Obama has to Learn to STFU

[rightwinger]

Why is it any of his business how people spend their money? Would you appreciate your neighbor telling you how raise your kids? Telling you where to vacation? He is the President, not our father, not our mother. Now, don't get me wrong, I agree with what he said, I just don't think it's his place to say it.

If not the President then who?

In the context of his entire statement he is well within his rights to discuss "tightening your belt" He applied a metaphor of families prioritizing spending to government prioritizing spending.

I don't see why advocating not buying a boat when you can't pay your mortgage is a concept so hard for conservatives to grasp. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Obama is such a clueless, reckless, moron.

His big mouth is affecting thousands of jobs, in an already bad economy.

Unless Obama is going to say something to help the economy, and not hurt it he should shut the fuck up.

Lets put it in language you can understand..

People who cannot afford to pay their mortgages should not be wasting scarce dollars on Amway products

Understand now?

If you tell people not to buy boats, the boat builders and brokers will go broke. The suppliers to the boat builders will suffer loss of income. The people that work for the boat builders and brokers will become unemployed. Their input to the economy will disappear, except for the taxes they owe.

There is no need for the government to tell consumers where to spend their money.

Perhaps you and that inept Marxist Obama will someday learn that fucking fact.

And right wing conservatives never rant about how welfare recipients spend their money on expensive sneakers and cell phones? They didn't rant about people taking motgages they couldn't afford? They didn' t rant about people spending money on frivolous goods and then not being able to buy health insurance?

 

[asaratis]

If not the President then who?

In the context of his entire statement he is well within his rights to discuss "tightening your belt" He applied a metaphor of families prioritizing spending to government prioritizing spending.

I don't see why advocating not buying a boat when you can't pay your mortgage is a concept so hard for conservatives to grasp. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Lets put it in language you can understand..

People who cannot afford to pay their mortgages should not be wasting scarce dollars on Amway products

Understand now?

If you tell people not to buy boats, the boat builders and brokers will go broke. The suppliers to the boat builders will suffer loss of income. The people that work for the boat builders and brokers will become unemployed. Their input to the economy will disappear, except for the taxes they owe.

There is no need for the government to tell consumers where to spend their money.

Perhaps you and that inept Marxist Obama will someday learn that fucking fact.

And right wing conservatives never rant about how welfare recipients spend their money on expensive sneakers and cell phones? They didn't rant about people taking motgages they couldn't afford? They didn' t rant about people spending money on frivolous goods and then not being able to buy health insurance?

The liberalism in our government enabled and encouraged the purchase of more house than could be afforded.

I don't care what welfare recipients buy....as long as the government doesn't tell them what to buy. Let them buy steak for their dogs for all I care. Let them gamble. Let them beg on the street corners for quarters to save up for a drink they will have to BUY!

The government has no place in telling people how not to spend their money.

Obama is destroying our economy. He is an inept President.

 

[asaratis]

If not the President then who?

In the context of his entire statement he is well within his rights to discuss "tightening your belt" He applied a metaphor of families prioritizing spending to government prioritizing spending.

I don't see why advocating not buying a boat when you can't pay your mortgage is a concept so hard for conservatives to grasp. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Lets put it in language you can understand..

People who cannot afford to pay their mortgages should not be wasting scarce dollars on Amway products

Understand now?

If you tell people not to buy boats, the boat builders and brokers will go broke. The suppliers to the boat builders will suffer loss of income. The people that work for the boat builders and brokers will become unemployed. Their input to the economy will disappear, except for the taxes they owe.

There is no need for the government to tell consumers where to spend their money.

Perhaps you and that inept Marxist Obama will someday learn that fucking fact.

Gambling is not an industry. Industry implies something of worth. Hiring people to help other people to flush thier hard earned money down the toilet should be discouraged.

I suppose you support the crack "industry" as well.

What a strawman hack you are.

Employed people spend their money. Everything it takes to support a city suffers when the main plant in town slows down or closes. Gambling is legal. The surrounding support functions are private businesses that thrive on the cash spent outside the casinos.

Obama should not be telling the people what not to spend their money on.

That in no way translates to my support of the crack industry.

 

[hjmick]

That Marxist/Socialist/Muslim/Nazi..

How dare he say you should prioritize your childrens college education over a weekend in Vegas?

What is this country coming to?

Why is it any of his business how people spend their money? Would you appreciate your neighbor telling you how raise your kids? Telling you where to vacation? He is the President, not our father, not our mother. Now, don't get me wrong, I agree with what he said, I just don't think it's his place to say it.

If not the President then who?

In the context of his entire statement he is well within his rights to discuss "tightening your belt" He applied a metaphor of families prioritizing spending to government prioritizing spending.

