Obamas forget recession and jet to NYC for date night, dinner and a show

[Fraulein Hilda]

How many people want government to make their healthcare decisions?

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Three out of four of my kids favor more candy.

I just polled them.

 

[Old Rocks]

Your problem is you are too stupid to realize they are not going to make your life better.

Only more dependent on government.

You are too stupid to know the difference.

Sure, when cornered with facts, call the person presenting them stupid. Good ol' Limp Rushbaugh tactics. The only strategy you Rushpublicans have left

 

[jgbkab]

Hey, are we even sure this was on the taxpayers dime? Uncontested doesn't mean unanimous. It means the results weren't contested. Hilda, I'm beginning to think that your cheese slid off the cracker.

 

[Meister]

kqed - Should the United States adopt a single-payer, universal health care plan?

58% of Americans favor a single payer system. Them are the facts.

YOU USED A PARTISAN HACK SITE, WHAT AN IDIOT. Nice try on that one OLD ROCKS You are a chump, champ. You are a liar...again

 

[Old Rocks]

Uncontested election? 58 million people voted against him.Tell me how he got to be a millionaire "on his own." His wife only got a $300,000 hospital administratod rob when he got elected to the Senate. Welcome to Chicago. When's the last time somebody offered you a $300,000 a year job because of who your husband was?

Does he deserve to fly to NYC and back on the taxpayers dime while kicking people to the curb in the private sector for doing the same? No.

This is all about them.

Uncontested. No doubt at all that he won the votes. Unlike both elections of the last resident of the White House.

Now your just lying again Old Rocks...knock it off

The whole world knows the story of the Felons list in Florida, and the voting machines in Ohio. You poor Bushbots simply cannot face the fact that your hero's terms began and ended in fraud, incompetance, and corruption. And that was just the minor stuff.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Hey, are we even sure this was on the taxpayers dime? Uncontested doesn't mean unanimous. It means the results weren't contested. Hilda, I'm beginning to think that your cheese slid off the cracker.

Uncontested means nobody ran against him.

Like Obama's thugs are making happen for Arlen Specter's primary.

Who paid for it? And, if they taxpayers did not, why won't the White House say how much it cost? Do they feel as though they were caught doing something?

 

[Old Rocks]

Support single-payer health care
By ROSEMARY KOFLER and LESLIE NYMAN
Published on May 22, 2009
National Nurses Day, May 7, honored nurses for their contributions to quality patient care. Nurses are proud to have the distinction of being among the most trusted professionals for honesty and ethics, according to a Gallup poll. There are nearly 2.9 million registered nurses in the U.S. who perform as professional educators, researchers, patient advocates and healers. Many nurses are disheartened by the fact that today more than 47 million Americans have no reliable access to health care.

Nurses are dedicated to relieving suffering, yet every day we see human suffering due to our country's healthcare crisis and the plight of the uninsured and underinsured. Nurses see patients who cannot afford life saving prescription drugs. Nurses see patients who cannot afford to seek preventive care and who then end up in ERs with complicated, chronic illnesses that lead to more costly intervention. Even patients who have health insurance can be denied treatment. One-half of all bankruptcies are due to medical costs and three-quarters of those people had health insurance at the start of their illnesses.

America needs a single-payer national health care program. We ask the private insurance companies to step aside. They have failed to deliver care equitably. They have failed to control costs. They have failed to create the best health outcomes. The U.S. is 49th in life expectancy and 44th in infant mortality among 224 nations of the world. Yet, we spend more than twice as much on health care as the higher-ranked nations. Private insurance companies put profit ahead of our health. They extract 30 percent of every health-care dollar for profit, advertising, marketing, inflated CEO salaries, medical underwriting and administrative waste.

A single-payer plan, such as that embodied in the House of Representatives bill HR 676, the U.S. Health Care Act, or in the Senate bill, S703, the American Health Security Act of 2009, would provide equitable, affordable, high quality, comprehensive care for every American. A single payer plan would: provide automatic coverage for life, regardless of job loss or job change; include preventive care, dental, vision, hearing, mental health and long-term care; assure choice of doctor and hospital; control costs by eliminating wasteful spending.

The majority of Americans favor a single-payer health care program. The Massachusetts Nurses Association, the California Nurses Association, 59 percent of physicians, members of the American College of Physicians and the Physicians for a National Health Program all support the single-payer approach to health care.

We ask our legislators to heed the call of nurses and other medical professionals and adopt a national single-payer health care plan for our nation. It is the humane thing to do.

