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If you drop a bullet from muzzle level at the same time you fire the weapon, both projectiles will hit the ground at the same time. Physics is phun.
If the land is flat, that is (approximately) true. But it's not as simple as you think.
On a good day a .22 MIGHT travel a mile if you shoot it into the air at a 45 degree angle. Is the OP trying to tell us that the shooters climb 40 feet into the tree to tack their target?
Personally, I think the OP is pajama boy posting here.
Again, that's only when fired at a trajectory favorable for distance. The shooter would be tacking their targets 40 feet up in a tree. I've seen a drunk or two firing at targets but never saw one that climbed 40 feet into a tree to do it.
Again, that's only when fired at a trajectory favorable for distance. The shooter would be tacking their targets 40 feet up in a tree. I've seen a drunk or two firing at targets but never saw one that climbed 40 feet into a tree to do it.
Or, as he claimed, they are shooting on a ridgeline. I just think that bit was added to cover his ignorance.
I have used Forest Service land many times for target practice. There are some simple rules to observe when doing so.
#1. You don't tack targets to trees. Those trees are public property, worth a good deal of money when they mature. Damaging them is destruction of public property, and that act should be treated in that manner. Second, you are endangering the people that log those trees and process them in the sawmills. A bullet can break a chain saw chain, and the resulting injury to the logger can be serious to mortal.
#2. You have a solid backdrop. In other words, the bullet stops at a given range, no possibility of any one being hurt downrange.
#3. Be considerate of others. Many people do find the sound of gunfire very disturbing. Respect that, and do your shooting well away from others.
A bullet can conceivably travel for miles. But it would hardly be accidental.
Most shooters I know use the shooting ranges that many state and national forests have set up. I have never seen one single drunk at any of them. I have seen one drunk shooting at a makeshift target in Talladega National Forest. Or at least that is what the ranger told me when I drove up as they were arresting him.
Yeah, this is about yuppies freaking out when they hear gun fire during deer season. The sound CAN travel for miles.
But if those idiots want to ban all shooting on public lands, there will be far fewer places available for hunters to sight-in and to practice. This won't make things any quieter, but it very well could result in many more wounded animals dying slow, cruel deaths.
We worked this out in college: hold a bullet at the level you're firing the weapon and drop it. Measure the time it takes before hitting the ground. That's the total flight time of the bullet fired barring special flight-stablized rounds and the like. If the weapon being fired fires rounds at say 3,000 feet per second, and the bullet drop took (for ease of the math here) .1 seconds, the total distance the weapon will fire is just 300 feet. A bullet can conceivably travel for miles. But it would hardly be accidental.
Most shooters I know use the shooting ranges that many state and national forests have set up. I have never seen one single drunk at any of them. I have seen one drunk shooting at a makeshift target in Talladega National Forest. Or at least that is what the ranger told me when I drove up as they were arresting him.
Yeah, this is about yuppies freaking out when they hear gun fire during deer season. The sound CAN travel for miles.
But if those idiots want to ban all shooting on public lands, there will be far fewer places available for hunters to sight-in and to practice. This won't make things any quieter, but it very well could result in many more wounded animals dying slow, cruel deaths.
In space maybe.
Gravity will make the bullet hit the ground WAY before it travels it's max potential range. It's why shooting long distances as with snipers have to angle their shot up to offset gravity. But if shooting level as with target shooting there's little to no risk if the backstop's adequate to catch the round.
More worry over richochets. Having been dinged by them myself on ranges using metal hangers I starting wearing my vest at the range.
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No bullet travels for miles mate. Certainly not any civilian-available one. Gravity pulls it to the ground long-before it reaches a maximum range. To have it travel to max range you'd have to angle it up like a bow firing an arrow.
I only target practice on private land, mine
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I have used Forest Service land many times for target practice. There are some simple rules to observe when doing so.
#1. You don't tack targets to trees. Those trees are public property, worth a good deal of money when they mature. Damaging them is destruction of public property, and that act should be treated in that manner. Second, you are endangering the people that log those trees and process them in the sawmills. A bullet can break a chain saw chain, and the resulting injury to the logger can be serious to mortal.
