Biden’s BLS Overestimated Jobs Numbers by 1.5 Million

[struth]

The current administration said that they lost 250,000+ jobs. Are you going to pretend that didn’t happen too?

Why would I pretend that didn’t happen? We know the BLS was lying or just completely incompetent since the xiden admin

 

[Blaster]

If you call cleaning house shitting in all the rooms. The felon President is just what you fascists love.

Poor Democrats.

 

[Seymour Flops]

So what about Trump? Come on! Hold him to the same standard. If Biden did it, well so was Trump.

Correct! "Was" being the key word.

Not any more.

Now, he has made it clear that he won't tolerate this absurd deliberate reporting of figures that nearly always turn out to be wildly inaccurate.

He corrected his mistake of not getting rid of ALL Obama/Biden appointees.

 

[sealybobo]

Correct! "Was" being the key word.

Not any more.

Now, he has made it clear that he won't tolerate this absurd deliberate reporting of figures that nearly always turn out to be wildly inaccurate.

He corrected his mistake of not getting rid of ALL Obama/Biden appointees.

So you think it's better to wait 3 months before releasing a jobs report? I don't know about that. So right now we would just be seeing the May jobs numbers? I don't think so. Just know the number will be revised at a later date. We need this data. sooner rather than later.

Some would say it's good to get an estimate, even if it's going to change in a month or two once ALL the data comes in.

Bottom line is your entire thread is bullshit. And as you see, if Trump's jobs numbers were to be added up over 4 years, his number would be much much worse than Biden's. That's the only reason you and Trump are sour.

Whoever started this thread is an idiot because Trump's BLS overestimate jobs numbers by WAY MORE THAN 1.5 million.

Aren't you embarrassed? You should be. Trump is worse than Biden and yet you continue to sniff his crotch.

 

[struth]

So you think it's better to wait 3 months before releasing a jobs report? I don't know about that. So right now we would just be seeing the May jobs numbers? I don't think so. Just know the number will be revised at a later date. We need this data. sooner rather than later.

Some would say it's good to get an estimate, even if it's going to change in a month or two once ALL the data comes in.

Bottom line is your entire thread is bullshit. And as you see, if Trump's jobs numbers were to be added up over 4 years, his number would be much much worse than Biden's. That's the only reason you and Trump are sour.

Whoever started this thread is an idiot because Trump's BLS overestimate jobs numbers by WAY MORE THAN 1.5 million.

Aren't you embarrassed? You should be. Trump is worse than Biden and yet you continue to sniff his crotch.

I think it’s better to release an accurate or as accurate as you can

The problem with the BLS under the Demafacist is they lied so bigly

We know that is a fact, your post is just deflection and speciation

 

[Blaster]

So you think it's better to wait 3 months before releasing a jobs report? I don't know about that. So right now we would just be seeing the May jobs numbers? I don't think so. Just know the number will be revised at a later date. We need this data. sooner rather than later.

Some would say it's good to get an estimate, even if it's going to change in a month or two once ALL the data comes in.

Bottom line is your entire thread is bullshit. And as you see, if Trump's jobs numbers were to be added up over 4 years, his number would be much much worse than Biden's. That's the only reason you and Trump are sour.

Whoever started this thread is an idiot because Trump's BLS overestimate jobs numbers by WAY MORE THAN 1.5 million.

Aren't you embarrassed? You should be. Trump is worse than Biden and yet you continue to sniff his crotch.

Why release a report monthly?

 

[sealybobo]

I think it’s better to release an accurate or as accurate as you can

The problem with the BLS under the Demafacist is they lied so bigly

We know that is a fact, your post is just deflection and speciation

Of course we would all love an accurate number immediately but for some reason, that's not possible. So we all agree, it's better to see/know the accurate number. Or as accurate as we can be. And we do that. If you and Trump have a way of doing that in the next month please share. You don't. You're just embarrassed about your shitty jobs numbers. That's the reality. Trump is not doing a good job no matter how much you say he is.

What do you mean we lied so bigly? Trump's lie is even biglier

The revisions for May and June 2025 were unusually large, with May's preliminary estimate revised downwards by 86% to 19,000 jobs, and June's by a considerable amount as well. This led to a net downward revision of 258,000 jobs over the two months.

That's 130,000 jobs a month. Multiply that by 4 years and what do you get? 6,240,000 jobs. That's a lot worse than Biden's 1.5 million. Isn't it? I mean I know Trump tells you he can lower prices by 1000% and you believe him so maybe you don't know 6 million is worse than 1.5 million.

