Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[ChrisL]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

No, I'm just looking for all these fat lazy people who sit on their lard asses all day. How do you suppose Oprah became a billionaire sitting on her lard ass all day?

There are plenty of them. You are in denial apparently. Lol. I have no idea, however I don't doubt that many millionaires are lard asses who sit around a lot of the time.

 

[sealybobo]

Look at Kelley Clarkson. WTF!!!!!

The Woman has more than enough money to hire a private chef to follow her around (the Limbaugh diet plan) but continues to help Hostess on their reemergence.

She always had thick legs. I wouldn't have dated young Kelly back in college because I would have foreseen her getting fat. I would have seen this coming.

Today 44 year old me wouldn't even screw the fat Kelly clarkston

 

[ChrisL]

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

 

[jillian]

You can't discuss obesity in a vacuum just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Obesity exists in relation to thinness.

Um no. Thin people are not costing billions of dollars in health related expenses. I think you should read some of the links I posted with facts and statistics about obesity and how serious a problem it is for us, and how it is projected to become an even worse problem in the future, as 1 in 3 children are now obese or overweight and many are suffering from obesity-related diseases, which is fucking terrible!

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

From ABC News in 2014:

Anorexia: America's Hidden Epidemic

Video: Anorexia: America's Hidden Epidemic

 

[Coyote]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

No, I'm just looking for all these fat lazy people who sit on their lard asses all day. How do you suppose Oprah became a billionaire sitting on her lard ass all day?

There are plenty of them. You are in denial apparently. Lol. I have no idea, however I don't doubt that many millionaires are lard asses who sit around a lot of the time.

You think Oprah does? Or Adele? How about Chris Christie? Meatloaf? These are all fat people who are highly accomplished, energetic, and lead very busy lives. When do you suppose they have time to sit around on their lard asses?

 

[sealybobo]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

No, I'm just looking for all these fat lazy people who sit on their lard asses all day. How do you suppose Oprah became a billionaire sitting on her lard ass all day?

There are plenty of them. You are in denial apparently. Lol. I have no idea, however I don't doubt that many millionaires are lard asses who sit around a lot of the time.

And they pay women like you $1000 for a night of your services.

 

[Coyote]

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

 

[OnePercenter]

If they are obese, they should feel bad. They are lazy unmotivated people who are basically telling us, hey, I'm satisfied with sitting on my lard arse all day eating junk food and I'm not going to make an attempt to become more healthy, and YOU all are going to pay for it. Lol.

These people are NO different from the smokers you all denigrate and say it's a disgusting habit. So is obesity. It is no less disgusting and no less unhealthy than smoking. Period.

You forgot drinking booze.

 

[ChrisL]

So no stigma on thin people? It's all about money?

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

Some facts for you. I am not the only one who thinks we have an obesity problem. Medical professionals overwhelmingly agree that obesity is not cause for celebration.

From the link I posted earlier, which you probably didn't bother to read.

As health care providers, we don’t know how to help our patients lose weight. Fortunately, organizations such as the American Diabetes Association (ADA) and the North American Association for the Study of Obesity (NAASO) are mounting increased educational efforts to fight the growing epidemic of obesity in this country, which confers increased risk for diabetes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and other serious comorbid conditions.

A jointly sponsored scientific meeting on obesity held in October, 2003, in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., was evidence of this commitment. Presentations focused on clinical interventions, present and future, population studies, and molecular mechanisms of obesity regulation, aimed at educating health care providers who take care of patients with weight problems.

In a feature article in this issue (p. 23), I’ve summarized a few of the exciting topics from this meeting. The amount of knowledge that is rapidly accumulating in the field of weight management will undoubtedly lead to safe and effective interventions to help us more effectively deal with this most pervasive health problem.

What can be done about this problem today? What approach do we take to help our patients now? Low-fat diet? Low-carb diet? What works? It appears that the jury is still out on this question. Longer and larger studies are needed before specific recommendations regarding dietary content can be made with confidence.

It may be that different diets will work in different people. Experts recommend a blend of diets, emphasizing portion control, calorie-counting, self-monitoring, and gradual increases in activity, starting with everyday activities.3 These simple measures do work if people practice them.