Rosemary Kofler and Leslie Nyman are registered nurses who live in Amherst.
Amherst Bulletin | Support single-payer health care

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Uncontested. No doubt at all that he won the votes. Unlike both elections of the last resident of the White House.

Now your just lying again Old Rocks...knock it off

The whole world knows the story of the Felons list in Florida, and the voting machines in Ohio. You poor Bushbots simply cannot face the fact that your hero's terms began and ended in fraud, incompetance, and corruption. And that was just the minor stuff.

Let me get my tinfoil hat on, babe.

There, now tell me the MAJOR stuff.

 

[jgbkab]

Hey, are we even sure this was on the taxpayers dime? Uncontested doesn't mean unanimous. It means the results weren't contested. Hilda, I'm beginning to think that your cheese slid off the cracker.

Uncontested means nobody ran against him.

Like Obama's thugs are making happen for Arlen Specter's primary.

Who paid for it? And, if they taxpayers did not, why won't the White House say how much it cost? Do they feel as though they were caught doing something?

Adj. 1. uncontested - not disputed and not made the object of contention or competition; "uncontested authority"
contested - disputed or made the object of contention or competition; "a contested election"

If he paid for it is he obligated to tell you how much it cost?

 

[Meister]

Uncontested. No doubt at all that he won the votes. Unlike both elections of the last resident of the White House.

Now your just lying again Old Rocks...knock it off

The whole world knows the story of the Felons list in Florida, and the voting machines in Ohio. You poor Bushbots simply cannot face the fact that your hero's terms began and ended in fraud, incompetance, and corruption. And that was just the minor stuff

Can you prove it or, is this just you ranting your lies as usual Old Rocks???

 

[jreeves]

kqed - Should the United States adopt a single-payer, universal health care plan?

58% of Americans favor a single payer system. Them are the facts.

Yep and....

A Poll for Tax Day | Cato @ Liberty
The latest poll to ask the question “would you prefer a more active government with more services and higher taxes or a smaller government with fewer services and lower taxes?” found that 66 percent prefer smaller government and lower taxes, to only 25 percent who prefer a “more active government” with more services.

66 percent favor smaller government and only 25 want a more active government. Would universal healthcare make government smaller or larger?

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Does Old Rocks want government to make his/her healthcare decisions?

Does Old Rocks have a poll that says Americans want government to make their healthcare decisions?

Does Old Rocks think a "single payer sytem," who is the government, does not mean the government makes your healthcare decisions?

 

[Old Rocks]

Date Poll, Survey, or Initiative Highlight Details
Feb.
2009
Grove Insight Opinion Research "When given a choice of the current system or one "like Medicare that is run by the government and financed by taxpayers," voters overwhelmingly chose the latter. A solid majority (59%) say they would prefer a national health insurance program that covers everyone, over the current system of private insurance offered to most through their emloyer." Link
Feb.
2009
New York Times/CBS News Poll Americans are more likely today to embrace the idea of the government providing health insurance than they were 30 years ago. 59% say the government should provide national health insurance, including 49% who say such insurance should cover all medical problems. Link
Nov. 2008 Ballot initiative question in Massachusetts, “Should the representative from this district be instructed to support legislation creating a cost-effective single payer health insurance system that is available to all residents, and oppose laws penalizing those who fail to obtain health insurance?” "....local ballot initiatives supporting single payer and opposing individual mandates passed by landslide margins in all ten legislative districts where they appeared. With almost all precincts tallied, roughly 73 percent of 181,000 voters in the ten districts voted YES...."
Single-Payer Poll, Survey, and Initiative Results

 

[Meister]

Does Old Rocks want government to make his/her healthcare decisions?

Does Old Rocks have a poll that says Americans want government to make their healthcare decisions?

Does Old Rocks think a "single payer sytem," who is the government, does not mean the government makes your healthcare decisions?

Old Rocks lies a lot and uses faulty sites to prove his point. He's either a socialist or a communist...I'm not sure which one.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Hey, are we even sure this was on the taxpayers dime? Uncontested doesn't mean unanimous. It means the results weren't contested. Hilda, I'm beginning to think that your cheese slid off the cracker.

Uncontested means nobody ran against him.

Like Obama's thugs are making happen for Arlen Specter's primary.

Who paid for it? And, if they taxpayers did not, why won't the White House say how much it cost? Do they feel as though they were caught doing something?

Adj. 1. uncontested - not disputed and not made the object of contention or competition; "uncontested authority"
contested - disputed or made the object of contention or competition; "a contested election"

If he paid for it is he obligated to tell you how much it cost?

The 2008 election fails that definition.

