Obama can't be prosecuted. You can thank Trump for that.

[Lisa558]

He supposedly did it using his presidential powers. That's immune.

Staging a coup against the winner of the presidential election does not fall under “Official Duties.”

 

[Skylar]

Staging a coup against the winner of the presidential election does not fall under “Official Duties.”

Gabbard never mentioned any coup. Or sedition. Or treason. Or election rigging.

So what evidence do you have for a coup? Because every meeting that Gabbard cited most definitely was part of Obama's official duties.

 

[Lumpy 1]

MAGA ran on releasing the list. And when in power, MAGA refused. Instead suppressing evidence of child rape and the sex trafficking of children to protect Donald Trump.

Y'all made this bed. And now you'll sleep in it.

I don't recall that as top on my list and the rest was just silly.. You seem to have anger issues Skylar, maybe you need more sleep ..

 

[Lisa558]

Gabbard never mentioned any coup. Or sedition. Or treason. Or election rigging.

So what evidence do you have for a coup? Because every meeting that Gabbard cited most definitely was part of Obama's official duties.

Yes, she did. She said “coup” - and the evidence is the e-mails.

 

[Skylar]

I don't recall that as top on my list and the rest was just silly.. You seem to have anger issues Skylar, maybe you need more sleep ..

How was it silly? The Trump administration is refusing to release the Epstein files, where Epstein was a known pedophile and child sex trafficker. They have the files, which contains extensive evidence of child rape and child sex trafficking commited Epstein and others.

And they are refusing to release that evidence to protect Trump. With Trump's story changing almost daily, ripe with gaslighting, lies, and desperate attempts to distract. This entire thread is about one such attempt to distract.

Honestly, the Epstein files weren't really on my radar. But the amount of political capital that the Trump administration is willing to expend to keep them from being released is astonishing.

Now I want to know what is worth so much to Trump that he's willing to take this kind of political damage. No one is happy with the way he's handling this. He's farther underwater on his approval rating than any president in US polling history save himself. And its only getting worse.

I can only conclude that what the Trump administration is hiding in the Epstein files must be more damaging to Trump than what Trump has sustained so far. So what the **** is it?

 

[Skylar]

Yes, she did. She said “coup” - and the evidence is the e-mails.

What Emails? The document she released is 46 pages long. Be specific.

 

[Lisa558]

What Emails? The document she released is 46 pages long. Be specific.

Oh please. Get a grip. Obama was involved in the whole coup attempt.

 

[BULLDOG]

Congrats. One of your presidents is a traitor and the other was demented out of his mind.

And still another one is a 37 time convicted felon and rapist.

 

[Lisa558]

And still another one is a 37 time convicted felon and rapist.

- convicted of 37 manufactured felonies out of an expired mosdemeanor

- never convicted of rape

OTOH, your anti-American Obama is in it up to his eyeballs.

 

[BULLDOG]

The NY court unconditionally discharged Trump's charges. Those charges arose from actions prior to his election and not acts of the office of the president.

Why did the NY Court unconditionally discharge the 34 counts?

No idea. What does that have to do with presidential immunity?

 

[Skylar]

Oh please. Get a grip. Obama was involved in the whole coup attempt.

There are only 2 mentions of Obama ordering anything related to the the ICA. And neither have a thing to do with Emails.

Neither mention indicate that Obama ordered any addition to the ICA about Russia having a preference for Trump.

So where is the crime exactly? How would that be a coup? Or treason? Or election rigging? Or sedition?

18 U.S. Code § 2385 is the closest thing to a legal definition of a coup that exists in the U.S.C. And it specifically defines it as overthrowing or destroying the US government. How would a rewrite of the ICA about Russian interference in the US election in 2016 'destroy or overthrow' the US government?

Even by the wildly dramatic hyperbole of MAGA, this just doesn't make any sense.

 

[Lisa558]

There are only 2 mentions of Obama ordering anything related to the the ICA. And neither have a thing to do with Emails.

Neither mention indicate that Obama ordered any addition to the ICA about Russia having a preference for Trump.

So where is the crime exactly? How would that be a coup? Or treason? Or election rigging? Or sedition?

Did you listen to Tulsi yesterday? She outlined it all.

 

[BULLDOG]

Staging a coup against the winner of the presidential election does not fall under “Official Duties.”

You're funny. Dumb but funny.

 

[Lisa558]

You're funny. Dumb but funny.

IOW, you can’t refute my point, so you do the leftist thing: insult your enemy.

 

[BULLDOG]

- convicted of 37 manufactured felonies out of an expired mosdemeanor

- never convicted of rape

OTOH, your anti-American Obama is in it up to his eyeballs.

I'm sure that' the cult understanding of the situation.

 

[Skylar]

Did you listen to Tulsi yesterday? She outlined it all.

I'm reading the very documents she claims to be citing. And there 7 mentions of Obama over 46 pages. Only 2 have any relevance modifications to the ICA. And neither indicate that Obama ordered that the ICA include mention of Russia's preference for Trump.

So where is the sedition, or coup, or treason, or election rigging?

The evidence that Gabbard has presented to back her claim doesn't support any such charges. Let alone act as 'irrefutable proof' of any of them. And in some cases, how it could. The election rigging, for example. Obama ordered a rewrite of the ICA on December 6th with the rewrite complete weeks later. The election was already over. How then could it rig the election?

The claims just don't make sense.

 

[22lcidw]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

The real corrupted and disingenuous get away with crimes in the political environment. A growing percentage of African American males sees this. Trump is an alpha male. They understand that.

 

[BULLDOG]

Did you listen to Tulsi yesterday? She outlined it all.

Not the first time she spouted hair on fire bullshit. Even fox news says she is full of shit.

 

[Lisa558]

I'm sure that' the cult understanding of the situation.

You’re funny. Dumb, but funny.

 

[hadit]

Doubtful, but it doesn't matter either way. He's immune from prosecution.

Irrelevant. Bring all the evidence into the sunlight and let the people decide if the party should be punished at the ballot box and how much of his legacy should remain intact. Same with Hillary if she was involved as well. I do believe that would be a far worse punishment for them than a slap on the wrist fine and a lucrative book deal.