Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[Asclepias]

That wasnt advise. It was a statement of an observation. I never claimed you bullied anyone or post threads about your personal life.

Well then what ARE you saying? Why are you so caught up in my personal opinion about obese people instead of the actual problems that they are causing?

Because the article in your OP nor your title have anything to do with the cost of obesity. I am saying people that have the same irrational opinion you have that someone should not feel good about their self image if they are obese is a problem.

And you say that thin girls should consider themselves "pre teen boys with breasts." Correct?

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

 

[ChrisL]

Since you are accusing me of being bully, want to tell me who I am bullying here? Giving my general opinion on a legitimate problem and how I feel about it is not "bullying" any one person. That is just a general opinion given on a discussion board. Not meant to cause anyone "low" self esteem but just sharing my honest opinion on the matter. If someone took it personally, I apologize.

I never accused you of being a bully. I said people "like you", people that feel it necessary to say someone is unattractive are the types of people that cause low self esteem. I didnt take it personally. Its just an observation.

YOU have said that you find certain types of body styles unattractive. Should I take all of your comments about "thin" people personally and be hurt?

I never claimed that my personal tastes should be what everyone follows but the point is taken.

And neither have I. I simply stated the facts and included my opinion on obese people. It was not directed at anyone in particular. Just a general observation on my part.

No. You said that people should not accept their body type or something to that effect. Do I need to post it for you?

I said people should not glamorize obesity as if it is acceptable. It is unhealthy and more unhealthy than smoking. THAT is a fact. No, unhealthy is not an attractive attribute. Sorry.

 

[Coyote]

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

I agree that anorexic looking models are not healthy and I've even begun to notice some male models being excessively skinny, but when the average waist size of the American male is 38 inches we've got a problem.

No one is denying we have a problem, I totally agree. But shaming and degrading people is not the answer.

 

[ChrisL]

Well then what ARE you saying? Why are you so caught up in my personal opinion about obese people instead of the actual problems that they are causing?

Because the article in your OP nor your title have anything to do with the cost of obesity. I am saying people that have the same irrational opinion you have that someone should not feel good about their self image if they are obese is a problem.

And you say that thin girls should consider themselves "pre teen boys with breasts." Correct?

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

 

[Asclepias]

Its not at all attractive for a grown woman to look like preteen male with boobs. A big butt stores excess fat and nutrition for child bearing and protects me from hip bone injuries.

Okay. What did you say here again? You expressed your personal opinion on what you find attractive. Should a thin woman feel slighted by this comment?

Only if I said all women not fitting this description had no right to have self esteem.

 

[ChrisL]

Is that your advice to people who are bullied in real life or online? I'm sorry, but I don't bully anyone. I don't talk about people's personal lives that I don't know. I make comments that are related to topics of discussion, perhaps the person started the topic. I also do not post threads about my personal life.

That wasnt advise. It was a statement of an observation. I never claimed you bullied anyone or post threads about your personal life.

Well then what ARE you saying? Why are you so caught up in my personal opinion about obese people instead of the actual problems that they are causing?

Because the article in your OP nor your title have anything to do with the cost of obesity. I am saying people that have the same irrational opinion you have that someone should not feel good about their self image if they are obese is a problem.

What does that have to do with anything? I have posted the costs of obesity. I do find it unattractive.

You don't have any problems stating that you find certain bodies or people to be unattractive. Why is it okay for you to say what you find unattractive and not me?

Its not a problem that you find it unattractive. The problem comes in when you insist someone feel bad about it instead of having a positive self image.

I didn't insist that they do anything. I am simply stating MY opinions on the matter. Just like you do on other matters and this one. I'm sorry, there is no difference and I am not a "bad person" for expressing my opinions on any subject matter.

 

[Asclepias]

Because the article in your OP nor your title have anything to do with the cost of obesity. I am saying people that have the same irrational opinion you have that someone should not feel good about their self image if they are obese is a problem.

And you say that thin girls should consider themselves "pre teen boys with breasts." Correct?

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

 

[ChrisL]

And you say that thin girls should consider themselves "pre teen boys with breasts." Correct?

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

 

[ChrisL]

And you say that thin girls should consider themselves "pre teen boys with breasts." Correct?

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

Look, the difference is, I didn't and do not take "offense" to your particular personal preferences, nor the fact that you express those opinions regularly on this board. Why do you find it so offensive when I express mine? That is the million dollar question. I'm sorry, but my behavior is MUCH better than most of the others who post here.

 

[Iron Head]

My friends have told me that I should report you to the police NOW in case you try to find things out or do something else weird. THAT is how you come across to normal people. My friends are WORRIED about my safety.

Total bullshit. You don't have any friends!

 

[Coyote]

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

 

[Coyote]

Its not at all attractive for a grown woman to look like preteen male with boobs. A big butt stores excess fat and nutrition for child bearing and protects me from hip bone injuries.

Okay. What did you say here again? You expressed your personal opinion on what you find attractive. Should a thin woman feel slighted by this comment?

Only if I said all women not fitting this description had no right to have self esteem.

That.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

I agree that anorexic looking models are not healthy and I've even begun to notice some male models being excessively skinny, but when the average waist size of the American male is 38 inches we've got a problem.

