Mitch McConnell refuses to bring the exact same spending bill his Republican Senate passed before to the floor for a vote by the new Senate, because he knows it will pass.

I see. So now Rush Limbaugh runs the USA? And Ann Coulter is his First Lady? How can Trump be their puppet when Putin was first in line? That's going to make Vladimir very mad.

Yep, Addict Rush and Mr. Coulter are bossing Deficit Donald around.

Exactly.

KGB Putin bosses his puppet around on foreign affairs.

All caught up now?

That makes it a lot easier to take then knowing that Rush is behind the shutdown. Him and Ann are the Left's green kryptonite.

 

[jc456]

why not fund the wall and call it a day? you didn't care when billions went to other countries for support. why now? oh yeah TDS. keep it shutdown until the 5.7B makes it on a budget. we're cool with the government staying shutdown. are you? at some point someone will need to blink and it won't be trump.

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

The House Democrats have met their constitutional obligation.

nope, they haven't negotiated a budget. why not? they know the president isn't going to sign unless 5.7B is in there. what else are they gonna do? Just tell the citizens fk you we ain't giving that man money so fk you all? how mature.

They're obliged to fund the govt. They've passed spending bills that do just that.

They are not obliged to give a president what they want.

trump hasn't seen one of them. all the dems need to do is add 5.7B into the house bill, and 7 dems vote for it and send it back to the house for another vote. as long as the pres hasn't seen a bill, it isn't on him.

McConnell said he won’t introduce any bill that Trump isn’t willing to sign.

why are the dems holding the country hostage then? why don't they agree to the 5.7B and get the government open? It was what he was elected to do get done. why do pelosi and crying chuck wishing to go against the will of the people and making other people suffer?

 

[bodecea]

The estimate was not intended to become public. It was just leaked.
Their previous estimate was 0.1% every two weeks.

"The Trump administration now estimates that the cost of the government shutdown will be twice as steep as originally forecast.
The original estimate that the partial shutdown would subtract 0.1 percentage point from growth every two weeks has now been doubled to a 0.1 percentage point subtraction every week, according to an official who asked not to be named."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/source-white-house-believes-shutdown-will-be-twice-as-costly.html‬

Congress writes the budget. Where is the budget? All the more urgent that Nancy and Schumer do their jobs now and write a budget which includes the needed funding for the wall that Trump was elected to build and ran on! Quit holding up the nation, Democrats!

Pelosi has already passed two funding bills which were passed by the Republican Senate in December.

The ball is in McConnell's court, dipshit. He is holding up those two bills WHICH HIS SENATE ALREADY PASSED ONCE BEFORE.

McConnell won't let those two bills come to the floor for a vote, because he knows they will pass.

Trump and McConnell are the holdup.

Is McConnell as proud as tiny trump over this Shutdown?

 

[jc456]

BTW, the dems know what it will take to reopen the government and are doing nothing. and you don't care. it seems you don't care others are not getting paid.

The House Democrats have met their constitutional obligation.

No, they have not. That's the partisan hack answer. Their obligation, as is the Senate's obligation, as is the president's obligation, is to work together to reach a compromise and end the impasse. The president wants $5 billion for a wall; the Democrats want nothing. Nobody is willing to budge. Mature adults would meet halfway, but that's not what we have in D.C. I don't support a wall either, but to cause all of this drama over pure partisan politics is irresponsible on everybody's part.

the one thing, and for me the only thing, both Pelosi and crying chuck were ok with a wall in 2014. The mere fact that they won't fund it today is pure partisan and Trump knows it. that my friend is really the shameful piece.

 

[g5000]

The House Democrats have met their constitutional obligation.

nope, they haven't negotiated a budget. why not? they know the president isn't going to sign unless 5.7B is in there. what else are they gonna do? Just tell the citizens fk you we ain't giving that man money so fk you all? how mature.

They're obliged to fund the govt. They've passed spending bills that do just that.

They are not obliged to give a president what they want.

trump hasn't seen one of them. all the dems need to do is add 5.7B into the house bill, and 7 dems vote for it and send it back to the house for another vote. as long as the pres hasn't seen a bill, it isn't on him.

McConnell said he won’t introduce any bill that Trump isn’t willing to sign.

why are the dems holding the country hostage then? why don't they agree to the 5.7B and get the government open? It was what he was elected to do get done. why do pelosi and crying chuck wishing to go against the will of the people and making other people suffer?

McConnell and Trump are the ones holding the country hostage.

The ball is in their court, and McConnell is hiding the ball up his ass.

See post 23.