 

[sealybobo]

Now we know the truth.

And this is why the head of BLS was fired by President Trump.

All Democratic Party lies, all the time. Aided and abetted by the MSM.

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The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) under Joe Biden overestimated the number of jobs added by 1.5 million, according to a pro-Trump economist.​

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Controversy erupted this month after Donald Trump fired Erika McEntarfer, the Biden-appointed Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Regardless of the allegations that she deliberately tried to weaken the latest jobs report to make Trump look bad, anyone who’s been paying attention to the jobs numbers over the past few years understands that numbers were reported high, then quietly revised downward. Something shady has been going on at the BLS. That’s what economist Steve Moore is trying to emphasize.​

​

The Biden administration grossly overestimated job gains, and whereas real wages consistently went down under Biden, the opposite trend is emerging under Trump, based on the data Moore shared.​

​

It is also worth keeping in mind that, as of the start of 2024, the touted “job gains” were going to migrants, including illegal aliens, while U.S.-born men were facing disturbingly high unemployment. While big companies, hotels, and farming conglomerates hired illegal aliens at lower wages, Americans couldn’t find any of the jobs McEntarfer and Biden boasted about.​

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At an Oval Office presentation Thursday, Moore explained, “I called the President because I had some very good news from some new data that we've been able to put together … I was telling the President that he did the right thing in calling for a new head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, because this shows that over the last two years of the Biden administration, the BLS overestimated job creation by 1.5 million jobs.”​

​

To call it “a gigantic error” is an understatement. Trump jumped in to say he believes that the BLS under Biden deliberately manipulated the data, but regardless, McEntarfer obviously had a terrible track record.​

​

Moore continued, “We have access to some data that no one else does on what has happened month by month with median household income. This is based on unpublished Census Bureau data. It will be released sometime in the next six months, but we get an advanced look at it. And so I was telling the President, in his first five months in office, starting in January through the end of June, the average median household income adjusted for inflation for the average family in America is already up $1,174.” Trump proudly took the chart from Moore and showed it to the press.​

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Then, Moore moved on to compare data from under Biden and from under Trump in his first term. “We finally have the 2024 data on what happened with real family income in the United States,” Moore elucidated. “And so what I did was I compared the record in Donald Trump's first term with the Joe Biden first term.”​

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Even counting in the economic crisis caused by the Covid-19 lockdowns starting in the last year of the first Trump term, as of “2020 we saw a $6,400 real after inflation gain in income for the average family. And that compares with Joe Biden, which was a measly $551. So Mr. President, you get — you gained 10 times more income for the average family than Joe Biden did because of your policies,” Moore concluded.​

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As noted above, real wages went down consistently under the disaster of Bidenomics. But hopefully, a new era is dawning, and workers can look forward to a slowly strengthening economy and jobs market.​

Biden’s BLS Overestimated Jobs Numbers by 1.5 Million

Biden's BLS overestimated job growth by 1.5 million, sparking controversy and claims of manipulation.

pjmedia.com

So

1. We know that Trump's jobs numbers are off by over 6 million. Biden was only off by 1.5 million.

2. And this is the part I think you are missing. Biden added hundreds of thousands of jobs every month. So did Obama. Obama had positive jobs numbers for like 70 plus months in a row. How many jobs were added in May?

19,000 jobs

Pathetic. Well at least it's not negative.

3. That would explain this: Since the end of the Cold War (around 1989), the US created approximately 51 million jobs, with Democrats accounting for around 50 million of those and Republicans only 1 million.

 

[struth]

Of course we would all love an accurate number immediately but for some reason, that's not possible. So we all agree, it's better to see/know the accurate number. Or as accurate as we can be. And we do that. If you and Trump have a way of doing that in the next month please share. You don't. You're just embarrassed about your shitty jobs numbers. That's the reality. Trump is not doing a good job no matter how much you say he is.

What do you mean we lied so bigly? Trump's lie is even biglier

The revisions for May and June 2025 were unusually large, with May's preliminary estimate revised downwards by 86% to 19,000 jobs, and June's by a considerable amount as well. This led to a net downward revision of 258,000 jobs over the two months.

