Obama Could Learn From Hitler

[JoeB131]

With HenryB at the other knee.

Or on his knees...

 

[Jughead]

Any ''failure'' by O is due to mindless lying 50 per cent racist greedy Pubs and their idiotic hater dupes....but on the whole STILL a success, thanks, misinformed doucherags...

Acknowledging failure is a first step (as you did). Convincing yourself of success while still acknowledging failure is a sign of denial.

Sorry you missed it , living on total bs Pub world, lol. Did you hear about the 2nd Pub World Depression he averted, or the biggest social and economic reform ever...I didn't think so...

No, I didn't miss it, but I wish I could. Considering that median family income has been in a continuous downward spiral since Obama became President. Not to mention the mess with Obamacare where millions of Americans lost their health coverage. Refusal to support the Keystone project thereby denying Americans thousands of well paying jobs. The list goes on and on.

 

[BlindBoo]

Really? We have a Constitution unlike anything that existed in Europe and still, FDR constructed concentration camps for the Japanese Americans living here. I think you need to read a hell of a lot more history before you start making ignorant comments like that.

Statement of fact: "Hitler immediately destroyed the other Political Parties and ruthlessly crushed dissent within his own"

In 2009 did President Obama outlaw all other political parties and imprison and kill his opposition among Democrats?

Why did you poll vault to 1942? (Did FDR do the above in 1932?)

Deflect much?

Maybe you could bring up what Wilson did in WWI next, hmmmm?

No, he didn't because we do have a Constitution. He would have done it in a heartbeat had he been able to though. It takes a while to dismantle a individualist governmental system that was created by geniuses.

But, you collectivists have been working overtime to do it. Thankfully none of you are as smart as the Founders were so it will take a very long time to do it.

Unfortunately the history of Republics says eventually you will succeed, but hopefully we can delay you for a couple hundred more years.

So you're saying Germany didn't have a Constitution in 1933?

 

[Political Junky]

Acknowledging failure is a first step (as you did). Convincing yourself of success while still acknowledging failure is a sign of denial.

Sorry you missed it , living on total bs Pub world, lol. Did you hear about the 2nd Pub World Depression he averted, or the biggest social and economic reform ever...I didn't think so...

No, I didn't miss it, but I wish I could. Considering that median family income has been in a continuous downward spiral since Obama became President. Not to mention the mess with Obamacare where millions of Americans lost their health coverage. Refusal to support the Keystone project thereby denying Americans thousands of well paying jobs. The list goes on and on.

The median family income has been in a downward spiral since Reagan took office.

 

[Jughead]

Sorry you missed it , living on total bs Pub world, lol. Did you hear about the 2nd Pub World Depression he averted, or the biggest social and economic reform ever...I didn't think so...

No, I didn't miss it, but I wish I could. Considering that median family income has been in a continuous downward spiral since Obama became President. Not to mention the mess with Obamacare where millions of Americans lost their health coverage. Refusal to support the Keystone project thereby denying Americans thousands of well paying jobs. The list goes on and on.

The median family income has been in a downward spiral since Reagan took office.

Not on a yearly basis though. Since 1970, even with inflation factored in, every President has had at least the occasional year where the median household income has gone up, that is all except the current President. See rightmost column below.

http://www.davemanuel.com/median-household-income.php

 

[francoHFW]

So you DID miss the Bush Great Depression and 4 years of mindless Pub obstruction and phoney crises lol...

 

[Sawbriars]

Socio-political thinkers unfettered by submission to the power of the pejorative are the only ones you see on this board that have the ability to engage in analytical thinking of any significance.

Such labels as racist, fascist, communist, and reductionist have no power over us.

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In the meantime try and stick to the topic of this thread......how Adolph Hitler solved Germany's unemployment probem and could Obama learn something from how that was accomplished?

I think it time Obama's team brought in people that can think outside the box of constraints imposed upon them by political correctness. Desperate times call for desperte measures.....the longer the problem of unemployment festers the greater the desperation will grow and the more radical the solution must be.

 

[HenryBHough]

The highest function of language is to amuse.

English is by far the most flexible tongue ever to come along. Wonderful multiple meanings for words that sound the same but are spelled differently; are spelled the same but are pronounced differently due to context.

Plus the way English allows modification and amplification through the free-wheeling use of adjectives and adverbs; not all that common in other languages.

Please don't also get me started on puns!

 

[jasonnfree]

Hitler built the Autobahn? Are superhighways bad?

Hitler restored sovereign currency, as our own Constitution mandates. Does that make the Constitution bad?

Yes, examining Hitler's economic policies to break free of the Debt-Based Currency System (First and Second Banks of the United States and the Federal Reserve) may be a fruitful inquiry.

