Obama can't be prosecuted. You can thank Trump for that.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nope. That’s speech. Speech is not a contribution.

They didn't give his campaign something of value?

Are you sure?

 

[Marener]

A newspaper spends money on salaries and websites and printers to produce something that helped a campaign.
That's a campaign contribution.

But that contribution that helps the campaign doesn't need to be reported.

The legal standard for a campaign expenditure is spending that wouldn’t be made “but for” the campaign.

The newspaper would pay all of those salaries regardless of the story. Those people were not hired to help a campaign.

Unlike the NDA which wouldn’t have been made but for the purposes of the campaign.

 

[Marener]

They didn't give his campaign something of value?

Are you sure?

Speech is speech. See Citizens United.

You’re still missing the coordination and direction element.

 

[Rambunctious]

Again, you guys don’t really seem to know what you’re so upset about.

Why would Obama “go down” or Clapper worry about staying out of prison?

We aren't upset... justice will be served one way or the other... we won't be hearing from Obama again...his time is over...

 

[Marener]

We aren't upset... justice will be served one way or the other... we won't be hearing from Obama again...his time is over...

Oh so scary!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The legal standard for a campaign expenditure is spending that wouldn’t be made “but for” the campaign.

The newspaper would pay all of those salaries regardless of the story. Those people were not hired to help a campaign.

Unlike the NDA which wouldn’t have been made but for the purposes of the campaign.

The newspaper would pay all of those salaries regardless of the story. Those people were not hired to help a campaign.

The paper paid them. They helped Biden's campaign. That's a contribution.

Unlike the NDA which wouldn’t have been made but for the purposes of the campaign.

NDAs are signed every day that aren't campaign contributions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Speech is speech. See Citizens United.

You’re still missing the coordination and direction element.

Exactly! Newspapers never report their contributions. Lock 'em up!

 

[ThisIsMe]

Producing a national intelligence estimate is an official act.

That was easy.

Trying to sabotage a president isn't

 

[Marener]

The paper paid them. They helped Biden's campaign. That's a contribution.

Not by the legal standard.

NDAs are signed every day that aren't campaign contributions.

Totally true. Doesn’t change the fact that sometimes they are signed as part of a campaign.

 

[Rambunctious]

Oh so scary!

Your entire agenda of communizing the USA has failed... now get off your lazy ass and go to work...

 

[Marener]

Your entire agenda of communizing the USA has failed... now get off your lazy ass and go to work...

Do I know you?

 

[EMH]

This thread doesn't discuss how horrible you might think Obama is, or if he is guilty of treason. None of those thing matter. The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president. Can you think of a legal reason why trump was able to walk, but Obama should be charged?
If so, now is the time to educate us all. I look forward to your reasoned legal opinion.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

Just you wait until CO2 FRAUD comes out.

There, the charge is treason, and that one will end up with homO getting outed and punished...

 

[BULLDOG]

Just you wait until CO2 FRAUD comes out.

There, the charge is treason, and that one will end up with homO getting outed and punished...

You be sure to hold your breath till that happens, mmmkay

 

[EMH]

You be sure to hold your breath till that happens, mmmkay

Well...

Blackrock has divested from climate stocks
Bill Gates has defunded his climate activist group
There is no Million Moron March planned to protest Trump's "denialism", but maybe you can "fill the void" there


It doesn't seem the CO2 FRAUD is playing with a "full deck" since Trump won...

LOL!!!


Tell us again, what caused this??

The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?

Editor’s note on the following entry. On the very day that the following entry was posted, President Obama mentioned climate change for the first time in a long time in a speech at the Unive…

ethicsandclimate.org

:LOL!!!

 

[BULLDOG]

Well...

Blackrock has divested from climate stocks
Bill Gates has defunded his climate activist group
There is no Million Moron March planned to protest Trump's "denialism", but maybe you can "fill the void" there


It doesn't seem the CO2 FRAUD is playing with a "full deck" since Trump won...

LOL!!!


Tell us again, what caused this??

The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?

Editor’s note on the following entry. On the very day that the following entry was posted, President Obama mentioned climate change for the first time in a long time in a speech at the Unive…

ethicsandclimate.org

:LOL!!!

Bill Gate remains as dedicated to climate change issues, but due to the political climate under trump, he is changing his tactics. The amount of his funding for the issue hasn't changed.

 

[popscottpopscott]

BULLDOG

"The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president."
The SCOTUS ruling did not give presidents immunity to treason..

The SCOTUS ruling
Former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for acts within their core constitutional authority, such as communicating with DOJ or issuing pardons.

They are entitled to presumptive immunity for other official acts within the broader scope of their duties, though these may be subject to prosecution if the government rebuts the presumption.

There is no immunity for unofficial acts, meaning personal or political activities outside the scope of official responsibilities.

 

[Lisa558]

Bill Gate remains as dedicated to climate change issues, but due to the political climate under trump, he is changing his tactics. The amount of his funding for the issue hasn't changed.

He’d do more good spending that money on needy children.

 

[Lisa558]

BULLDOG

"The SC granted trump, and all presidents immunity from prosecution for anything that can remotely be tied to his powers as president."
The SCOTUS ruling did not give presidents immunity to treason..

The SCOTUS ruling
Former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for acts within their core constitutional authority, such as communicating with DOJ or issuing pardons.

They are entitled to presumptive immunity for other official acts within the broader scope of their duties, though these may be subject to prosecution if the government rebuts the presumption.

There is no immunity for unofficial acts, meaning personal or political activities outside the scope of official responsibilities.

Of course that’s true. The libs just use this to scare people into thinking “King Hitler” can get away with whatever he wants.

 

[BULLDOG]

He’d do more good spending that money on needy children.

He spends lots of money on starving children

 

[dudmuck]

Well...

Blackrock has divested from climate stocks
Bill Gates has defunded his climate activist group
There is no Million Moron March planned to protest Trump's "denialism", but maybe you can "fill the void" there


It doesn't seem the CO2 FRAUD is playing with a "full deck" since Trump won...

LOL!!!


Tell us again, what caused this??

The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?

Editor’s note on the following entry. On the very day that the following entry was posted, President Obama mentioned climate change for the first time in a long time in a speech at the Unive…

ethicsandclimate.org

:LOL!!!

since that "silence from Obama" was from 2012, in the following years there was the clean power plan, other efforts such as plan to increase vehicle fuel economy and obama's joint plan with china to reduce emissions.