Obama can't be prosecuted. You can thank Trump for that.

[Mac-7]

Conspiring to overthrow a president before he is elected? You're kidding, right?

We’ll see what the investigation uncovers

 

[Skylar]

He can, like Nixon, be named as an unindicted co-conspirator. All the impact without the drama.

Nah. If Gabbard had the irrefutable proof that Trump claims she had proving Obama committed sedition, a coup, election rigging, and treason....she would have presented it.

Instead, she spewed off a series of accusations that were red meat only to the MAGA base. No one else gave a shit, as this was an easily recognized attempt at distraction from the Trump administration's suppression of evidence linking Trump and Epstein.

 

[Skylar]

We’ll see what the investigation uncovers

Trump already overplayed his hand and obliterated what precious little credibility his administration had on this issue. He promised us Gabbard had irrefutable proof of treason, sedition, election rigging and a coup.

And instead, she presented a series of accusations backed by nothing that were red meat only to the MAGA faithful. While being a boring, droning bucket of jackshit to everyone else.

Worse, Trump has already demonstrated a willingness to fabricate fake evidence. As he did with his fake photo of an 'MS-13 tattoo on Garcia's knuckles'. This administration burned their credibility for kindling with their lies about the Epstein files. So who, other than the MAGA faithful, are going to give the slightest shit about this?

This is theater for morons. Legally, its pseudo legal gibberish. And as a distraction to the Trump admins suppression of evidence of Trump and Epstein, its a sad failure.

 

[pknopp]

Fox News says Obama can't be prosecuted.

Fox News Host Shuts Down Trump’s ‘Preposterous’ Epstein Diversions

Fox News host Jessica Tarlov shut down the Trump administration’s “preposterous” attacks on Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and others amid questions about the president’s relationship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. On The Five, Tarlov first dismissed co-host Kennedy’s suggestion that the...

www.yahoo.com

 

[SweetSue92]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

Congrats. One of your presidents is a traitor and the other was demented out of his mind.

 

[Skylar]

Fox News says Obama can't be prosecuted.

Fox News Host Shuts Down Trump’s ‘Preposterous’ Epstein Diversions

Fox News host Jessica Tarlov shut down the Trump administration’s “preposterous” attacks on Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and others amid questions about the president’s relationship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. On The Five, Tarlov first dismissed co-host Kennedy’s suggestion that the...

www.yahoo.com

Oh, obviously. From a legal perspective, this is meaningless pseudo-legal theater for fools to distract away from Epstein.

So much of this is just MAGA fan fiction. Where they want to play out their fantasies about Obama. He's been out of office for 8 years and he still lives in their head rent free.

And of course, whenever their Barack centered fever dreams pique, they always fantasize about Obama somehow ******* Trump again. Over and over. Each time in unique and interesting ways.

The MAGA movement is perpetually locked in a victim mindset. And usually head down, ass up.

 

[SweetSue92]

Trump already overplayed his hand and obliterated what precious little credibility his administration had on this issue. He promised us Gabbard had irrefutable proof of treason, sedition, election rigging and a coup.

And instead, she presented a series of accusations backed by nothing that were red meat only to the MAGA faithful. While being a boring, droning bucket of jackshit to everyone else.

Worse, Trump has already demonstrated a willingness to fabricate fake evidence. As he did with his fake photo of an 'MS-13 tattoo on Garcia's knuckles'. This administration burned their credibility for kindling with their lies about the Epstein files. So who, other than the MAGA faithful, are going to give the slightest shit about this?

This is theater for morons. Legally, its pseudo legal gibberish. And as a distraction to the Trump admins suppression of evidence of Trump and Epstein, its a sad failure.

Congrats, your last two presidents were: a demented puppet and a treasonous wretch.

This is what America sees, but why no one is talking about it is because we all KNEW. While you chewed off your own limbs over TRUMP

 

[Godboy]

The world? Obama's popular around the world. Trump is wildly unpopular anywhere outside Russia or Israel. Trump is a known liar around the world. We're routinely mocked across the planet for the foolishness of electing him. Trust and sentiment in the US has plummeted so hard under Trump that China is now more trusted and respected than the US among most of our own allies.

So who exactly is supposed to believe accusations against Obama backed by nothing? Only the MAGA faithful. Only the people that already hate Obama.

For everyone else, they already know that Trump lies constantly. And accusations from Trump backed by nothing means no more than Trump's fake photo of an MS-13 tattoo on Garcia's knuckles. Or Trump's desperate excuses about the Epstein files.

So......is that it? Even in your imagined scenario, Obama comes out beautifully. While Trump's legacy, internationally and domestically, is a horror show.

If this was "nothing", you wouldnt have an Obama spokesperson in the news trying to defend him. This story isnt letting up, so their weak protestations are obviously not working.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Fox News says Obama can't be prosecuted.

Fox News Host Shuts Down Trump’s ‘Preposterous’ Epstein Diversions

Fox News host Jessica Tarlov shut down the Trump administration’s “preposterous” attacks on Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and others amid questions about the president’s relationship with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. On The Five, Tarlov first dismissed co-host Kennedy’s suggestion that the...

www.yahoo.com

Tarlov is a left-wing hack hired by Fox to show they don't just hire right wing people.

 

[Skylar]

Congrats, your last two presidents were: a demented puppet and a treasonous wretch.

This is what America sees, but why no one is talking about it is because we all KNEW. While you chewed off your own limbs over TRUMP

Laughing......speaking of the poor, unfortunate souls who will accept whatever accusations Trump makes without anything to back them, we have SweetSue92!

