Obama blames the rise of the machines for high unemployment.

I'm not gonna bother inserting myself into your conversations with quotes but I will say this. Why is the left so opposed to staying current with your education to the point that your marketable?

A) they prefer stagnation?

B) they prefer keeping their constituents dumb and needy?

And don't give me any of that have you ever worked IT BS. It's as if you have your industry on some kind of pedestal and no other industry is hurting in this economy. Every industry changes over time.

No one is saying that.

What people are saying is that... while some people may have the brainpower to aquire the skills of which you speak... other people don't and never will. So what you are saying is that even if EVERYONE relies on ROADS for their transportation needs(no matter how smart or dumb they may be), People who work on ROADS don't deserve a living wage because "anyone can do it".

I call you an elitist at the suggestion.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm no elitist, I'm a realist. And I realize that the govt can't fix everything for everyone. Nor should it strive to do that. That would simply kill innovation and make too much of the population reliant on everyone but themselves.
 
Yes because these companies don't employ anyone:


HEWLETT PACKARD CO

INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORP (IBM)

DELL, INC.

MICROSOFT CORP

INTEL CORPORATION

MOTOROLA INC

INGRAM MICRO INC.

CISCO SYSTEMS INC

APPLE INC

ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS CORPORATION

ORACLE CORP

GOOGLE INC

COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION

SUN MICROSYSTEMS INC

TEXAS INSTRUMENTS INC

EMC CORP

SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY

EASTMAN KODAK CO

APPLIED MATERIALS, INC.

SAIC, INC.

SONIC AUTOMOTIVE, INC.

VIRGIN MEDIA INC.

KEYCORP

AUTOMATIC DATA PROCESSING, INC.

SYNNEX CORPORATION

YAHOO! INC

ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES, INC.

SYMANTEC CORP

AFFILIATED COMPUTER SERVICES, INC.

UNISYS CORP

MICRON TECHNOLOGY INC

WESTERN DIGITAL CORPORATION

AGILENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC.

AVAYA INC.

DISCOVER FINANCIAL SERVICES

ROCKWELL AUTOMATION, INC.

LEXMARK INTERNATIONAL, INC.

NCR CORP

INSIGHT ENTERPRISES, INC.

LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, INC.

IKON OFFICE SOLUTIONS, INC.

NVIDIA CORPORATION

CA, INC.

FISERV, INC.

SANDISK CORPORATION

BROADCOM CORPORATION

KINGSTON TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, INC.

ZIONS BANCORPORATION

ADOBE SYSTEMS INC

ELECTRONIC ARTS INC.

DIEBOLD, INC.

NETWORK APPLIANCE, INC.

CONVERGYS CORPORATION

JUNIPER NETWORKS, INC.

VISHAY INTERTECHNOLOGY, INC.

AMKOR TECHNOLOGY, INC.

IRON MOUNTAIN INCORPORATED

INTUIT INC.

PEROT SYSTEMS CORPORATION

LSI CORPORATION

LAM RESEARCH CORPORATION

ANALOG DEVICES, INC.

INTERNATIONAL GAME TECHNOLOGY

SPANSION INC.

VOLT INFORMATION SCIENCES, INC.

MOODYÂ’S CORPORATION

IMS HEALTH INC

COGNIZANT TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS CORPORATION

IMATION CORP.

IDT CORPORATION

CACI INTERNATIONAL INC.

NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

XILINX, INC.

AUTODESK, INC.

TOTAL SYSTEM SERVICES, INC.

BMC SOFTWARE, INC.

TERADATA CORPORATION

DST SYSTEMS, INC.

FAIRCHILD SEMICONDUCTOR INTERNATIONAL, INC.

ATMEL CORPORATION

CADENCE DESIGN SYSTEMS, INC.

CYPRESS SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

VIEWSONIC CORPORATION

NOVELLUS SYSTEMS, INC.

ON SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

PALM, INC.

