Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[ChrisL]

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

And I think obesity is not beautiful and not okay. Sorry, there is no difference. I am saying that society should not accept obesity because it is unhealthy and mostly due to bad unhealthy habits. That is a fact. It is no better than smoking.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

Lol. WHO do you think you are fooling with this sudden "Mr. Sensitive" routine? I've read many of your posts.

 

[Iron Head]

Let's just put it this way. Men are not a problem for me. I've always been able to get any man I've wanted. Never had a problem in that area.

anyone can find someone to sleep with.

and i've generally found that people who grandstand about stuff like that on the internets are full of it.

but if you need that. it's all good.

I agree that people, in RL or on the internet, who make a big deal of how wonderful they are, whether it's looks or something else, usually have issues about that very thing. If you have to tell people you are attractive and make it a big issue, something seems very false about it.

I'm just defending myself against a weirdo on the internet who is obsessed with my appearance, where I live, how I live my life. I don't really know what your issue is with that. If you have a problem with that and think that it means something other than defending myself against . . . . some ridiculous internet troll, then I don't know what to say! I find it shocking though.

You are making a fool of yourself. My advice is to put him on ignore. He will stop doing what he is doing when there is no response. Frankly, your comments about your looks indicate low self esteem. Overall, your behavior on this thread is demeaning, to yourself. That's my opinion.

Hmm. I don't think that thinking I'm a smart and attractive woman indicates a low self esteem, so I have to disagree with that statement as well. This troll has been making some VERY disgusting, very personal remarks. You are suggesting that I take that kind of treatment from some strange man on the internet.

You have been making disgusting and disturbing remarks about ME! At the rate of 3 of yours to one of mine! Maybe I will be the one to contact the police and initiate a criminal complaint against YOU!

 

[Iron Head]

And one more thing, I haven't done anything to any of you weirdos that you don't do on a frequent and REGULAR basis around here. If my posts bother you, I suggest you put me on ignore. Stalking me just makes YOU look strange and like you have problems and solves nothing. You aren't going to "run me out of town" Lol. Get a grip on yourselves. If you hate me because I have self esteem, think I'm smart and attractive, then I'm very sorry about that. Really, I am. Very, very sorry.

again with telling other people not to post?

perhaps you should think about how what you post looks to others.

now, stop whining if you can't handle the responses you get and you might want to re-evaluate who the weirdo is on this thread.

That "person" has done nothing but call me filthy names and make filthy suggestions about my personal life.

You are the one making this thread about you. And you are calling him filthy names too. If you want it to stop, you need to stop.

No. I asked very nicely several times for people to focus on the topic of discussion, and they refused. I can go get those posts. Did you read them? I'm sorry if you want me to lie down and take those kinds of personal attacks, but it's not going to happen that way. Do you usually blame the victim?

I am the victim here, not you!

 

[ChrisL]

anyone can find someone to sleep with.

and i've generally found that people who grandstand about stuff like that on the internets are full of it.

but if you need that. it's all good.

I agree that people, in RL or on the internet, who make a big deal of how wonderful they are, whether it's looks or something else, usually have issues about that very thing. If you have to tell people you are attractive and make it a big issue, something seems very false about it.

I'm just defending myself against a weirdo on the internet who is obsessed with my appearance, where I live, how I live my life. I don't really know what your issue is with that. If you have a problem with that and think that it means something other than defending myself against . . . . some ridiculous internet troll, then I don't know what to say! I find it shocking though.

You are making a fool of yourself. My advice is to put him on ignore. He will stop doing what he is doing when there is no response. Frankly, your comments about your looks indicate low self esteem. Overall, your behavior on this thread is demeaning, to yourself. That's my opinion.

Hmm. I don't think that thinking I'm a smart and attractive woman indicates a low self esteem, so I have to disagree with that statement as well. This troll has been making some VERY disgusting, very personal remarks. You are suggesting that I take that kind of treatment from some strange man on the internet.

You have been making disgusting and disturbing remarks about ME! At the rate of 3 of yours to one of mine! Maybe I will be the one to contact the police and initiate a criminal complaint against YOU!

Look buddy. I don't even know you. You are the one who first approached me and made comments that your purpose for being here was to troll me. You have some really serious issues, and other people (who are sane) can see that as well and have commented to me that I should be careful and that they are worried for my safety. You are a 50-year-old strange man on the internet. That is all you are.

 

[Asclepias]

No. I never said that.

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

Look, the difference is, I didn't and do not take "offense" to your particular personal preferences, nor the fact that you express those opinions regularly on this board. Why do you find it so offensive when I express mine? That is the million dollar question. I'm sorry, but my behavior is MUCH better than most of the others who post here.