No one is denying we have a problem, I totally agree. But shaming and degrading people is not the answer.

In some cases I think it does help. Like if it's a behaviour and not your body type. A behaviour can change instantly, can't do a lot about your weight while somoene with nothing to pride themselves on is debasing you for some applause to fill that hollow void.

Don't see a lot of spanking any more is an example of when public shaming and ridicule can help change a behaviour. Actually think we're suffering more without it than with it, but as an example it's valid. Loud radios too are another. Public pressure can and has help ed reduce certain behaviours. But nothing's being helped fat shaming since often people who get heavy are eating as a means of coping with dtress. Ridicule them you stress them out and they just do more of how they cope. Just making it worse then.

I gotta say I'm really surprised Chris has this kind of insensitivity and willingness to hurt other people over this kind of thing. Changed my impression of her that's for sure.

 

[ChrisL]

My friends have told me that I should report you to the police NOW in case you try to find things out or do something else weird. THAT is how you come across to normal people. My friends are WORRIED about my safety.

Total bullshit. You don't have any friends!

Of course I do. You may wish that I didn't, but in the real world, I actually do. Lol. I have a couple/few friends here that I've known for years who are concerned about my safety regarding you and your obsessive hatred. That is just a fact.

 

[ChrisL]

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

I agree that anorexic looking models are not healthy and I've even begun to notice some male models being excessively skinny, but when the average waist size of the American male is 38 inches we've got a problem.

No one is denying we have a problem, I totally agree. But shaming and degrading people is not the answer.

In some cases I think it does help. Like if it's a behaviour and not your body type. A behaviour can change instantly, can't do a lot about your weight while somoene with nothing to pride themselves on is debasing you for some applause to fill that hollow void.

Don't see a lot of spanking any more is an example of when public shaming and ridicule can help change a behaviour. Actually think we're suffering more without it than with it, but as an example it's valid. Loud radios too are another. Public pressure can and has help ed reduce certain behaviours. But nothing's being helped fat shaming since often people who get heavy are eating as a means of coping with dtress. Ridicule them you stress them out and they just do more of how they cope. Just making it worse then.

I gotta say I'm really surprised Chris has this kind of insensitivity and willingness to hurt other people over this kind of thing. Changed my impression of her that's for sure.

I don't see how my general statements of my personal opinions and preferences should hurt anyone. Everyone else does it too, correct?

 

[ChrisL]

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

The statistics speak for themselves. Go look at them.

 

[Asclepias]

That wasnt advise. It was a statement of an observation. I never claimed you bullied anyone or post threads about your personal life.

Well then what ARE you saying? Why are you so caught up in my personal opinion about obese people instead of the actual problems that they are causing?

Because the article in your OP nor your title have anything to do with the cost of obesity. I am saying people that have the same irrational opinion you have that someone should not feel good about their self image if they are obese is a problem.

What does that have to do with anything? I have posted the costs of obesity. I do find it unattractive.

You don't have any problems stating that you find certain bodies or people to be unattractive. Why is it okay for you to say what you find unattractive and not me?

Its not a problem that you find it unattractive. The problem comes in when you insist someone feel bad about it instead of having a positive self image.

I didn't insist that they do anything. I am simply stating MY opinions on the matter. Just like you do on other matters and this one. I'm sorry, there is no difference and I am not a "bad person" for expressing my opinions on any subject matter.

Actually you did. When I asked you if obese children should not feel empowered this is the reply you gave me...

"Yes because it is not healthy and they are risking their health. Do you applaud smoking? Should smokers feel empowered?"

 

[ChrisL]

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

Aren't you supposed to be keeping people on topic here? Aren't you a moderator? What is your job here in this thread? To encourage personal attacks against members or to discourage them?

 

[Asclepias]

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

 

[ChrisL]

For a long time, the fashion statement has been (and still is) an unhealthy skinnyness that goes hand in hand with anorexia. Seeing more full figured women out there is a good thing.

I agree that anorexic looking models are not healthy and I've even begun to notice some male models being excessively skinny, but when the average waist size of the American male is 38 inches we've got a problem.

No one is denying we have a problem, I totally agree. But shaming and degrading people is not the answer.

In some cases I think it does help. Like if it's a behaviour and not your body type. A behaviour can change instantly, can't do a lot about your weight while somoene with nothing to pride themselves on is debasing you for some applause to fill that hollow void.

Don't see a lot of spanking any more is an example of when public shaming and ridicule can help change a behaviour. Actually think we're suffering more without it than with it, but as an example it's valid. Loud radios too are another. Public pressure can and has help ed reduce certain behaviours. But nothing's being helped fat shaming since often people who get heavy are eating as a means of coping with dtress. Ridicule them you stress them out and they just do more of how they cope. Just making it worse then.

I gotta say I'm really surprised Chris has this kind of insensitivity and willingness to hurt other people over this kind of thing. Changed my impression of her that's for sure.

So tell me. What is the difference between my expressing my personal opinions on beauty and what is attractive and someone else doing it? Do you not post pictures of women (and men) that you find attractive and state when you find something unattractive?