You're goddamned right he is. 1) He has done nothing but flap his purple lips about "transparency.' 2) He is not a goddamned king, despite your insistence that he be treated as such to the contrary. He is spending tax dollars on his personal entertainment, and I have every right to know how much. And if the press were doing their job, they would demand to know.

And it will come out how much it cost, so you better prepare the next level of spin on this.

 

[Old Rocks]

No Reason to Demonize U.S. Single-Payer Health: John F. Wasik
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Commentary by John F. Wasik



March 11 (Bloomberg) -- It’s time to stop kicking sand in the face of single-payer health care. It may be the strongest solution around to insure every American at a lower cost.

After decades of industry campaigns against this model -- dubbed by its critics as “socialized” medicine -- it’s important to stop whining and evaluate the many economic benefits. Health care is a fundamental human right.

If President Barack Obama wants real change in American health care, he will have to get over the fear of even mentioning single-payer concepts. At his health-care summit last week, only the threat of a demonstration garnered late invitations for Oliver Fein and Congressman John Conyers, two leading proponents of the single-payer plan.

Health-care costs have become a crippling personal-finance burden for 45 million uninsured and 25 million underinsured Americans. Those outside of the fractured employer-based system are only one illness away from financial ruin.

Lose your job and most likely your health coverage will disappear unless you want to pay exorbitant rates. And it’s getting worse. Because of the growing jobless rate, some 14,000 Americans are losing their coverage daily, according to the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

A single-payer plan would cover everybody regardless of employment situation and save money by cutting out middlemen.

$400 Billion

Fein, president of Physicians for a National Health Program, said a single-payer program would offer $400 billion in annual administrative savings and provide “effective cost containment provisions such as bulk purchasing and global budgeting.”
No Reason to Demonize U.S. Single-Payer Health: John F. Wasik - Bloomberg.com

 

[jreeves]

Date Poll, Survey, or Initiative Highlight Details
Feb.
2009
Grove Insight Opinion Research "When given a choice of the current system or one "like Medicare that is run by the government and financed by taxpayers," voters overwhelmingly chose the latter. A solid majority (59%) say they would prefer a national health insurance program that covers everyone, over the current system of private insurance offered to most through their emloyer." Link
Feb.
2009
New York Times/CBS News Poll Americans are more likely today to embrace the idea of the government providing health insurance than they were 30 years ago. 59% say the government should provide national health insurance, including 49% who say such insurance should cover all medical problems. Link
Nov. 2008 Ballot initiative question in Massachusetts, “Should the representative from this district be instructed to support legislation creating a cost-effective single payer health insurance system that is available to all residents, and oppose laws penalizing those who fail to obtain health insurance?” "....local ballot initiatives supporting single payer and opposing individual mandates passed by landslide margins in all ten legislative districts where they appeared. With almost all precincts tallied, roughly 73 percent of 181,000 voters in the ten districts voted YES...."
Single-Payer Poll, Survey, and Initiative Results

What does that tell you if 66 percent of Americans want smaller government and 59% want universal healthcare? Polls don't mean shit!

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Does Old Rocks want government to make his/her healthcare decisions?

Does Old Rocks have a poll that says Americans want government to make their healthcare decisions?

Does Old Rocks think a "single payer sytem," who is the government, does not mean the government makes your healthcare decisions?

Old Rocks lies a lot and uses faulty sites to prove his point. He's either a socialist or a communist...I'm not sure which one.

His links are only half his problem. He is either dishonest or ignorant about what a government run health care system is.

 

[Old Rocks]

Uncontested means nobody ran against him.

Like Obama's thugs are making happen for Arlen Specter's primary.

Who paid for it? And, if they taxpayers did not, why won't the White House say how much it cost? Do they feel as though they were caught doing something?

Adj. 1. uncontested - not disputed and not made the object of contention or competition; "uncontested authority"
contested - disputed or made the object of contention or competition; "a contested election"

If he paid for it is he obligated to tell you how much it cost?

The 2008 election fails that definition.

You're goddamned right he is. 1) He has done nothing but flap his purple lips about "transparency.' 2) He is not a goddamned king, despite your insistence that he be treated as such to the contrary. He is spending tax dollars on his personal entertainment, and I have every right to know how much. And if the press were doing their job, they would demand to know.

And it will come out how much it cost, so you better prepare the next level of spin on this.

Well, well, nice little bigot. Now we know the source of your animosity. Can't stand them uppity people that are American Success stories when they are the wrong color. Too bad, get used to seeing Americans of whatever color that have great talent succeed in this nation.