Obama will win Ohio

[decker]

Dr.T's argument above is solid.

That is why you far righties have to shut up about cultural and social values, much of what turns of many of the independents, and concentrate only on the economy.

I have said for a year by only arguing for the economy can be Obama. Everything else distracts.

very true and unemployment has improved and we are starting to see growth. think president tried really hard to see growth go up last two years

the promblem is when you have cnn poll saying people think 66% to 34% that romney better on ecnomey that not a good number

but i still think obama can win but he need to with advertsing really nail difference between his growth plan and romney cut plan.

UE didn't improve at all it was revised up 46000 today.

but unemployment did go down to 7.8%. still not great but better then nothing

 

[DiamondDave]

very true and unemployment has improved and we are starting to see growth. think president tried really hard to see growth go up last two years

the promblem is when you have cnn poll saying people think 66% to 34% that romney better on ecnomey that not a good number

but i still think obama can win but he need to with advertsing really nail difference between his growth plan and romney cut plan.

UE didn't improve at all it was revised up 46000 today.

but unemployment did go down to 7.8%. still not great but better then nothing

Not when labor force participation rate is the lowest it has been since 1981 and there are ever increasing #'s of people who are no longer looking for work

 

[Zarius]

Forget it. This guy is in the tank for romney. He fooled me at first but now I see what his game is. Dont waste anymore time on him

As I said earlier in the thread, he is a classic concern troll.

I am not a troll. really that is total bullshit. I deny totally that lie you just said. I would never troll anything.

I just expressed my views but because it does not agree with you call me a troll.

Disagree with me but don,t throw false lies you can not back up at me.

I have a question for you,why is it that all you can put out are bad numbers for Obama? You mean to tell me that you dont see RCP giving mittens NC with a 4.8% lead but wont give Obama PA with a 5% lead?

 

[Oddball]

As I said earlier in the thread, he is a classic concern troll.

I am not a troll. really that is total bullshit. I deny totally that lie you just said. I would never troll anything.

I just expressed my views but because it does not agree with you call me a troll.

Disagree with me but don,t throw false lies you can not back up at me.

I have a question for you,why is it that all you can put out are bad numbers for Obama? You mean to tell me that you dont see RCP giving mittens NC with a 4.8% lead but wont give Obama PA with a 5% lead?

Likely because Romney is consistently polling in excess of 50% in NC, while Oboingo is hard pressed to break that barrier in PA.

 

[JakeStarkey]

RCP disagrees with you, Oddball, having been above and below that number for Obama but never anything near break even for Romney.

I am not a troll. really that is total bullshit. I deny totally that lie you just said. I would never troll anything.

I just expressed my views but because it does not agree with you call me a troll.

Disagree with me but don,t throw false lies you can not back up at me.

I have a question for you,why is it that all you can put out are bad numbers for Obama? You mean to tell me that you dont see RCP giving mittens NC with a 4.8% lead but wont give Obama PA with a 5% lead?

Likely because Romney is consistently polling in excess of 50% in NC, while Oboingo is hard pressed to break that barrier in PA.

 

[Oddball]

I just looked at the RCP numbers, dipschitt....Oboingo oh-but-barely cracks 50% barrier in PA.

You don't have a strong plurality, the state is a tossup.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/pa/pennsylvania_romney_vs_obama-1891.html

 

[JakeStarkey]

I see what you mean, OddOne. 50% is meaningless, when Obama is 5% points ahead of Romney and has floated between 4 and 8% for the last half year. Nothing is going to change that in the next 12 days. PA will go Obama.

OH, now, is another matter. If OH, WI, and IA will shift, then MR wins easily.

And you have no idea what a "strong plurality" actually means in politics.

 

[decker]

i don,t always post negative numbers. i talked about obama being in lead in places like ohio, wi,ma and pa. so don,t say i never said anything postive a bout obama number because i have. i also said he was in lead in rcp swing states. so your notion that i am just negative or even worst a troll is just bullshit .

again is that your excuse for calling me a troll. well that is pretty pathetic.

 

[Oddball]

I see what you mean, OddOne. 50% is meaningless, when Obama is 5% points ahead of Romney and has floated between 4 and 8% for the last half year. Nothing is going to change that in the next 12 days. PA will go Obama.

OH, now, is another matter. If OH, WI, and IA will shift, then MR wins easily.

50% is meaningful because the undecideds historically break for the challenger when the incumbent doesn't have a plurality.


Though I wouldn't expect you to actually know anything about real historical facts or acknowledge them, when they don't comport with your bizzaro world...Just sayin'.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not in this case. You have no on-ground evidence that anything of the sort is occuring in OH.

And you of all people should not be trying to inform others on matters of history or economics.

 

[Zarius]

i don,t always post negative numbers. i talked about obama being in lead in places like ohio, wi,ma and pa. so don,t say i never said anything postive a bout obama number because i have. i also said he was in lead in rcp swing states. so your notion that i am just negative or even worst a troll is just bullshit .

again is that your excuse for calling me a troll. well that is pretty pathetic.

I didnt call you that but you do play a everytime someone post positive numbers Ill just jump in with some negatives. Thats what you have done the past two days. I think you may be republican and trying to sound like Im a democrat and theirs no hope Obama can win. Thats what I believe. If I am wrong then prove it.

 

[decker]

i don,t always post negative numbers. i talked about obama being in lead in places like ohio, wi,ma and pa. so don,t say i never said anything postive a bout obama number because i have. i also said he was in lead in rcp swing states. so your notion that i am just negative or even worst a troll is just bullshit .

again is that your excuse for calling me a troll. well that is pretty pathetic.

I didnt call you that but you do play a everytime someone post positive numbers Ill just jump in with some negatives. Thats what you have done the past two days. I think you may be republican and trying to sound like Im a democrat and theirs no hope Obama can win. Thats what I believe. If I am wrong then prove it.

well your wrong and i say that on my life. i am a liberal. i never support conservative any time in my life because i don,t agree with much of their view.

i am a pro choice, belive in gay marriage, the public sector, ensuring rich pay taxes. i hate much what gop stand for. helping the rich and stuffering the poor.

anyway i don,t have to bull jackshit to a idiot like yourself who because someone has worries about about a election you go with bullshit about them pretending to be something theit now

you make false lies at me and then base it on your belief. bullshit.

 

[Zarius]

i don,t always post negative numbers. i talked about obama being in lead in places like ohio, wi,ma and pa. so don,t say i never said anything postive a bout obama number because i have. i also said he was in lead in rcp swing states. so your notion that i am just negative or even worst a troll is just bullshit .

again is that your excuse for calling me a troll. well that is pretty pathetic.

I didnt call you that but you do play a everytime someone post positive numbers Ill just jump in with some negatives. Thats what you have done the past two days. I think you may be republican and trying to sound like Im a democrat and theirs no hope Obama can win. Thats what I believe. If I am wrong then prove it.

well your wrong and i say that on my life. i am a liberal. i never support conservative any time in my life because i don,t agree with much of their view.

i am a pro choice, belive in gay marriage, the public sector, ensuring rich pay taxes. i hate much what gop stand for. helping the rich and stuffering the poor.

anyway i don,t have to bull jackshit to a idiot like yourself who because someone has worries about about a election you go with bullshit about them pretending to be something theit now

you make false lies at me and then base it on your belief. bullshit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/u...bama-lure-blue-collar-votes-in-ohio.html?_r=0

 

[decker]

well great to see bruce go out and fight for dems with master that is bill clinton.

in end got to fight to the end