Obstruction / If he was innocent he would testify...

Because he did not do a thing that caused Trump to abuse his power.... Trump needs a real defense... this isn't a joke or something he should play around with.

Maybe Mulveney can show orders given on real corruption concerns....? I do not know..... but he needs some real defense,

though McConnell already broadcasted the FIX WAS IN to acquit him....
The fix was in when not a single person witnessed an abuse of power.

Since there is no witness to, evidence of, or victim of any abuse of power it's a hard sell to expect someone to believe he's guilty.
Sonland did.

And you can't make the claiming of no first hand witnesses IF THE PRESIDENT is the one preventing witnesses and documents from being turned over, plus they have Mulveney's presser, and Trump's presser, where they admitted it.
Sondland "felt like" it was wrong. He testified that he did not witness Trump do anything wrong.

In America, the courts handle Executive Privilege claims that Congress disagrees with.

In Fascistville, Democrats try to remove an elected President for taking their witness requests to the courts, as is every POTUS's Constitutional right.

Also in America, Congress needs evidence of wrongdoing before subpoenaing people left and right.

There was never any evidence of wrongdoing. Just like Russian Collusion.
There is plenty of circumstantial evidence, which you can convict on, in criminal court

AND the ONLY REASON there is not first hand documents and witnesses, is because the President has illegally directed his people to not comply with subpoenas at all.... That puts the President ABOVE the law, where he could direct the evidence on HIMSELF from ever reaching congress who has constitution power of oversize over the executive branch and authorities


AND THAT is precisely what our founders in writing the Constitution, and impeachment clause, was trying to prevent.
Wrong. The Constitution clearly provides for the judiciary to settle disputes between the Executive and Legislative branches.

Nazi Pelousy ignored the Constitution and produced a farce instead.
Not political disputes, they try to stay away from those....

We already have precedent from the SC from the Nixon impeachment hearings, there is no thing as ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY for the President or his admin.

Even executive privilege can be stopped for those involved in the impeachment From testifying , or privileged tapes from being turned over, of the President's......

The court suits by TRUMPs was simply to delay and obfuscate.
 
Last edited:
Anything the Bidens have done is irrelevant to the charges against Trump. If a subpoena is ever issued Biden will show up. He's just goading the hypocrites who think it's just fine for Trump to refuse to let his henchmen testify.

When did he tell you this?
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
 
Anything the Bidens have done is irrelevant to the charges against Trump. If a subpoena is ever issued Biden will show up. He's just goading the hypocrites who think it's just fine for Trump to refuse to let his henchmen testify.

When did he tell you this?
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.
 
If he had nothing to hide, if he did nothing wrong, if he was innocent he would VOLUNTEER - or even demand - to testify under oath....

Refusing to comply with a Congressional subpoena makes him GUILTY of OBSTRUCTION!

This is what the Democrats and snowflakes have declared about President Trump...

...And once again the Democrats are demonstrating their un-matched, record-setting hypocrisy / double standard:


'No Show Joe:
Biden says he won’t comply with any Senate subpoena for Trump impeachment trial'

"Former Vice President Joe Biden said Friday that he would not comply with a subpoena to testify in the Senate impeachment trial against President Trump, should one be issued to him."

That's ok, Joe. Your appearance before the Senate to testify under oath isn't really needed and would just be a waste of time - we already have your video-taped confession of extorting the former Ukraine PM...

...and we have the transcript of your confession, confirming you publicly confessed to the crime...

No explanation / testimony under oath needed - they speak for themselves as evidence...

...and, according to the Liberal Progressive Socialist Democrat's fundamental rule regarding 'Justice', you are GUILTY until PROVEN innocent.



Biden says he won't comply with Senate subpoena in Trump's impeachment trial
Joe is right, he will not be forced to testify and the press will say nothing about it or anything about his son's corruption.

And he will probably win the DNC nomination with at least half the country supporting him like we saw with how corrupt Hilary was and still won.

Checks and balances are dead.
 
Anything the Bidens have done is irrelevant to the charges against Trump. If a subpoena is ever issued Biden will show up. He's just goading the hypocrites who think it's just fine for Trump to refuse to let his henchmen testify.

When did he tell you this?
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
 
Anything the Bidens have done is irrelevant to the charges against Trump. If a subpoena is ever issued Biden will show up. He's just goading the hypocrites who think it's just fine for Trump to refuse to let his henchmen testify.