Hitler didn't manage to fight all of Europe (for many years) because he was a totally incoherent and unstable lunatic.

Hitler was a psychopath, a cruel and calculating demon. He had to do many things "right" in order to build Germany's economy in order to unleash the great HELL he had in mind. And like all LIBERAL MARXIST SOCIALIST PSYCHOPATHS, after he committed MASS MURDER and had no escape from JUSTICE, he shot himself, like Lanza.

Is a liberal marxist socialist all one and the same? Also you should take another look at Hitler. He persecuted trade union leaders and homosexuals also. A lot there for a republican to admire.

 

[Sawbriars]

"To deal with the massive unemployment and economic paralysis of the Great Depression, both the Roosevelt government in the US and Hitler’s government in Germany launched innovative and ambitious programs in 1933. Although Roosevelt’s “New Deal” programs helped only marginally, the Third Reich’s much more focused and comprehensive policies proved remarkably successful. Within three years unemployment was banished and Germany’s economy was booming."

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Hitler did in 3 short years what Obama has not been able to do and will never be able to do unless someone can educate him about what this economy needs and what needs to be done.

Obama's biggest problem is that he is so stupid he does not know where to look for answers or even understand and know who is competent to show him the way---he wallows in the tepid backwaters of political correctness mouthing stupid phrases designed to delude the masses by incompetent advisors .....Valerie Jarret being his most trusted advisor.....that speaks volumes and clearly indicates the nation will be lucky if it can survive 3 more years of Obama.

 

[HenryBHough]

I can think of circumstances in which Obama's bargain-basement actual IQ is a benefit to America.

 

[midcan5]

Jobs, you say....

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/220510-the-greatest-job-creator-of-all-time.html

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/280343-a-world-without-work-3.html#post6871448


"...In the United States large sections of the population were happily abandoned to illiteracy from the very beginning. Now new sections are added to this lumpen proletariat with each passing year. Everywhere one hears the elites saying to each other, in private: "Well, of course, they are not educable." There are endless statistics to confirm the already educated in their pessimism. Seventy-two million Americans are illiterate, the majority of them white. This doesn't include the functionally illiterate. One-quarter of American children live below the poverty level. Forty percent of children in public schools are from racial minorities. The whites who can afford to are slipping away into the private school system. Twice as many children are born to American teenagers as to those of any other democracy. But if you begin to add such facts as that forty million Americans do not have access to medical care, you are also obliged to wonder if the problem lies not with the population but with the elites, their expectations and their own education." p131 'Voltaire's Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West' John Ralston Saul

 

[jasonnfree]

"To deal with the massive unemployment and economic paralysis of the Great Depression, both the Roosevelt government in the US and Hitler’s government in Germany launched innovative and ambitious programs in 1933. Although Roosevelt’s “New Deal” programs helped only marginally, the Third Reich’s much more focused and comprehensive policies proved remarkably successful. Within three years unemployment was banished and Germany’s economy was booming."

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Hitler did in 3 short years what Obama has not been able to do and will never be able to do unless someone can educate him about what this economy needs and what needs to be done.

Obama's biggest problem is that he is so stupid he does not know where to look for answers or even understand and know who is competent to show him the way---he wallows in the tepid backwaters of political correctness mouthing stupid phrases designed to delude the masses by incompetent advisors .....Valerie Jarret being his most trusted advisor.....that speaks volumes and clearly indicates the nation will be lucky if it can survive 3 more years of Obama.

Same thing happened in USA when ww2 started. Unemployment went to zero. Proves stimulus does work.

 

[HenryBHough]

But war works better.

Stay tuned.

He has three years yet to monkey around with American lives.

 

[midcan5]

"To deal with the massive unemployment and economic paralysis of the Great Depression, both the Roosevelt government in the US and Hitler’s government in Germany launched innovative and ambitious programs in 1933. Although Roosevelt’s “New Deal” programs helped only marginally, the Third Reich’s much more focused and comprehensive policies proved remarkably successful. Within three years unemployment was banished and Germany’s economy was booming."

A little history, Sweden came out of the GD first.

Timeline of the Great Depression

 

[Moonglow]

The liberals seem to be saying it would be racist to solve America's unemployment problem......even if that is true?

So which is better for America....to be racist or to continue down the path that leads to more unemployment and economic suffering.........the end game of this trend being America consigned to the dustbin of history.

Time for those who are trying to solve our Economic problems to think outside the box.

Race has nothing to do with it. Hitler was able to nationalize industry. I doubt the big boys that own the nations industry would go for that.