That's 130,000 jobs a month. Multiply that by 4 years and what do you get? 6,240,000 jobs. That's a lot worse than Biden's 1.5 million. Isn't it? I mean I know Trump tells you he can lower prices by 1000% and you believe him so maybe you don't know 6 million is worse than 1.5 million.

I understand some minor revision

But the xiden bls director was off massively. Either on purpose or incompetent

Trump was right to fire her

 

[sealybobo]

I understand some minor revision

But the xiden bls director was off massively. Either on purpose or incompetent

Trump was right to fire her

The Trump BLS director was off even more. You're just embarrassed that Trump's real jobs number from May or June was only 19,000. Let's not forget that fact huh?

Don't just say either on purpose or incompetent. Now you know it happens to every president. Now you want to stop releasing a monthly jobs report because it exposes what Trump is doing to this country.

Reminds me of the Bush years when you all said things were great leading up to the Great Recession.

 

[citygator]

Now we know the truth.

And this is why the head of BLS was fired by President Trump.

All Democratic Party lies, all the time. Aided and abetted by the MSM.

​

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) under Joe Biden overestimated the number of jobs added by 1.5 million, according to a pro-Trump economist.​

​

Controversy erupted this month after Donald Trump fired Erika McEntarfer, the Biden-appointed Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Regardless of the allegations that she deliberately tried to weaken the latest jobs report to make Trump look bad, anyone who’s been paying attention to the jobs numbers over the past few years understands that numbers were reported high, then quietly revised downward. Something shady has been going on at the BLS. That’s what economist Steve Moore is trying to emphasize.​

​

The Biden administration grossly overestimated job gains, and whereas real wages consistently went down under Biden, the opposite trend is emerging under Trump, based on the data Moore shared.​

​

It is also worth keeping in mind that, as of the start of 2024, the touted “job gains” were going to migrants, including illegal aliens, while U.S.-born men were facing disturbingly high unemployment. While big companies, hotels, and farming conglomerates hired illegal aliens at lower wages, Americans couldn’t find any of the jobs McEntarfer and Biden boasted about.​

​

At an Oval Office presentation Thursday, Moore explained, “I called the President because I had some very good news from some new data that we've been able to put together … I was telling the President that he did the right thing in calling for a new head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, because this shows that over the last two years of the Biden administration, the BLS overestimated job creation by 1.5 million jobs.”​

​

To call it “a gigantic error” is an understatement. Trump jumped in to say he believes that the BLS under Biden deliberately manipulated the data, but regardless, McEntarfer obviously had a terrible track record.​

​

Moore continued, “We have access to some data that no one else does on what has happened month by month with median household income. This is based on unpublished Census Bureau data. It will be released sometime in the next six months, but we get an advanced look at it. And so I was telling the President, in his first five months in office, starting in January through the end of June, the average median household income adjusted for inflation for the average family in America is already up $1,174.” Trump proudly took the chart from Moore and showed it to the press.​

​

Then, Moore moved on to compare data from under Biden and from under Trump in his first term. “We finally have the 2024 data on what happened with real family income in the United States,” Moore elucidated. “And so what I did was I compared the record in Donald Trump's first term with the Joe Biden first term.”​

​

Even counting in the economic crisis caused by the Covid-19 lockdowns starting in the last year of the first Trump term, as of “2020 we saw a $6,400 real after inflation gain in income for the average family. And that compares with Joe Biden, which was a measly $551. So Mr. President, you get — you gained 10 times more income for the average family than Joe Biden did because of your policies,” Moore concluded.​

​

As noted above, real wages went down consistently under the disaster of Bidenomics. But hopefully, a new era is dawning, and workers can look forward to a slowly strengthening economy and jobs market.​

Biden’s BLS Overestimated Jobs Numbers by 1.5 Million

Biden's BLS overestimated job growth by 1.5 million, sparking controversy and claims of manipulation.

pjmedia.com

This is verifiably false. 100%

If you estimated the temperature every month and were 1 degree off… you were not 12 degrees off for the year.

You math idiots have no idea. If you came to me with this analysis I would FIRE your ass in 3 heartbeats.

Either you think everyone is stupid so you think you can lie your ass off.. or you genuinely believe this and are stupid. Which is it?

 

[Seymour Flops]

So you think it's better to wait 3 months before releasing a jobs report? I don't know about that. So right now we would just be seeing the May jobs numbers? I don't think so.

Yes, better to see the May numbers now, with accuracy, than to see them on June 1st when they are little more than guesswork based on data known to be incomplete.