 

[Esmeralda]

"Fat" is a broad category (sorry). There are lots of people that carry some extra padding and are quite healthy but more importantly they feel good about themselves. I'm talking maybe 15 to 30 lbs extra. The problem I see is most of the really fat people I know including relatives do not feel good about themselves at all. It's more than just the fashion magazines glorifying skinny chicks and guys. It's almost as if these people build a layer around themselves as a way to hide. It's how they see themselves. If a healthy athletic person could switch bodies with an obese person I would bet that within a year the bodies would change to match the person inside.

I think it is an important point to understand that during the first half of the 20th century, and before, in America, the problem of obesity hardly existed. It is a phenomenon that has emerged since the production of processed food, junk food, and the rise of fast food restaurants. It has also been caused by the growth of cars in America, television and computers, and all the new machines and equipment people use around the home and yard to do their work for them--powered lawn mowers, automatic washing machines, vacuums, etc. People in America walk a vast amount less than they used to. They watch TV or are on the computer hours a day. They work more often sitting in offices than they used to. Work around the home is far less labor intensive than it used to be. And so on. People used to cook their own food from scratch.

People used to be, most often, naturally at a 'normal' weight with older people being somewhat thicker or heavier because of a slower metabolism.

Things have changed considerably in the past half century. And we have come to accept that it is 'normal.' The real problem is health, taking care of ourselves. It is not about beauty.

 

[ChrisL]

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

 

[sealybobo]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

No, I'm just looking for all these fat lazy people who sit on their lard asses all day. How do you suppose Oprah became a billionaire sitting on her lard ass all day?

There are plenty of them. You are in denial apparently. Lol. I have no idea, however I don't doubt that many millionaires are lard asses who sit around a lot of the time.

You think Oprah does? Or Adele? How about Chris Christie? Meatloaf? These are all fat people who are highly accomplished, energetic, and lead very busy lives. When do you suppose they have time to sit around on their lard asses?

Still you have to admit they can't be completely happy about their appearance. Former fat people always contradict fat people who say they are happy. The skinny version always admits fatty was lying.

 

[Coyote]

Why should there be stigma on thin people who don't suffer health issues and do not cost a lot of money in health related issues and do not look unattractive?

and do not look unattractive...there you go again.

Anorexia and bulimia have some serious and costly health issues associated with them. They don't look that attractive either.

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

Some facts for you. I am not the only one who thinks we have an obesity problem. Medical professionals overwhelmingly agree that obesity is not cause for celebration.

Ok, let's stick to the facts - no one is arguing that we don't have an obesity problem. Are we on the same page there?

From the link I posted earlier, which you probably didn't bother to read.

As health care providers, we don’t know how to help our patients lose weight. Fortunately, organizations such as the American Diabetes Association (ADA) and the North American Association for the Study of Obesity (NAASO) are mounting increased educational efforts to fight the growing epidemic of obesity in this country, which confers increased risk for diabetes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and other serious comorbid conditions.

A jointly sponsored scientific meeting on obesity held in October, 2003, in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., was evidence of this commitment. Presentations focused on clinical interventions, present and future, population studies, and molecular mechanisms of obesity regulation, aimed at educating health care providers who take care of patients with weight problems.

In a feature article in this issue (p. 23), I’ve summarized a few of the exciting topics from this meeting. The amount of knowledge that is rapidly accumulating in the field of weight management will undoubtedly lead to safe and effective interventions to help us more effectively deal with this most pervasive health problem.

What can be done about this problem today? What approach do we take to help our patients now? Low-fat diet? Low-carb diet? What works? It appears that the jury is still out on this question. Longer and larger studies are needed before specific recommendations regarding dietary content can be made with confidence.

It may be that different diets will work in different people. Experts recommend a blend of diets, emphasizing portion control, calorie-counting, self-monitoring, and gradual increases in activity, starting with everyday activities.3 These simple measures do work if people practice them.

And? There is nothing there I disagree with.

 

[ChrisL]

What Causes Overweight and Obesity?
Lack of Energy Balance
A lack of energy balance most often causes overweight and obesity. Energy balance means that your energy IN equals your energy OUT.

Energy IN is the amount of energy or calories you get from food and drinks. Energy OUT is the amount of energy your body uses for things like breathing, digesting, and being physically active.

To maintain a healthy weight, your energy IN and OUT don't have to balance exactly every day. It's the balance over time that helps you maintain a healthy weight.

• The same amount of energy IN and energy OUT over time = weight stays the same
• More energy IN than energy OUT over time = weight gain
• More energy OUT than energy IN over time = weight loss

Overweight and obesity happen over time when you take in more calories than you use.