 

[BlindBoo]

Socio-political thinkers unfettered by submission to the power of the pejorative are the only ones you see on this board that have the ability to engage in analytical thinking of any significance.

Such labels as racist, fascist, communist, and reductionist have no power over us.

If you are interested in exploring the important issues of the day without the limiting fear of words or labels, then consider yourself someone who can make a difference.

The function of language is twofold: to facilitate communication, understanding, and thought, or to prevent it. Truth seekers make no attempt either to be politically correct, or to offend, nor do we use language to prevent communication, understanding, and thought.

The moron's emotional responses on this board to the ideas and comments found in the posts of truth seekers are solely your own....deal wid it chumps.

In the meantime try and stick to the topic of this thread......how Adolph Hitler solved Germany's unemployment probem and could Obama learn something from how that was accomplished?

I think it time Obama's team brought in people that can think outside the box of constraints imposed upon them by political correctness. Desperate times call for desperte measures.....the longer the problem of unemployment festers the greater the desperation will grow and the more radical the solution must be.

I guess I'll have to assume you purposefully disqualified yourself from the "Socio-political thinkers". That's very tricky.

It has been answered. No. It would not be appropriate to outlaw opposing political parties. Nor would it be appropriate to purge the ranks of the remaining party of by killing those who are viewed as a threat. Nothing to be learned. We'll have to do something else. Although I suppose in theory if one were to follow in Hitler's' footsteps solving the unemployment problem would be minor, Just disenfranchise and entire group of people. Steal all their possessions and then work them to death as slave laborers. Outlaw unions and build an even bigger war machine.....jobs for everyone.

 

[Sawbriars]

Socio-political thinkers unfettered by submission to the power of the pejorative are the only ones you see on this board that have the ability to engage in analytical thinking of any significance.

Such labels as racist, fascist, communist, and reductionist have no power over us.

If you are interested in exploring the important issues of the day without the limiting fear of words or labels, then consider yourself someone who can make a difference.

The function of language is twofold: to facilitate communication, understanding, and thought, or to prevent it. Truth seekers make no attempt either to be politically correct, or to offend, nor do we use language to prevent communication, understanding, and thought.

The moron's emotional responses on this board to the ideas and comments found in the posts of truth seekers are solely your own....deal wid it chumps.

In the meantime try and stick to the topic of this thread......how Adolph Hitler solved Germany's unemployment probem and could Obama learn something from how that was accomplished?

I think it time Obama's team brought in people that can think outside the box of constraints imposed upon them by political correctness. Desperate times call for desperte measures.....the longer the problem of unemployment festers the greater the desperation will grow and the more radical the solution must be.

I guess I'll have to assume you purposefully disqualified yourself from the "Socio-political thinkers". That's very tricky.

It has been answered. No. It would not be appropriate to outlaw opposing political parties. Nor would it be appropriate to purge the ranks of the remaining party of by killing those who are viewed as a threat. Nothing to be learned. We'll have to do something else. Although I suppose in theory if one were to follow in Hitler's' footsteps solving the unemployment problem would be minor, Just disenfranchise and entire group of people. Steal all their possessions and then work them to death as slave laborers. Outlaw unions and build an even bigger war machine.....jobs for everyone.

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Hitler's treatment of the Jews had nothing to do with the economic miracle he accomplished in 3 short years.

What Hitler actually did to bring Germany out of the Great Depression......

Hitler introduced a number of measures that pulled Germany out of the Great Depression before any other major industrial power.

Firstly, an economic expert, President of the Reichsbank Hjalmar Schacht, was put in charge of the economy (none of the leading Nazis knew much about economics) as Minister of Economics.He decided to implement Keynesian economics on a massive scale.

He thus began a large Public Works program to reduce unemployment. The main manifestation of this was the building of the autobahns, the German motorway network.Work on the autobahns was deliberately made labour intensive, with as few heavy machines used as possible, in order to prolong the construction time.This meant more jobs were provided over a longer period of time.

Secondly, all materials needed for the Public Works program was ordered from German companies and factories, and not just the big corporations. Small and medium sized businesses, as well as big business, were given generous government contracts, enabling them to hire more workers to meet the orders, thus reducing unemployment even further.All German companies were also offered cheap government loans so they could modernize their machinery, shopfloors, and other equipment.Again, this provided more jobs as the companies ordered new machinery and equipment.

As for agriculture, farmers were also offered cheap government loans to buy fertilizers, tractors, livestock and everything necessary to modernize their farms and increase agricultural production.Once again, these materials and manufactures were purchased from German companies, meaning more jobs for Germans.

All this was paid for with MEFO Bills, a government credit note redeemable 5 years after its issue to the company or borrower; thus, anyone taking up the loans or contracts had,of necessity, to order what they wanted from German companies, which were ordered to accept MEFO Bills as payment.