CERNER CORPORATION

ACTIVISION, INC.

VERISIGN, INC.

ITRON INC.

MANTECH INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION

BEA SYSTEMS, INC.

JDS UNIPHASE CORPORATION

ACXIOM CORP

CITRIX SYSTEMS, INC.

HEARTLAND PAYMENT SYSTEMS, INC.

MCAFEE INC

SRA INTERNATIONAL INC.

3COM CORPORATION

ALTERA CORPORATION

BROCADE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS, INC.

TRIMBLE NAVIGATION LIMITED

EARTHLINK, INC.

COMPUWARE CORP

SYNOPSYS, INC.

TELETECH HOLDINGS, INC.

INTERNATIONAL RECTIFIER CORPORATION

CMGI, INC.
LINEAR TECHNOLOGY CORP.
VARIAN SEMICONDUCTOR EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATES, INC.
SCIENTIFIC GAMES CORPORAION
MICROCHIP TECHNOLOGY, INC
THQ INC.
TECHNITROL, INC.
SYBASE, INC.
RF MICRO DEVICES, INC.
BLACK BOX CORPORATION
QUANTUM CORPORATION
TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE SOFTWARE, INC.
IBASIS INC
NOVELL, INC.
AVID TECHNOLOGY, INC.
MENTOR GRAPHICS CORPORATION
FAIR ISAAC CORPORATION
CONEXANT SYSTEMS, INC.
MICROS SYSTEMS, INC.
LAWSON SOFTWARE, INC.
SALESFORCE COM INC
COMSYS IT PARTNERS, INC.
SKYWORKS SOLUTIONS, INC.
NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS CORPORATION
MAXIMUS, INC.
NETGEAR, INC.
SYKES ENTERPRISES, INCORPORATED
SYNTAX-BRILLIAN CORPORATION
BROOKS AUTOMATION, INC.
JACK HENRY & ASSOCIATES, INC.
AKAMAI TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
QUEST SOFTWARE, INC.
ELECTRONICS FOR IMAGING, INC.
AVOCENT CORPORATION
FEI COMPANY
QLOGIC CORP.
VERIFONE HOLDINGS, INC.
TIBCO SOFTWARE INC.
OSI SYSTEMS, INC.
F5 NETWORKS, INC.
RED HAT, INC.
CYMER, INC.
UNITED ONLINE, INC.
SI INTERNATIONAL, INC.
ZORAN CORPORATION
FIRST SOLAR, INC.
PROGRESS SOFTWARE CORPORATION
AMERICA SERVICE GROUP, INC.
FACTSET RESEARCH SYSTEMS, INC.
INTERDIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION
ECLIPSYS CORPORATION
TRIQUINT SEMICONDUCTOR, INC.
EMULEX CORPORATION
FORMFACTOR, INC.
METHODE ELECTRONICS, INC.
MICROSEMI CORPORATION
EPICOR SOFTWARE CORPORATION
FINISAR CORPORATION
ATHEROS COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
AXCELIS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
VEECO INSTRUMENTS, INC.
DIODES INCORPORATED
INFORMATICA CORPORATION
L-1 IDENTITY SOLUTIONS, INC.
NUANCE COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
STANDARD MICROSYSTEMS CORPORATION
JDA SOFTWARE GROUP INC
RACKABLE SYSTEMS, INC.
TRANSACTION SYSTEMS ARCHITECTS, INC.
ASPEN TECHNOLOGY, INC.
ARBITRON INC.
CABOT MICROELECTRONICS CORPORATION
SYNTEL, INC.
SILICON LABORATORIES, INC.
MANHATTAN ASSOCIATES, INC.
IOMEGA CORPORATION
TNS, INC.
COMPUTER TASK GROUP, INC.
RADISYS CORPORATION
SONUS NETWORKS INC.
INFOCUS CORPORATION
HYPERCOM CORP
APPLIED MICRO CIRCUITS CORPORATION
SPSS INC.
OPENWAVE SYSTEMS INC.
EMS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
IXYS CORPORATION
ARGON ST, INC.
ALLSCRIPTS HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS, INC.
PLANAR SYSTEMS, INC.
INTERSECTIONS INC.
TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS, INC.
BORLAND SOFTWARE CORPORATION

Considering only 6% of scientists are Republican. The Republican aversion to science and education. I suspect the majority of those working in those companies are Democrats.
Thought I would point that out.
 