Other Causes
An Inactive Lifestyle
Many Americans aren't very physically active. One reason for this is that many people spend hours in front of TVs and computers doing work, schoolwork, and leisure activities. In fact, more than 2 hours a day of regular TV viewing time has been linked to overweight and obesity.

Other reasons for not being active include: relying on cars instead of walking, fewer physical demands at work or at home because of modern technology and conveniences, and lack of physical education classes in schools.

People who are inactive are more likely to gain weight because they don't burn the calories that they take in from food and drinks. An inactive lifestyle also raises your risk for coronary heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, colon cancer, and other health problems.

Environment
Our environment doesn't support healthy lifestyle habits; in fact, it encourages obesity. Some reasons include:

• Lack of neighborhood sidewalks and safe places for recreation. Not having area parks, trails, sidewalks, and affordable gyms makes it hard for people to be physically active.
• Work schedules. People often say that they don't have time to be physically active because of long work hours and time spent commuting.
• Oversized food portions. Americans are exposed to huge food portions in restaurants, fast food places, gas stations, movie theaters, supermarkets, and even at home. Some of these meals and snacks can feed two or more people. Eating large portions means too much energy IN. Over time, this will cause weight gain if it isn't balanced with physical activity.
• Lack of access to healthy foods. Some people don't live in neighborhoods that have supermarkets that sell healthy foods, such as fresh fruits and vegetables. Or, for some people, these healthy foods are too costly.
• Food advertising. Americans are surrounded by ads from food companies. Often children are the targets of advertising for high-calorie, high-fat snacks and sugary drinks. The goal of these ads is to sway people to buy these high-calorie foods, and often they do.

 

[Coyote]

Overeating is probably more prevalent than anorexia or bulimia, but eating disorders are not costly in the realm of health outcomes. Obesity, however, is one of the countries biggest health concerns. Obeisity is not an eating disorder per sa. I think 2/3s are obese. I don't think anorexia is even epidemic.

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

 

[Coyote]

Oh...and here's another lazy unmotivated fattie who sits on her lard ass all day....

damn what a voice...

This changes nothing. Lol. You are just getting more and more silly with each post.

No, I'm just looking for all these fat lazy people who sit on their lard asses all day. How do you suppose Oprah became a billionaire sitting on her lard ass all day?

There are plenty of them. You are in denial apparently. Lol. I have no idea, however I don't doubt that many millionaires are lard asses who sit around a lot of the time.

You think Oprah does? Or Adele? How about Chris Christie? Meatloaf? These are all fat people who are highly accomplished, energetic, and lead very busy lives. When do you suppose they have time to sit around on their lard asses?

Still you have to admit they can't be completely happy about their appearance. Former fat people always contradict fat people who say they are happy. The skinny version always admits fatty was lying.

Whether they are or not, why shame them into feeling worse about themselves? That accomplishes nothing.

 

[OnePercenter]

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Most successful people aren't fat.

 

[Coyote]

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Most successful people aren't fat.

Probably because there is a significant bias against fat people.

 

[ChrisL]

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

Do you have any idea what these people do? Success doesn't mean you have to be active or exercise. Don't where you make that correlation. MOST wealthy people are not overweight. You are mentioning outliers. Not the norm.

 

[ChrisL]

It's not. They are just angry that some people don't find fat to be an attractive physical characteristic, I suppose. Well, I'm sure I am not alone in that opinion. I'm just honest about it. Obesity is a problem in this country right now, not thin people.

Who's angry?

You are apparently. Look, being obese is unhealthy. That is just a fact. My opinion is that fat is unattractive. Okay? You don't have to agree but your posting songs and celebrities doesn't mean shit! Lol. The statistics are what matter here, and the statistics say that obesity is unhealthy and is costing us a boat load of money, BILLIONS of dollars in related health care expenses. Those are facts, sweetie. Sorry.

None of those facts say anything about lazyness. That's your OPINION sweetie.

Oh okay. It has NOTHING to do with laziness. Lol. Hilarious! You are in denial. DENIAL.

Then explain to me how all these successful busy fat people are so lazy.

My post above (#376) explains and supports EVERYTHING I've said so far in this thread about obesity. It does not, however, support any of the "opinions" you've been spouting on this thread. You don't have to like the facts, but they don't change because you don't like them. They remain and obesity IS a problem.