Obama can't be prosecuted. You can thank Trump for that.

[BackAgain]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

You didnt’t read the SCOTUS opinion or, more likely, you’re just too ignorant to understand it.

You are, of course, wrong. The behavior attributed to Onumbler clearly falls outside of the Presidential immunity described by SCOTUS. I’ll tell you why (and a great clue is found in the majority opinion itself):

It is NOT within the scope of any Constitutional duty or authority of a President to engage in a conspiracy to use the offices of our government to target an opposing candidate of another political party based on deliberate lies and concealed evidence.

Have one of your attendants explain it to you. Otherwise, get back into your straight jacket and padded cell, you psycho moron.

 

[Marener]

Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false.

But it wasn’t false.

It was confirmed to be accurate by the Mueller report and the Senate intelligence report.

 

[imawhosure]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

The presidents have always had immunity.

Indeed. Official actions are covered, dirty tricks are not. Ask Nixon, he knows.

As far as I know, Bullsh**......AKA Bulldog, has told you the truth.

Doesn't matter, lol! All those around OBYSMAL have no protection, hehehehehehehehehe. So when they sing, Obysmal won't go down, but he will in history be shown as a SUBVERSIVE, TREASONOUS, USLESS, President-)

 

[OODA_Loop]

But it wasn’t false.

It was confirmed to be accurate by the Mueller report and the Senate intelligence report.

CIA Director Brennan and the Intelligence Community misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele Dossier to assess “Russian plans and intentions,” which falsely suggested the dossier had intelligence value. The IC excluded “significant intelligence” and “ignored or selectively quoted” reliable intelligence that contradicted the ICA’s key findings on Putin’s alleged support for Trump, that if included, would have exposed the ICA’s claim was “implausible—if not ridiculous.”

 

[Marener]

CIA Director Brennan and the Intelligence Community misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele Dossier to assess “Russian plans and intentions,” which falsely suggested the dossier had intelligence value. The IC excluded “significant intelligence” and “ignored or selectively quoted” reliable intelligence that contradicted the ICA’s key findings on Putin’s alleged support for Trump, that if included, would have exposed the ICA’s claim was “implausible—if not ridiculous.”

That’s according to House Republicans. Not exactly an unbiased source.

The CIA reviewed the claim that Russia helped Trump and found it should have been moderate confidence instead of high confidence.

That’s what you guys are freaking out about.

 

[Delldude]

The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president.

Won't float here.

 

[Lisa558]

You guys don’t even really seem to know “what he’s accused of”

This all centers around telling the people that Russia wanted to help Trump. Which is true.

And you guys don’t even know what these “34 felony convictions” are for. The judge gave the jury options and told them they didn’t have to be unanimous.

 

[OODA_Loop]

That’s according to House Republicans. Not exactly an unbiased source.

The CIA reviewed the claim that Russia helped Trump and found it should have been moderate confidence instead of high confidence.

That’s what you guys are freaking out about.

Obama and his minions are the ones freaking out. It seems there is evidence out there that he directed the falsification of information against a political opponent to influence an election.

Those accusations from the NSA warrant further investigation.

Id be freaking out too.

 

[BackAgain]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

Wrong. Your substitution of your misunderstanding or the decision doesn’t alter the actual ruling.

 

[Marener]

And you guys don’t even know what these “34 felony convictions” are for. The judge gave the jury options and told them they didn’t have to be unanimous.

Of course I do. Convictions for false business records as Trump tried to launder money to Cohen and hide his affair in order to protect his campaign.

Any other easy questions?

 

[Marener]

Obama and his minions are the ones freaking out. It seems there is evidence out there that he directed the falsification of information against a political opponent to influence an election.

Those accusations from the NSA warrant further investigation.

Id be freaking out too.

The ICA in question was released in January 2017. How could it have influenced the election?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Of course I do. Convictions for false business records as Trump tried to launder money to Cohen and hide his affair in order to protect his campaign.

Any other easy questions?

Simply not true there were 3 specific charges, and the judge told the jury they didn't need to worry about that if anyone was true, they could convict no need to worry about find specific fault.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The ICA in question was released in January 2017. How could it have influenced the election?

The report covered information released during the run up to the election such as the Steele Dossier.

It is now known that information was fabricated and purposely left out contradictory information.

 

[Marener]

Simply not true there were 3 specific charges, and the judge told the jury they didn't need to worry about that if anyone was true, they could convict no need to worry about find specific fault.

The charge was falsification of business records and that was clearly true.

 

[Marener]

The report covered information released during the run up to the election such as the Steele Dossier.

It is now known that information was fabricated and purposely left out contradictory information.

The Steele Dossier was not in the ICA and not released by anyone in the administration before the election.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The Steele Dossier was not in the ICA and not released by anyone in the administration before the election.

A newly-declassified House Intelligence Committee report alleges that the Obama-era intelligence assessment on Russian election meddling used the discredited Steele Dossier to underpin its conclusion that Vladimir Putin aspired to help Donald Trump win the 2016 election, directly challenging the testimony of officials like CIA Director John Brennan, who denied that had happened.

Once-secret report confirms U.S. intel used Steele Dossier to push narrative Putin helped Trump

Declassified House Intel Committee analysis blasts tradecraft of Obama-era Russia collusion intelligence assessment, conflicts with Brennan's congressional testimony.

justthenews.com

 

[Marener]

A newly-declassified House Intelligence Committee report alleges that the Obama-era intelligence assessment on Russian election meddling used the discredited Steele Dossier to underpin its conclusion that Vladimir Putin aspired to help Donald Trump win the 2016 election, directly challenging the testimony of officials like CIA Director John Brennan, who denied that had happened.

The House Republicans cobbled together these allegations. It’s not very credible considering their inherent bias.

The Steele Report was included in the annex of the ICA that was classified and not publicly released. Nothing in the ICA was based on the dossier.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The House Republicans cobbled together these allegations. It’s not very credible considering their inherent bias.

So you just discount it because its House Republicans ?

 

[Kilroy2]

In its July 1, 2024, decision, the Supreme Court rejected the claim of absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for all official acts. However, the Court also rejected the government’s position that no immunity exists. In a 6-3 opinion authored by Chief Justice John Roberts, the Court established a new, multi-layered framework for analyzing presidential immunity claims. This framework creates a distinction between a president’s “official acts” and “private acts,” with only private acts receiving no protection.

Trump trying to go after Obama is laughable and would seem to be a private act. Also the president is not part of the judicial system. It is not his decision.

6 to 3 , Sounds like their was a split in the conservative leaning

I wonder how Clarence voted?

Trump could go down as the worst president in history.

 

[Lisa558]

Of course I do. Convictions for false business records as Trump tried to launder money to Cohen and hide his affair in order to protect his campaign.

Any other easy questions?

False business records are a misdemeanor. And “protecting his campaign” is not a crime.