YouTube - ‪Obama Blames High Unemployment on the ATM and Automation #atmfacts‬‏

YouTube - ‪Obama claims atms are killing jobs‬‏


Are you kidding? Look at all the jobs the machines create: invent, production, program with updates, maintain, market & sell, fill. Look at the money in production time they save us. All versus the 1 teller they "may" replace.
It's just sad that our president is so eager to excuse away his own inept policies that his excuse is just as pathetic as the results of his policies.

Sad excuse for his own Policies that are hindering any chance of Recovery and jeopardizing our Future. However that said, there is of course some truth to the premise. We have indeed lost many Jobs to machines, but what is the point of Crying about that, what are you going to do legislate that companies can not use Cheap Automation instead of Paid Labor? Really?
 
Yes because these companies don't employ anyone:


HEWLETT PACKARD CO

INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORP (IBM)

DELL, INC.

MICROSOFT CORP

INTEL CORPORATION

MOTOROLA INC

INGRAM MICRO INC.

CISCO SYSTEMS INC

APPLE INC

ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS CORPORATION

ORACLE CORP

GOOGLE INC

COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION

SUN MICROSYSTEMS INC

TEXAS INSTRUMENTS INC

EMC CORP

SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY

EASTMAN KODAK CO

APPLIED MATERIALS, INC.

SAIC, INC.

SONIC AUTOMOTIVE, INC.

VIRGIN MEDIA INC.

KEYCORP

AUTOMATIC DATA PROCESSING, INC.

SYNNEX CORPORATION

YAHOO! INC

ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES, INC.

SYMANTEC CORP

AFFILIATED COMPUTER SERVICES, INC.

UNISYS CORP

MICRON TECHNOLOGY INC

WESTERN DIGITAL CORPORATION

AGILENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC.

AVAYA INC.

DISCOVER FINANCIAL SERVICES

ROCKWELL AUTOMATION, INC.

LEXMARK INTERNATIONAL, INC.

NCR CORP

INSIGHT ENTERPRISES, INC.

LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, INC.

IKON OFFICE SOLUTIONS, INC.

NVIDIA CORPORATION

CA, INC.

FISERV, INC.

SANDISK CORPORATION

BROADCOM CORPORATION

KINGSTON TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, INC.

ZIONS BANCORPORATION

ADOBE SYSTEMS INC

ELECTRONIC ARTS INC.

DIEBOLD, INC.

NETWORK APPLIANCE, INC.

CONVERGYS CORPORATION

JUNIPER NETWORKS, INC.

VISHAY INTERTECHNOLOGY, INC.

AMKOR TECHNOLOGY, INC.

IRON MOUNTAIN INCORPORATED

INTUIT INC.

PEROT SYSTEMS CORPORATION

LSI CORPORATION

LAM RESEARCH CORPORATION

ANALOG DEVICES, INC.

INTERNATIONAL GAME TECHNOLOGY

SPANSION INC.

VOLT INFORMATION SCIENCES, INC.

MOODY’S CORPORATION

IMS HEALTH INC

COGNIZANT TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS CORPORATION

IMATION CORP.

IDT CORPORATION

CACI INTERNATIONAL INC.

NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

XILINX, INC.

AUTODESK, INC.

TOTAL SYSTEM SERVICES, INC.

BMC SOFTWARE, INC.

TERADATA CORPORATION

DST SYSTEMS, INC.

FAIRCHILD SEMICONDUCTOR INTERNATIONAL, INC.