All this reduced German unemployment to virtually zero by the beginning of 1936. The commensurate reduction in government expenditure on welfare payments as unemployment fell boosted government finances, as did the rapid increase in tax revenues as the number of those in employment rose.

All these things combined to get Germany out of the Great Depression. Rearmament WAS NOT a major factor in this - rearmament didn't begin on a wide scale under the Nazis until well into 1936, when the German economy was already out of depression,and was strong and healthy.


By far the best book on the German economy in the 1930s is Richard Overy 'The Nazi Economy' - readable, relatively short, and well researched.

 

[jasonnfree]

Socio-political thinkers unfettered by submission to the power of the pejorative are the only ones you see on this board that have the ability to engage in analytical thinking of any significance.

Such labels as racist, fascist, communist, and reductionist have no power over us.

If you are interested in exploring the important issues of the day without the limiting fear of words or labels, then consider yourself someone who can make a difference.

The function of language is twofold: to facilitate communication, understanding, and thought, or to prevent it. Truth seekers make no attempt either to be politically correct, or to offend, nor do we use language to prevent communication, understanding, and thought.

The moron's emotional responses on this board to the ideas and comments found in the posts of truth seekers are solely your own....deal wid it chumps.

In the meantime try and stick to the topic of this thread......how Adolph Hitler solved Germany's unemployment probem and could Obama learn something from how that was accomplished?

I think it time Obama's team brought in people that can think outside the box of constraints imposed upon them by political correctness. Desperate times call for desperte measures.....the longer the problem of unemployment festers the greater the desperation will grow and the more radical the solution must be.

I guess I'll have to assume you purposefully disqualified yourself from the "Socio-political thinkers". That's very tricky.

It has been answered. No. It would not be appropriate to outlaw opposing political parties. Nor would it be appropriate to purge the ranks of the remaining party of by killing those who are viewed as a threat. Nothing to be learned. We'll have to do something else. Although I suppose in theory if one were to follow in Hitler's' footsteps solving the unemployment problem would be minor, Just disenfranchise and entire group of people. Steal all their possessions and then work them to death as slave laborers. Outlaw unions and build an even bigger war machine.....jobs for everyone.

=========================================================
Hitler's treatment of the Jews had nothing to do with the economic miracle he accomplished in 3 short years.

What Hitler actually did to bring Germany out of the Great Depression......

Hitler introduced a number of measures that pulled Germany out of the Great Depression before any other major industrial power.

Firstly, an economic expert, President of the Reichsbank Hjalmar Schacht, was put in charge of the economy (none of the leading Nazis knew much about economics) as Minister of Economics.He decided to implement Keynesian economics on a massive scale.

He thus began a large Public Works program to reduce unemployment. The main manifestation of this was the building of the autobahns, the German motorway network.Work on the autobahns was deliberately made labour intensive, with as few heavy machines used as possible, in order to prolong the construction time.This meant more jobs were provided over a longer period of time.

Secondly, all materials needed for the Public Works program was ordered from German companies and factories, and not just the big corporations. Small and medium sized businesses, as well as big business, were given generous government contracts, enabling them to hire more workers to meet the orders, thus reducing unemployment even further.All German companies were also offered cheap government loans so they could modernize their machinery, shopfloors, and other equipment.Again, this provided more jobs as the companies ordered new machinery and equipment.

As for agriculture, farmers were also offered cheap government loans to buy fertilizers, tractors, livestock and everything necessary to modernize their farms and increase agricultural production.Once again, these materials and manufactures were purchased from German companies, meaning more jobs for Germans.

All this was paid for with MEFO Bills, a government credit note redeemable 5 years after its issue to the company or borrower; thus, anyone taking up the loans or contracts had,of necessity, to order what they wanted from German companies, which were ordered to accept MEFO Bills as payment.

All this reduced German unemployment to virtually zero by the beginning of 1936. The commensurate reduction in government expenditure on welfare payments as unemployment fell boosted government finances, as did the rapid increase in tax revenues as the number of those in employment rose.

All these things combined to get Germany out of the Great Depression. Rearmament WAS NOT a major factor in this - rearmament didn't begin on a wide scale under the Nazis until well into 1936, when the German economy was already out of depression,and was strong and healthy.


By far the best book on the German economy in the 1930s is Richard Overy 'The Nazi Economy' - readable, relatively short, and well researched.

Germany stopping the payment of war reparations helped also.

 

[Sawbriars]

The Nazi Economy by Richard Overy

War and Economy in the Third Reich - R. J. Overy - Google Books