I don't see why advocating not buying a boat when you can't pay your mortgage is a concept so hard for conservatives to grasp. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Me. I am an adult. I am responsible for myself. I know what I can afford and what I cannot. Prior to adulthood, it was my parents who took care of such issues. Not the neighbors, not the President. You ask, "Whatever happened to personal responsibility?" Nothing happened to it, as long as you are willing to exercise it rather than relinquish to the hands of the government. For me, it starts with not wanting or needing a lecture about finances from a President whose policies are driving us as a country deeper and deeper into debt. This goes for Obama as well. Anyone who spends beyond their means, well, quite frankly, gets what they deserve.

 

[HUGGY]

If you tell people not to buy boats, the boat builders and brokers will go broke. The suppliers to the boat builders will suffer loss of income. The people that work for the boat builders and brokers will become unemployed. Their input to the economy will disappear, except for the taxes they owe.

There is no need for the government to tell consumers where to spend their money.

Perhaps you and that inept Marxist Obama will someday learn that fucking fact.

Gambling is not an industry. Industry implies something of worth. Hiring people to help other people to flush thier hard earned money down the toilet should be discouraged.

I suppose you support the crack "industry" as well.

What a strawman hack you are.

Employed people spend their money. Everything it takes to support a city suffers when the main plant in town slows down or closes. Gambling is legal. The surrounding support functions are private businesses that thrive on the cash spent outside the casinos.

Obama should not be telling the people what not to spend their money on.

That in no way translates to my support of the crack industry.

Strawman hack? Ya that's me the dummie hack that thinks it might make sense for americans to think more intelligently on how they should spend thier money in a time when getting something for your money is critical.

I do not flinch from my comparison to gambling and crack.. Crack dealers spend thier money in the community also. I see no difference in casino owners and colombian cartel bosses. Both industries waste valuable resources.

 

[asaratis]

Gambling is not an industry. Industry implies something of worth. Hiring people to help other people to flush thier hard earned money down the toilet should be discouraged.

I suppose you support the crack "industry" as well.

What a strawman hack you are.

Employed people spend their money. Everything it takes to support a city suffers when the main plant in town slows down or closes. Gambling is legal. The surrounding support functions are private businesses that thrive on the cash spent outside the casinos.

Obama should not be telling the people what not to spend their money on.

That in no way translates to my support of the crack industry.

Strawman hack? Ya that's me the dummie hack that thinks it might make sense for americans to think more intelligently on how they should spend thier money in a time when getting something for your money is critical.

I do not flinch from my comparison to gambling and crack.. Crack dealers spend thier money in the community also. I see no difference in casino owners and colombian cartel bosses. Both industries waste valuable resources.

So...you just classified them both as industries. Good for you.


Gambling is legal...drugs are not.

You do not have hotels, restaurants, bars, clubs and shops built around the crack industry...like I'm gonna go get a room at the Ritz in Detroit so I can go spend a few thousand dollars for a week's worth of crack house visits.

 

[HUGGY]

What a strawman hack you are.

Employed people spend their money. Everything it takes to support a city suffers when the main plant in town slows down or closes. Gambling is legal. The surrounding support functions are private businesses that thrive on the cash spent outside the casinos.

Obama should not be telling the people what not to spend their money on.

That in no way translates to my support of the crack industry.

Strawman hack? Ya that's me the dummie hack that thinks it might make sense for americans to think more intelligently on how they should spend thier money in a time when getting something for your money is critical.

I do not flinch from my comparison to gambling and crack.. Crack dealers spend thier money in the community also. I see no difference in casino owners and colombian cartel bosses. Both industries waste valuable resources.

So...you just classified them both as industries. Good for you.


Gambling is legal...drugs are not.

You do not have hotels, restaurants, bars, clubs and shops built around the crack industry...like I'm gonna go get a room at the Ritz in Detroit so I can go spend a few thousand dollars for a week's worth of crack house visits.

Getting back on topic...Your advise is foolish..the president's is not. Suggesting Obama has no right to suggest prudent spending is assinine.

 

[JScott]

how has the president squelched las vegas? specifics please.

You can’t get corporate jets. You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayer’s dime, ” President Barack Obama said to a town hall meeting in Elkhart, Ind. last week.

But the remark caused a hailstorm of anger from Las Vegas officials, members of the travel industry and even residents. And now the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority will launch a six-figure campaign with ads in The Wall Street Journal, USA Today and other publications featuring company testimonials.

“People are telling me that they’re not coming to Las Vegas because the president doesn’t want them to,” Mayor Oscar B. Goodman told the New York Times. Goodman at first demanded an apology from the White House, but later said he would settle for a clarification. “When you make a casual, although not malevolent remark, it can have ramifications which affect the industry as well as all of the citizens who live in southern Nevada,” he told the Associated Press.