ATMEL CORPORATION

CADENCE DESIGN SYSTEMS, INC.

CYPRESS SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

VIEWSONIC CORPORATION

NOVELLUS SYSTEMS, INC.

ON SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

PALM, INC.

CERNER CORPORATION

ACTIVISION, INC.

VERISIGN, INC.

ITRON INC.

MANTECH INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION

BEA SYSTEMS, INC.

JDS UNIPHASE CORPORATION

ACXIOM CORP

CITRIX SYSTEMS, INC.

HEARTLAND PAYMENT SYSTEMS, INC.

MCAFEE INC

SRA INTERNATIONAL INC.

3COM CORPORATION

ALTERA CORPORATION

BROCADE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS, INC.

TRIMBLE NAVIGATION LIMITED

EARTHLINK, INC.

COMPUWARE CORP

SYNOPSYS, INC.

TELETECH HOLDINGS, INC.

INTERNATIONAL RECTIFIER CORPORATION

CMGI, INC.
LINEAR TECHNOLOGY CORP.
VARIAN SEMICONDUCTOR EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATES, INC.
SCIENTIFIC GAMES CORPORAION
MICROCHIP TECHNOLOGY, INC
THQ INC.
TECHNITROL, INC.
SYBASE, INC.
RF MICRO DEVICES, INC.
BLACK BOX CORPORATION
QUANTUM CORPORATION
TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE SOFTWARE, INC.
IBASIS INC
NOVELL, INC.
AVID TECHNOLOGY, INC.
MENTOR GRAPHICS CORPORATION
FAIR ISAAC CORPORATION
CONEXANT SYSTEMS, INC.
MICROS SYSTEMS, INC.
LAWSON SOFTWARE, INC.
SALESFORCE COM INC
COMSYS IT PARTNERS, INC.
SKYWORKS SOLUTIONS, INC.
NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS CORPORATION
MAXIMUS, INC.
NETGEAR, INC.
SYKES ENTERPRISES, INCORPORATED
SYNTAX-BRILLIAN CORPORATION
BROOKS AUTOMATION, INC.
JACK HENRY & ASSOCIATES, INC.
AKAMAI TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
QUEST SOFTWARE, INC.
ELECTRONICS FOR IMAGING, INC.
AVOCENT CORPORATION
FEI COMPANY
QLOGIC CORP.
VERIFONE HOLDINGS, INC.
TIBCO SOFTWARE INC.
OSI SYSTEMS, INC.
F5 NETWORKS, INC.
RED HAT, INC.
CYMER, INC.
UNITED ONLINE, INC.
SI INTERNATIONAL, INC.
ZORAN CORPORATION
FIRST SOLAR, INC.
PROGRESS SOFTWARE CORPORATION
AMERICA SERVICE GROUP, INC.
FACTSET RESEARCH SYSTEMS, INC.
INTERDIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION
ECLIPSYS CORPORATION
TRIQUINT SEMICONDUCTOR, INC.
EMULEX CORPORATION
FORMFACTOR, INC.
METHODE ELECTRONICS, INC.
MICROSEMI CORPORATION
EPICOR SOFTWARE CORPORATION
FINISAR CORPORATION
ATHEROS COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
AXCELIS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
VEECO INSTRUMENTS, INC.
DIODES INCORPORATED
INFORMATICA CORPORATION
L-1 IDENTITY SOLUTIONS, INC.
NUANCE COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
STANDARD MICROSYSTEMS CORPORATION
JDA SOFTWARE GROUP INC
RACKABLE SYSTEMS, INC.
TRANSACTION SYSTEMS ARCHITECTS, INC.
ASPEN TECHNOLOGY, INC.
ARBITRON INC.
CABOT MICROELECTRONICS CORPORATION
SYNTEL, INC.
SILICON LABORATORIES, INC.
MANHATTAN ASSOCIATES, INC.
IOMEGA CORPORATION
TNS, INC.
COMPUTER TASK GROUP, INC.
RADISYS CORPORATION
SONUS NETWORKS INC.
INFOCUS CORPORATION
HYPERCOM CORP
APPLIED MICRO CIRCUITS CORPORATION
SPSS INC.
OPENWAVE SYSTEMS INC.
EMS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
IXYS CORPORATION
ARGON ST, INC.
ALLSCRIPTS HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS, INC.
PLANAR SYSTEMS, INC.
INTERSECTIONS INC.
TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS, INC.
BORLAND SOFTWARE CORPORATION