Youre taking this personal and I apologize for and own that. I will refrain from making those comments when you are on the thread. I'm really just doing it to get a rise out of certain people. I dont find it so offensive when you express your opinion. I just disagree with your assertion that people shouldnt have a right to feel good about themselves because they are obese, or smoke, or anything. You can be a brat but you are no where near as bad as some people on this forum.

 

[ChrisL]

And one more thing, I haven't done anything to any of you weirdos that you don't do on a frequent and REGULAR basis around here. If my posts bother you, I suggest you put me on ignore. Stalking me just makes YOU look strange and like you have problems and solves nothing. You aren't going to "run me out of town" Lol. Get a grip on yourselves. If you hate me because I have self esteem, think I'm smart and attractive, then I'm very sorry about that. Really, I am. Very, very sorry.

again with telling other people not to post?

perhaps you should think about how what you post looks to others.

now, stop whining if you can't handle the responses you get and you might want to re-evaluate who the weirdo is on this thread.

That "person" has done nothing but call me filthy names and make filthy suggestions about my personal life.

You are the one making this thread about you. And you are calling him filthy names too. If you want it to stop, you need to stop.

No. I asked very nicely several times for people to focus on the topic of discussion, and they refused. I can go get those posts. Did you read them? I'm sorry if you want me to lie down and take those kinds of personal attacks, but it's not going to happen that way. Do you usually blame the victim?

I am the victim here, not you!

Okay, then go away from here. You posted here and addressed me of your own free will. No one asked you to post here and I didn't tag you to get your commentary either. I'm not interested in you or any of your opinions. so bye-bye!

 

[Coyote]

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

Aren't you supposed to be keeping people on topic here? Aren't you a moderator? What is your job here in this thread? To encourage personal attacks against members or to discourage them?

Just reading through the thread now but, as a reminder - a certain amount is allowed (review Zone 3 rules) - it doesn't help though if you respond in kind.

 

[Asclepias]

And one more thing, I haven't done anything to any of you weirdos that you don't do on a frequent and REGULAR basis around here. If my posts bother you, I suggest you put me on ignore. Stalking me just makes YOU look strange and like you have problems and solves nothing. You aren't going to "run me out of town" Lol. Get a grip on yourselves. If you hate me because I have self esteem, think I'm smart and attractive, then I'm very sorry about that. Really, I am. Very, very sorry.

again with telling other people not to post?

perhaps you should think about how what you post looks to others.

now, stop whining if you can't handle the responses you get and you might want to re-evaluate who the weirdo is on this thread.

That "person" has done nothing but call me filthy names and make filthy suggestions about my personal life.

You are the one making this thread about you. And you are calling him filthy names too. If you want it to stop, you need to stop.

No. I asked very nicely several times for people to focus on the topic of discussion, and they refused. I can go get those posts. Did you read them? I'm sorry if you want me to lie down and take those kinds of personal attacks, but it's not going to happen that way. Do you usually blame the victim?

I am the victim here, not you!

Stop being a stalker asshole.

 

[Coyote]

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

The statistics speak for themselves. Go look at them.

So you can't provide any evidence that these are "outliers"?

 

[ChrisL]

Oh? What did you say exactly? Shall I go retrieve the post? Are you going to try playing semantics now and implying that your comments are somehow more "acceptable" than mine?

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

Look, the difference is, I didn't and do not take "offense" to your particular personal preferences, nor the fact that you express those opinions regularly on this board. Why do you find it so offensive when I express mine? That is the million dollar question. I'm sorry, but my behavior is MUCH better than most of the others who post here.

Youre taking this personal and I apologize for and own that. I will refrain from making those comments when you are on the thread. I'm really just doing it to get a rise out of certain people. I dont find it so offensive when you express your opinion. I just disagree with your assertion that people shouldnt have a right to feel good about themselves because they are obese, or smoke, or anything. You can be a brat but you are no where near as bad as some people on this forum.

Not at all. I don't mind if you express what you find attractive. It doesn't bother me in the least bit, which is the point I am trying to make to you. You seem to think that my expressing my opinions is "hurtful" to someone, even though my comments are talking about no one in particular. However, you express your opinions about people and things all the time, so no, I am doing nothing different than anyone else. You can disagree, but that doesn't make me a "bad person" or trying to "hurt" someone.

 

[ChrisL]

again with telling other people not to post?

perhaps you should think about how what you post looks to others.

now, stop whining if you can't handle the responses you get and you might want to re-evaluate who the weirdo is on this thread.

That "person" has done nothing but call me filthy names and make filthy suggestions about my personal life.

You are the one making this thread about you. And you are calling him filthy names too. If you want it to stop, you need to stop.

No. I asked very nicely several times for people to focus on the topic of discussion, and they refused. I can go get those posts. Did you read them? I'm sorry if you want me to lie down and take those kinds of personal attacks, but it's not going to happen that way. Do you usually blame the victim?