Obama's Las Vegas Remark Inflames Industry | BNET Travel Blog | BNET


Yet it's okay for Obama to go to NYC and Hawaii on the taxpayer's dime, and for Nancy Pelosi to commandeer a jet filled with top shell liquor on the taxpayer's dime.

Explain Pelosis' use of a jet.

 

[JScott]

As the OP title says "Obama has to learn to STFU".

You havent added anything worth discussing in this thread.

 

[asaratis]

Strawman hack? Ya that's me the dummie hack that thinks it might make sense for americans to think more intelligently on how they should spend thier money in a time when getting something for your money is critical.

I do not flinch from my comparison to gambling and crack.. Crack dealers spend thier money in the community also. I see no difference in casino owners and colombian cartel bosses. Both industries waste valuable resources.

So...you just classified them both as industries. Good for you.


Gambling is legal...drugs are not.

You do not have hotels, restaurants, bars, clubs and shops built around the crack industry...like I'm gonna go get a room at the Ritz in Detroit so I can go spend a few thousand dollars for a week's worth of crack house visits.

Getting back on topic...Your advise is foolish..the president's is not. Suggesting Obama has no right to suggest prudent spending is assinine.

I didn't leave the topic. You tried to do so.

The President's use of Vegas was foolish. Vegas is a city built on gambling. He took food out of the mouths of babes of hard working restaurant waitresses all over the city.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Asaratis is quarreling to quarrel, not to offer sensible comments. Focus on the topic, please.

 

[rightwinger]

So...you just classified them both as industries. Good for you.


Gambling is legal...drugs are not.

You do not have hotels, restaurants, bars, clubs and shops built around the crack industry...like I'm gonna go get a room at the Ritz in Detroit so I can go spend a few thousand dollars for a week's worth of crack house visits.

Getting back on topic...Your advise is foolish..the president's is not. Suggesting Obama has no right to suggest prudent spending is assinine.

I didn't leave the topic. You tried to do so.

The President's use of Vegas was foolish. Vegas is a city built on gambling. He took food out of the mouths of babes of hard working restaurant waitresses all over the city.

He did nothing of the kind.........The 2008 recession took food out of the mouths of babes around the country. Vegas suffered from its reliance on entertainment as its primary source of income.
For the President to suggest that people who don't have excess income should go to Vegas would be foolhardy

 

[JakeStarkey]

To suggest the President should not comment on appropriate resource management during a great recession would be at best incompetent and at worst almost treason.

 

[asaratis]

To suggest the President should not comment on appropriate resource management during a great recession would be at best incompetent and at worst almost treason.

To suggest that people do not patronize a specific city in the United States is beyond the pale for commenting on appropriate resource management during a great recession. This discussion is of Obama vs. Vegas.

 

[Oddball]

Given that he hasn't any experience whatsoever in resource management --or any other management for that matter-- he should indeed keep his alligator mouth shut on the matter.

 

[rightwinger]

Given that he hasn't any experience whatsoever in resource management --or any other management for that matter-- he should indeed keep his alligator mouth shut on the matter.

16 months as President of the United States doesn't amount to experience?


Tough crowd

 

[Thinman]

Obama has a lot of room to talk when it comes to spending.

 

[JakeStarkey]

To suggest the President should not comment on appropriate resource management during a great recession would be at best incompetent and at worst almost treason.

To suggest that people do not patronize a specific city in the United States is beyond the pale for commenting on appropriate resource management during a great recession. This discussion is of Obama vs. Vegas.

Focus, please. The president was talking about appropriate corporate spending, was he not? If you can't carry your argument, then move along.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Given that he hasn't any experience whatsoever in resource management --or any other management for that matter-- he should indeed keep his alligator mouth shut on the matter.

Projecting again, huh?

 

[Thinman]

To suggest the President should not comment on appropriate resource management during a great recession would be at best incompetent and at worst almost treason.

To suggest that people do not patronize a specific city in the United States is beyond the pale for commenting on appropriate resource management during a great recession. This discussion is of Obama vs. Vegas.

Focus, please. The president was talking about appropriate corporate spending, was he not? If you can't carry your argument, then move along.

Maybe you should focus, Jake. Conventions are corporate bread and butter. It is their best marketing tool. Obama killed two birds with one stone. Corporations, hoping not to incur Obamas' rath, scaled back convention activity. Las Vegas lost a large source of economic activity. Obama made a fast and loose statement and it was a mistake, but did he learn from it? No, because he knows that he never makes mistakes.