Considering only 6% of scientists are Republican. The Republican aversion to science and education. I suspect the majority of those working in those companies are Democrats.
Thought I would point that out.

Good thing your Suspicions are usually not the Truth. Unless of course you have some link that shows us they are all Democrats. LOL
 
Ahh but you do have something to gain by lying... as do we all... the hopes of influencing other people to our own agenda... for no investment at all(other than time).

It's called Cheap advertising. Once again, I am not calling you a liar or anything close to that. But For all those following this thread... remember something. Things may not be as they seem.

I could be full of shit in my dialogue just as much as Grampa may be in his.

That is very important in this method of communication. You have no idea who is corresponding to you. That's why it is very important to NOT rely on only one side's perspective. Read Huffington Post AND heritage.org. Watch MSNBC AND FOX News. Listen to both the Conservative side AND the liberal... and do not demonize one side for the other. We are all Citizens and we all care about our country and it's people. We just disagree on how to accomplish it.
 
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm no elitist, I'm a realist. And I realize that the govt can't fix everything for everyone. Nor should it strive to do that. That would simply kill innovation and make too much of the population reliant on everyone but themselves.

And I realize that Humongous Corporations and Wall Street kill more innovation and kill more Competition that the Government has done in the past 50 years(in this country, of course).

What you don't seem to get is that Corporatism is the "power behind the throne" so to speak.

Sure, we vote who we feel is right for the job, and hopefully... our candidate gets elected. But to those with almost ALL the resources? They don't give too much of a crap if it's one party or another. They own them all... because, quite simply... who has the money to finance INDIVIDUAL Campaigns... let alone... Primaries and such? No one... other than Big Business and Wall Street.

Sure, you may make your case about Unions... and they are legitimate... but if you take SEIU's PAC vs the whole Corporate Structure???? It's like pissing in the wind.
 
It amazes me how so many people have gotten this idea that it's someone else's responsibilty to provide a job for them. That they shouldn't have to come up with any ideas or put any effort into creating their own.

I've been unemployed. It sucks. (one of the reasons i dont know why anyone would want to retire). But you know what. If you don't put out any effort to create or find a job, you won't create or find one. It's not the President's responsibility to keep you employed. Nor is it the government's job to find you work. If they by some miracle actually do something that helps you then fabulous! But if you are always expecting someone else to give you what you want, youll never be happy or free.
 
I'd also point out that we aren't given the commandment that "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work unless your unemployed in which case you can take dont have to do anything till someone gives you something to do."
 
Ahh but you do have something to gain by lying... as do we all... the hopes of influencing other people to our own agenda... for no investment at all(other than time).

It's called Cheap advertising. Once again, I am not calling you a liar or anything close to that. But For all those following this thread... remember something. Things may not be as they seem.

I could be full of shit in my dialogue just as much as Grampa may be in his.

That is very important in this method of communication. You have no idea who is corresponding to you. That's why it is very important to NOT rely on only one side's perspective. Read Huffington Post AND heritage.org. Watch MSNBC AND FOX News. Listen to both the Conservative side AND the liberal... and do not demonize one side for the other. We are all Citizens and we all care about our country and it's people. We just disagree on how to accomplish it.