There is zero evidence of 'treason', 'sedition', 'coups' or 'election rigging'. Gabbard didn't even mention them in her droning list of accusation.

But Trump said it, so Sue apes it. But the willingness to accept accusation backed by nothing doesn't create any legal liability or criminal consequence for Obama. Its just meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish to anyone but the MAGA faithful.

And with Trump's approval numbers underwater farther than any time in his 2nd term, America clearly doesn't like what Trump is offfering.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

The NY court unconditionally discharged Trump's charges. Those charges arose from actions prior to his election and not acts of the office of the president.

Why did the NY Court unconditionally discharge the 34 counts?

 

[Skylar]

If this was "nothing", you wouldnt have an Obama spokesperson in the news trying to defend him. This story isnt letting up, so their weak protestations are obviously not working.

Laughing.....their response was 3 sentences.

One of them pointing out the obvious: that this is a ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.

This is just theater for dipshits. And you're the audience. Trump is desperate for people to stop talking about Epstein because that's the story that isn't letting up.

 

[Godboy]

Laughing.....their response was 3 sentences.

One of them pointing out the obvious: that this is a ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.

This is just theater for dipshits. And you're the audience. Trump is desperate for people to stop talking about Epstein because that's the story that isn't letting up.

Listen lady, you can sell this horseshit to your dipshit brethren, but it isnt going to work on the rest of the world. Obama is the only president in US history that sabotaged the incoming president, and he did it with the slimiest smear imaginable. Obamas smear completely hamstrung Trumps first administration and NO ONE is ever going to forget it.

 

[Skylar]

The NY court unconditionally discharged Trump's charges. Those charges arose from actions prior to his election and not acts of the office of the president.

Why did the NY Court unconditionally discharge the 34 counts?

Because Trump was elected president and unconditional discharge was the only lawful sentence that didn't encroach on the office of the president.

What relevance does that have with anything we're discussing related to Obama?

 

[Skylar]

Listen lady, you can sell this horseshit to your dipshit brethren, but it isnt going to work on the rest of the world. Obama is the only president in US history that sabotaged the incoming president, and he did it with the slimiest smear imaginable. Obamas smear completely hamstrung Trumps first administration and NO ONE is ever going to forget it.

Obama is the only president in US history that sabotaged the incoming president.....says who? Backed by what evidence?

That's just a plain old begging the question fallacy, where your argument is dependent on us just assuming that your claim must be true. Despite the lack of evidence backing the claim.

And Trump already overplayed his hand on this one. Trump insisted that Gabbard had irrefutable proof that Obama committed treason, a coup, sedition and election rigging. Yet when Gabbard spoke at the news conference, she presented accusations backed by nothing. Just her droning on with sundry accusations affirmed by no actual evidence.

And she didn't even mention treason. Or a coup. Or sedition. Or election rigging.

If she had that evidence, she would have presented it. She made nothing but accusations. That's not 'irrefutable proof' of anything but Trump making up more stupid shit.

 

[Skylar]

Listen lady, you can sell this horseshit to your dipshit brethren, but it isnt going to work on the rest of the world. Obama is the only president in US history that sabotaged the incoming president, and he did it with the slimiest smear imaginable. Obamas smear completely hamstrung Trumps first administration and NO ONE is ever going to forget it.

What I find the most fascinating about this isn't the accusations against Obama. That's just meaningless pseudo-legal gibberish that barely warranted a 3 sentence reply.

But how central the victim mindset is to the MAGA movement. How fixated they are on fantasies about Obama. And how these fantasies, when piqued, manifest as Obama absolutely ******* Trump. Over and over.

"Obamas smear completely hamstrung Trumps first administration"

Do you not hear how cucky that sounds? How predicated on helplessness and emotional commitment to the idea of Trump being held down and completely fucked by Obama personally? Overpowered, outplayed, outmatched, so that even years later, even when Obama wasn't in power.....

......Trump was still completely hamstrung. Helpless. A victim.

The MAGA movement really should come with an 8-ball gag and pretty pink chastity cage. With sparkles!

 

[Lumpy 1]

It's kinda odd or is it that Democrat TDS-ers are so concerned with Epstein (the pimp for the wealthy including poiticians left and right). Who could possibly be surprised that Dem/Rep poiticians, Biden/Trump would release a list .. it's ridulous as well as political suicide.

Do Democrats really care that Biden policies created thousands of Pimpdons and child sex slavery all across America .. of course not .. they revel in the faithless playground.

 

[Skylar]

It's kinda odd or is it that Democrat TDS-ers are so concerned with Epstein (the pimp for the wealthy including poiticians left and right). Who could possibly be surprised that Dem/Rep poiticians, Biden/Trump would release a list .. it's ridulous as well as political suicide.

Do Democrats really care that Biden policies created thousands of Pimpdons and child sex slavery all across America .. of course not .. they revel in the faithless playground.

MAGA ran on releasing the list. And when in power, MAGA refused. Instead suppressing evidence of child rape and the sex trafficking of children to protect Donald Trump.

Y'all made this bed. And now you'll sleep in it.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Because Trump was elected president and unconditional discharge was the only lawful sentence that didn't encroach on the office of the president.

What relevance does that have with anything we're discussing related to Obama?

That was NY excuse. The acts were before his presidency and not an official act of the office.

 

[Skylar]

That was NY excuse. The acts were before his presidency and not an official act of the office.

That was the actual ruling.

And again, what relevance does this have to what we're discussing with Obama? The ruling referenced in the OP was specific to actions taken as president. As are the accusations that Gabbard and Trump made up.

If there is no relevance, then I'll pass on the sidetrack.