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I support this. I live in a state with lots of national forest land and shooters are everywhere. They put a piece of target paper on a tree 10" thick and fire away. When they miss the tree (they're all drunks) the bullet goes for miles. And the noise can easily travel 5 miles. I do lots of camping and all day long you hear gun shots. I don't know how people who live in the mountains handle it.
GUN WATCH: Kurt Hoffman: Obama Administration to Ban Shooting on Public Lands
Tuesday, December 24, 2013
Kurt Hoffman: Obama Administration to Ban Shooting on Public Lands
The U.S. News and World Report noted Monday that the Obama administration, perhaps frustrated at its inability to impose yet more restrictive gun regulation through the legislative process, is once again doing everything it can by executive diktat. This time, the infringement on that which shall not be infringed is to come via proposed new regulations barring hunters and target shooters from millions of acres of public land.
Gun owners who have historically been able to use public lands for target practice would be barred from potentially millions of acres under new rules drafted by the Interior Department, the first major move by the Obama administration to impose limits on firearms.
With candor that has likely not endeared him to his superiors, a Department of the Interior official freely admits that the idea here is not to make anyone safer:
"It's not so much a safety issue. It's a social conflict issue," said Frank Jenks, a natural resource specialist with Interior's Bureau of Land Management, which oversees 245 million acres. He adds that urbanites "freak out" when they hear shooting on public lands.
A bullet can conceivably travel for miles. But it would hardly be accidental.
Most shooters I know use the shooting ranges that many state and national forests have set up. I have never seen one single drunk at any of them. I have seen one drunk shooting at a makeshift target in Talladega National Forest. Or at least that is what the ranger told me when I drove up as they were arresting him.
Yeah, this is about yuppies freaking out when they hear gun fire during deer season. The sound CAN travel for miles.
But if those idiots want to ban all shooting on public lands, there will be far fewer places available for hunters to sight-in and to practice. This won't make things any quieter, but it very well could result in many more wounded animals dying slow, cruel deaths.
In space maybe.
Gravity will make the bullet hit the ground WAY before it travels it's max potential range. It's why shooting long distances as with snipers have to angle their shot up to offset gravity. But if shooting level as with target shooting there's little to no risk if the backstop's adequate to catch the round.
More worry over richochets. Having been dinged by them myself on ranges using metal hangers I starting wearing my vest at the range.
Your equation includes level ground and a level barrel. The ridgeline he mentioned did allow for a much greater drop. And of course, I am sure he would insist the targets were all high up.
Like I said, it is possible for bullets to travel for miles. But I very much doubt it would happen by accident.
This is about idiots getting scared when they hear gunfire from miles away.
In space maybe.
Gravity will make the bullet hit the ground WAY before it travels it's max potential range. It's why shooting long distances as with snipers have to angle their shot up to offset gravity. But if shooting level as with target shooting there's little to no risk if the backstop's adequate to catch the round.
More worry over richochets. Having been dinged by them myself on ranges using metal hangers I starting wearing my vest at the range.
Your equation includes level ground and a level barrel. The ridgeline he mentioned did allow for a much greater drop. And of course, I am sure he would insist the targets were all high up.
Like I said, it is possible for bullets to travel for miles. But I very much doubt it would happen by accident.
This is about idiots getting scared when they hear gunfire from miles away.
Fair point there. What people don't realize about gunfire, if not experienced with guns or being shot at is by the time you hear the report, if the bullet's headed at you it's already through you. Sound travels at 1127.5 feet per second, average rifle shot is in excess of 2,000 feet per second (faster than sound.) So by the time you hear the shot the bullet's already a non-threat unless you realize you've actually been shot. Exception being larger calibre handgun rounds which are usually sub-sonic (.45 et al.) at around 700 fps.
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No bullet travels for miles mate. Certainly not any civilian-available one. Gravity pulls it to the ground long-before it reaches a maximum range. To have it travel to max range you'd have to angle it up like a bow firing an arrow.
You stupid jackass. As i explained earlier, if you're firing from a ridge top, the bullet can easily travel for miles even though you're holding it horizontal to the ground. THINK
The area where i like to camp has LOTS of ridgetop shooting.