That's it? I give you a full and complete answer and that's it?
For the sake of your paranoia let's say it was all a lie. It's still founded in common sense.
Honestly, if you were just going to write it off like that why bother asking in the first place?
Do us a favor and just stick your head back in the sand. not everything is a conspiracy. And the fact that you can't handle the fact that someone from terrible circumstances could possibly pull themselves up without your precious handouts speaks volumes for your mentality. Sad......
 
Yes because these companies don't employ anyone:


HEWLETT PACKARD CO

INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORP (IBM)

DELL, INC.

MICROSOFT CORP

INTEL CORPORATION

MOTOROLA INC

INGRAM MICRO INC.

CISCO SYSTEMS INC

APPLE INC

ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS CORPORATION

ORACLE CORP

GOOGLE INC

COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION

SUN MICROSYSTEMS INC

TEXAS INSTRUMENTS INC

EMC CORP

SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY

EASTMAN KODAK CO

APPLIED MATERIALS, INC.

SAIC, INC.

SONIC AUTOMOTIVE, INC.

VIRGIN MEDIA INC.

KEYCORP

AUTOMATIC DATA PROCESSING, INC.

SYNNEX CORPORATION

YAHOO! INC

ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES, INC.

SYMANTEC CORP

AFFILIATED COMPUTER SERVICES, INC.

UNISYS CORP

MICRON TECHNOLOGY INC

WESTERN DIGITAL CORPORATION

AGILENT TECHNOLOGIES, INC.

AVAYA INC.

DISCOVER FINANCIAL SERVICES

ROCKWELL AUTOMATION, INC.

LEXMARK INTERNATIONAL, INC.

NCR CORP

INSIGHT ENTERPRISES, INC.

LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, INC.

IKON OFFICE SOLUTIONS, INC.

NVIDIA CORPORATION

CA, INC.

FISERV, INC.

SANDISK CORPORATION

BROADCOM CORPORATION

KINGSTON TECHNOLOGY COMPANY, INC.

ZIONS BANCORPORATION

ADOBE SYSTEMS INC

ELECTRONIC ARTS INC.

DIEBOLD, INC.

NETWORK APPLIANCE, INC.

CONVERGYS CORPORATION

JUNIPER NETWORKS, INC.

VISHAY INTERTECHNOLOGY, INC.

AMKOR TECHNOLOGY, INC.

IRON MOUNTAIN INCORPORATED

INTUIT INC.

PEROT SYSTEMS CORPORATION

LSI CORPORATION

LAM RESEARCH CORPORATION

ANALOG DEVICES, INC.

INTERNATIONAL GAME TECHNOLOGY

SPANSION INC.

VOLT INFORMATION SCIENCES, INC.

MOODYÂ’S CORPORATION

IMS HEALTH INC

COGNIZANT TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS CORPORATION

IMATION CORP.

IDT CORPORATION

CACI INTERNATIONAL INC.

NATIONAL SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

XILINX, INC.

AUTODESK, INC.

TOTAL SYSTEM SERVICES, INC.

BMC SOFTWARE, INC.

TERADATA CORPORATION

DST SYSTEMS, INC.

FAIRCHILD SEMICONDUCTOR INTERNATIONAL, INC.

ATMEL CORPORATION

CADENCE DESIGN SYSTEMS, INC.

CYPRESS SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

VIEWSONIC CORPORATION

NOVELLUS SYSTEMS, INC.

ON SEMICONDUCTOR CORPORATION

PALM, INC.

CERNER CORPORATION

ACTIVISION, INC.

VERISIGN, INC.

ITRON INC.

MANTECH INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION

BEA SYSTEMS, INC.

JDS UNIPHASE CORPORATION

ACXIOM CORP

CITRIX SYSTEMS, INC.

HEARTLAND PAYMENT SYSTEMS, INC.

MCAFEE INC

SRA INTERNATIONAL INC.

3COM CORPORATION

ALTERA CORPORATION

BROCADE COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS, INC.

TRIMBLE NAVIGATION LIMITED

EARTHLINK, INC.

COMPUWARE CORP

SYNOPSYS, INC.