Just know the number will be revised at a later date. We need this data. sooner rather than later.

For what? What important decisions need be made with this incomplete data? In August, when we learn that the June 1st numbers for May were off by multiple standard deviations will their be an opportunity to turn back the clock and made different more informed decisions?

Some would say it's good to get an estimate, even if it's going to change in a month or two once ALL the data comes in.

If the BLS would announce each time it releases such premature numbers that "this is not based on actual data, we are still waiting on that. This is little better than guessing. Warning: make no decisions based on these numbers," and other such strong warnings, at least that would be more ethical.

No more useful, though.

Bottom line is your entire thread is bullshit. And as you see, if Trump's jobs numbers were to be added up over 4 years, his number would be much much worse than Biden's. That's the only reason you and Trump are sour.

Whoever started this thread is an idiot because Trump's BLS overestimate jobs numbers by WAY MORE THAN 1.5 million.

Aren't you embarrassed? You should be. Trump is worse than Biden and yet you continue to sniff his crotch.

If Biden's numbers were better than Trump, I won't deny it.

I would wonder why your party forced Biden out of the race in 2020, but I won't doubt valid statistics with complete data.

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, better to see the May numbers now, with accuracy, than to see them on June 1st when they are little more than guesswork based on data known to be incomplete.

For what? What important decisions need be made with this incomplete data? In August, when we learn that the June 1st numbers for May were off by multiple standard deviations will their be an opportunity to turn back the clock and made different more informed decisions?

If the BLS would announce each time it releases such premature numbers that "this is not based on actual data, we are still waiting on that. This is little better than guessing. Warning: make no decisions based on these numbers," and other such strong warnings, at least that would be more ethical.

No more useful, though.

If Biden's numbers were better than Trump, I won't deny it.

I would wonder why your party forced Biden out of the race in 2020, but I won't doubt valid statistics with complete data.

I don't know why for over a century we do it the way we do it. Why change how we do it now? Because it made Trump look bad? We want to know what the jobs numbers were last month. No one wants to wait 3 months. That'd be like me asking my company "how did we do last month?" and they tell me to wait 3 months. IDK? Investors, sales people, shareholders, planning, hiring, forecasting. There's lots of reasons I'm not going to investigate why we've done it this way for 100 years.

All I know is Trump's numbers were very bad. Don't distract us with trying to change how things are done.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I don't know why for over a century we do it the way we do it. Why change how we do it now?

invalid argument. Did you say the same about switching from a typewriter to a word procci g program.

Because it made Trump look bad? We want to know what the jobs numbers were last month.

Even if the numbers bear little resembkance to reality?

No one wants to wait 3 months. That'd be like me asking my company "how did we do last month?" and they tell me to wait 3 months.

Your company is goid at providing accurste numbers quickly. It they werent, people would lose their jobs?

Or are you saying that you would keep such an incompetent group of number crunchers?

inIDK? Investors, sales people,i shareholders, planning, hiring, forecasting.

All the more reason to change to having accurate figures.

There's lots of reasons I'm not going to investigate why we've done it this way for 100 years.

All I know is Trump's numbers were very bad. Don't distract us with trying to change how things are done.

Just as I thought: you are perfectly happy with inaccurate stats as long as they make Trump look bad.

You should have lead with that.

 

[sealybobo]

invalid argument. Did you say the same about switching from a typewriter to a word procci g program.

Even if the numbers bear little resembkance to reality?

Your company is goid at providing accurste numbers quickly. It they werent, people would lose their jobs?

Or are you saying that you would keep such an incompetent group of number crunchers?

All the more reason to change to having accurate figures.

Just as I thought: you are perfectly happy with inaccurate stats as long as they make Trump look bad.

You should have lead with that.

You make some good points. Yes, I would like more accurate numbers. Where do the inaccurate numbers come from? I think they come from "hospitality". I wonder how many people Mara Lago hired last month to work the "spa"?

See why being honest matters? When Trump over inflates his worth, and gets a loan based on that. Someone else might have got the loan if he was honest. I bet he reports bs jobs numbers. Or the new person he puts in charge. Fake GDP. Fake unemployment numbers. Rigged election. It's America's version of Putin. Hopefully age or the constitution will stop him. Or Americans wake up. But didn't the Supreme's just gut the voting rights act? Yup.

Since Citizens United, can't you guys see how the rich have taken over our country?