I am the victim here, not you!

Stop being a stalker asshole.

Thank you! I appreciate that!

 

[ChrisL]

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

The statistics speak for themselves. Go look at them.

So you can't provide any evidence that these are "outliers"?

The statistics show that. Go look up the stats. They are all over google, and you can even choose your own sources.

 

[Asclepias]

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

Lol. WHO do you think you are fooling with this sudden "Mr. Sensitive" routine? I've read many of your posts.

I never claimed to be "Mr Sensitive". Not trying to fool anyone either.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

The statistics speak for themselves. Go look at them.

So you can't provide any evidence that these are "outliers"?

Socioeconomics and Obesity: The State of Obesity

 

[ChrisL]

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

Lol. WHO do you think you are fooling with this sudden "Mr. Sensitive" routine? I've read many of your posts.

I never claimed to be "Mr Sensitive". Not trying to fool anyone either.

Well, I must point out that you make your fair share of "insensitive" comments here!

 

[Defiant1]

I probably said some people prefer women that look like preteen boys withe breast implants.

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

And I think obesity is not beautiful and not okay. Sorry, there is no difference. I am saying that society should not accept obesity because it is unhealthy and mostly due to bad unhealthy habits. That is a fact. It is no better than smoking.

I asked you yesterday, but you didn't respond.

I thought our bodies were our own.

Shouldn't my medical decisions be only between me and my doctor?

 

[Coyote]

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

The statistics speak for themselves. Go look at them.

So you can't provide any evidence that these are "outliers"?

Socioeconomics and Obesity: The State of Obesity

That correlates obesity and poverty - doesn't say anything about laziness or that the successful people are "outliers" since they're only talking about 33%.

It doesn't surprise me that obesity is more common amongst poor people but again, the reason's are very complex - poor people are more likely to live in "food deserts" where access to healthy food is difficult, they are less likely to have access to health facilities and education and if obesity starts in child, it's extremely difficult to not be an obese adult.

 

[ChrisL]

Um, no. I quoted you. Now you are just basically saying that it is okay for you to express your opinions but not me. For some reason, me expressing my personal preferences is "offensive." Why is that?

Because you feel that people should feel bad about not meeting your obesity standards.

And you seem to feel that thin women should feel like preteen boys. There is no difference.

No. I said I think they look like preteen boys. Big difference in saying that and saying someone should feel bad about being thin.

And I think obesity is not beautiful and not okay. Sorry, there is no difference. I am saying that society should not accept obesity because it is unhealthy and mostly due to bad unhealthy habits. That is a fact. It is no better than smoking.

I asked you yesterday, but you didn't respond.

I thought our bodies were our own.

Shouldn't my medical decisions be only between me and my doctor?

That does nothing to negate any of the facts. The facts are that obesity is becoming a huge problem and is projected to become an even bigger problem. It is also totally preventable in most instances. Why should the American people accept this unhealthy habit but not, say, smoking? Should an obese person's insurance premiums be higher because they are obese which, in and of itself, is a risk factor to many future medical problems? Especially when it starts when you are just 12 years old or even younger in some instances. It's a big problem . . . for everyone.

Overweight in Children

Today, about one in three American kids and teens is overweight or obese. The prevalence of obesity in children more than tripled from 1971 to 2011.. With good reason,childhood obesity is now the No. 1 health concern among parents in the United States, topping drug abuse and smoking.

Among children today, obesity is causing a broad range of health problems that previously weren’t seen until adulthood. These includehigh blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and elevated blood cholesterol levels. There are also psychological effects: Obese children are more prone to low self-esteem, negative body image and depression.

And excess weight is associated with earlier risk of obesity-related disease and death in adulthood.. Perhaps one of the most sobering statements regarding the severity of the childhood obesity epidemic came from former Surgeon General Richard Carmona, who characterized the threat as follows:

“Because of the increasing rates of obesity, unhealthy eating habits and physical inactivity, we may see the first generation that will be less healthy and have a shorter life expectancy than their parents."

 

[ChrisL]

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

Do you?

They don't become successfull by being lazy.

Prove they are outliers.

The statistics speak for themselves. Go look at them.

So you can't provide any evidence that these are "outliers"?

Socioeconomics and Obesity: The State of Obesity

That correlates obesity and poverty - doesn't say anything about laziness or that the successful people are "outliers" since they're only talking about 33%.

It doesn't surprise me that obesity is more common amongst poor people but again, the reason's are very complex - poor people are more likely to live in "food deserts" where access to healthy food is difficult, they are less likely to have access to health facilities and education and if obesity starts in child, it's extremely difficult to not be an obese adult.

In my previous links, if you had bothered to read them, doctors have determined that a SEDENTARY lifestyle is most often responsible for obesity.