When did he tell you this?
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
I've had 30 years of watching him and his character.....

He's not a man of lawlessness as Trump has been his whole life.

I am not a supporter of Biden in his presidential run, nor was I in any of his tries for the presidency,

But, that does not mean I can't see what is going on here with Trump and his campaign lawyer, Giuliani and the horse shit they've been illegally pulling to try to smear the guy for TRUMPs campaign benefit.
 
When did he tell you this?
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
I've had 30 years of watching him and his character.....

He's not a man of lawlessness as Trump has been his whole life.

I am not a supporter of Biden in his presidential run, nor was I in any of his tries for the presidency,

But, that does not mean I can't see what is going on here with Trump and his campaign lawyer, Giuliani and the horse shit they've been illegally pulling to try to smear the guy for TRUMPs campaign benefit.

Would you support Biden if he defied a subpoena?
 
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
I've had 30 years of watching him and his character.....

He's not a man of lawlessness as Trump has been his whole life.

I am not a supporter of Biden in his presidential run, nor was I in any of his tries for the presidency,

But, that does not mean I can't see what is going on here with Trump and his campaign lawyer, Giuliani and the horse shit they've been illegally pulling to try to smear the guy for TRUMPs campaign benefit.

Would you support Biden if he defied a subpoena?
I would support Howdy Doody to get rid of this scum ,this pos in our WH now I'd even accept GWB back if it were all possible Trump is a GD disaster home here in America, and in foreign lands
 
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
I've had 30 years of watching him and his character.....

He's not a man of lawlessness as Trump has been his whole life.

I am not a supporter of Biden in his presidential run, nor was I in any of his tries for the presidency,

But, that does not mean I can't see what is going on here with Trump and his campaign lawyer, Giuliani and the horse shit they've been illegally pulling to try to smear the guy for TRUMPs campaign benefit.

Would you support Biden if he defied a subpoena?
No, I would not support him if he defied the law!!!!

But again, he just would not do that..... :D
 
When did he tell you this?
Because Biden is not a man of lawlessness, as Trump....

If he were subpoenaed, which he won't be because he is irrelevant to the case, but if he were subpoenaed, he would honor it, again... unlike Trump.
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
I've had 30 years of watching him and his character.....

He's not a man of lawlessness as Trump has been his whole life.

I am not a supporter of Biden in his presidential run, nor was I in any of his tries for the presidency,

But, that does not mean I can't see what is going on here with Trump and his campaign lawyer, Giuliani and the horse shit they've been illegally pulling to try to smear the guy for TRUMPs campaign benefit.
He is a corrupt fuckwit.
 
First he said he would not, then he tried to backtrack on that and said he would honor what they "legitimately" demanded. IOW, he won't honor it.

Wasn't it fun that he said he wouldn't almost as soon as you insisted he would?
He would honor a subpoena..... if he were subpoenaed, but he won't be, in Trump's trial, because he knows nothing on Trump`s charges...... Nothing on Trump using his position to solicit foreign help for his campaign and nothing about the military aid or DC Whitehouse meeting held back until the Ukraine President made a public announcement on investigating Bidens was made,

And knows nothing on Trump's illegal claims of Absolute immunity for himself and all of the administration etc. So to DENY ALL EVIDENCE from coming forward on his wrong doings, obstructing congress....

So, there is no purpose, other than once again, Trump`s own political personal gain.

You know that, I know that, everyone knows that, so please stop your joshing.

It is against the law to use gvt power for your own personal benefit.... it is Self Dealing, gov't corruption at its very core.

The bottom line remains, Biden flat out said he would defy a subpoena, then walked it part way back when he realized how it looked, and still left himself room to defy it anyway. Your certainty that he would honor such is misplaced.
I've had 30 years of watching him and his character.....

He's not a man of lawlessness as Trump has been his whole life.

I am not a supporter of Biden in his presidential run, nor was I in any of his tries for the presidency,

But, that does not mean I can't see what is going on here with Trump and his campaign lawyer, Giuliani and the horse shit they've been illegally pulling to try to smear the guy for TRUMPs campaign benefit.

Would you support Biden if he defied a subpoena?
No, I would not support him if he defied the law!!!!

But again, he just would not do that..... :D
I do not believe that. He's a politician, and if he thought he could get away with it, I believe he would have no problem breaking any law he thought he had to.
 

Forum List

Back
Top