 

[Seymour Flops]

You make some good points. Yes, I would like more accurate numbers. Where do the inaccurate numbers come from? I think they come from "hospitality". I wonder how many people Mara Lago hired last month to work the "spa"?

Some number I suppose.

I would imagine most businesses prefer to spend their money on profit-making enterprise rather than providing numbers to BLS promptly.

Therefore, relying on voluntary self-reports will always lead to reporting that is late, sloppy, and often non-existent.

I figured that out when I first heard that BLS' excuse was that businesses reported poorly. Why did they not figure it out in decades?

It's a bi-partisan problem and when Trump got skewered by it, he decided to fix it.

No more fake labor stats from the bureau of labor stats. Both Trump and Biden got set up, on purpose or not, to look good and then look bad. We don't want that for presidents of either party.

See why being honest matters?

Being honest about honesty matters also. Example:

When Trump over inflates his worth, and gets a loan based on that. Someone else might have got the loan if he was honest.

Trump did not inflate his worth or "over inflate" his worth. If you can prove he did, tell me the proof. What a judge claims is not proof.

I bet he reports bs jobs numbers. Or the new person he puts in charge. Fake GDP. Fake unemployment numbers. Rigged election. It's America's version of Putin. Hopefully age or the constitution will stop him. Or Americans wake up. But didn't the Supreme's just gut the voting rights act? Yup.

Since Citizens United, can't you guys see how the rich have taken over our country?

Yes, same old arguments.

While you've been making those tired, talking point-based claims, again and again, Trump has been securing the border, putting The U.S. on an equal footing with trade partners, fighting crime in inner-cities, working to bring peace to both Europe and the Middle East, and getting rid of some of the worst criminals among the flood of illegals that Biden invited into the country.

I'll take that from a guy who exagerates when he braggs before I would have wanted four more years of Obama-Biden policies any day of the week.

 

[sealybobo]

Some number I suppose.

I would imagine most businesses prefer to spend their money on profit-making enterprise rather than providing numbers to BLS promptly.

Therefore, relying on voluntary self-reports will always lead to reporting that is late, sloppy, and often non-existent.

I figured that out when I first heard that BLS' excuse was that businesses reported poorly. Why did they not figure it out in decades?

It's a bi-partisan problem and when Trump got skewered by it, he decided to fix it.

No more fake labor stats from the bureau of labor stats. Both Trump and Biden got set up, on purpose or not, to look good and then look bad. We don't want that for presidents of either party.

Being honest about honesty matters also. Example:

Trump did not inflate his worth or "over inflate" his worth. If you can prove he did, tell me the proof. What a judge claims is not proof.

Yes, same old arguments.

While you've been making those tired, talking point-based claims, again and again, Trump has been securing the border, putting The U.S. on an equal footing with trade partners, fighting crime in inner-cities, working to bring peace to both Europe and the Middle East, and getting rid of some of the worst criminals among the flood of illegals that Biden invited into the country.

I'll take that from a guy who exagerates when he braggs before I would have wanted four more years of Obama-Biden policies any day of the week.

You want to know why they didn't figure it out sooner? Because it's not that big of a deal really. I think it became a big deal when Trump's number was abysmal.

During the Bush and Trump 1.0 years it was always hospitality jobs. And healthcare. I can believe healthcare but hospitality must report high to make Bush or Trump look good.

But then who's fudging the numbers for Biden?

 

[HikerGuy83]

I never have liked Biden nor have I ever liked Trump. Seems you are the only one who is emotionally invested in a politician and his party.

Learn how to comprehend what is being said so you can respond appropriately.

Also learn to be consistent.

You attacked someone as a MAGAat, clearly a pejorative. You didn't attack both sides. That might give you a clue as to the response you received. Your hidden little secrets are not available to us so they are not useful after the fact.

That, or be as stupid as the rest of the left on this board.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I NEVER trust anything coming from the government. They have few reasons to be honest and many to lie.

And they seem to lack integrity.

How is any of this a shock.

Everyone says "Trump lied".......like that's news ???

 

[Moonglow]

Learn how to comprehend what is being said so you can respond appropriately.

Also learn to be consistent.

You attacked someone as a MAGAat, clearly a pejorative. You didn't attack both sides. That might give you a clue as to the response you received. Your hidden little secrets are not available to us so they are not useful after the fact.

That, or be as stupid as the rest of the left on this board.

yer inability to read properly is yer problem, go play little ***** somewhere else.