TELETECH HOLDINGS, INC.

INTERNATIONAL RECTIFIER CORPORATION

CMGI, INC.
LINEAR TECHNOLOGY CORP.
VARIAN SEMICONDUCTOR EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATES, INC.
SCIENTIFIC GAMES CORPORAION
MICROCHIP TECHNOLOGY, INC
THQ INC.
TECHNITROL, INC.
SYBASE, INC.
RF MICRO DEVICES, INC.
BLACK BOX CORPORATION
QUANTUM CORPORATION
TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE SOFTWARE, INC.
IBASIS INC
NOVELL, INC.
AVID TECHNOLOGY, INC.
MENTOR GRAPHICS CORPORATION
FAIR ISAAC CORPORATION
CONEXANT SYSTEMS, INC.
MICROS SYSTEMS, INC.
LAWSON SOFTWARE, INC.
SALESFORCE COM INC
COMSYS IT PARTNERS, INC.
SKYWORKS SOLUTIONS, INC.
NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS CORPORATION
MAXIMUS, INC.
NETGEAR, INC.
SYKES ENTERPRISES, INCORPORATED
SYNTAX-BRILLIAN CORPORATION
BROOKS AUTOMATION, INC.
JACK HENRY & ASSOCIATES, INC.
AKAMAI TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
QUEST SOFTWARE, INC.
ELECTRONICS FOR IMAGING, INC.
AVOCENT CORPORATION
FEI COMPANY
QLOGIC CORP.
VERIFONE HOLDINGS, INC.
TIBCO SOFTWARE INC.
OSI SYSTEMS, INC.
F5 NETWORKS, INC.
RED HAT, INC.
CYMER, INC.
UNITED ONLINE, INC.
SI INTERNATIONAL, INC.
ZORAN CORPORATION
FIRST SOLAR, INC.
PROGRESS SOFTWARE CORPORATION
AMERICA SERVICE GROUP, INC.
FACTSET RESEARCH SYSTEMS, INC.
INTERDIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION
ECLIPSYS CORPORATION
TRIQUINT SEMICONDUCTOR, INC.
EMULEX CORPORATION
FORMFACTOR, INC.
METHODE ELECTRONICS, INC.
MICROSEMI CORPORATION
EPICOR SOFTWARE CORPORATION
FINISAR CORPORATION
ATHEROS COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
AXCELIS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
VEECO INSTRUMENTS, INC.
DIODES INCORPORATED
INFORMATICA CORPORATION
L-1 IDENTITY SOLUTIONS, INC.
NUANCE COMMUNICATIONS, INC.
STANDARD MICROSYSTEMS CORPORATION
JDA SOFTWARE GROUP INC
RACKABLE SYSTEMS, INC.
TRANSACTION SYSTEMS ARCHITECTS, INC.
ASPEN TECHNOLOGY, INC.
ARBITRON INC.
CABOT MICROELECTRONICS CORPORATION
SYNTEL, INC.
SILICON LABORATORIES, INC.
MANHATTAN ASSOCIATES, INC.
IOMEGA CORPORATION
TNS, INC.
COMPUTER TASK GROUP, INC.
RADISYS CORPORATION
SONUS NETWORKS INC.
INFOCUS CORPORATION
HYPERCOM CORP
APPLIED MICRO CIRCUITS CORPORATION
SPSS INC.
OPENWAVE SYSTEMS INC.
EMS TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
IXYS CORPORATION
ARGON ST, INC.
ALLSCRIPTS HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS, INC.
PLANAR SYSTEMS, INC.
INTERSECTIONS INC.
TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS, INC.
BORLAND SOFTWARE CORPORATION

Considering only 6% of scientists are Republican. The Republican aversion to science and education. I suspect the majority of those working in those companies are Democrats.
Thought I would point that out.

Good thing your Suspicions are usually not the Truth. Unless of course you have some link that shows us they are all Democrats. LOL

I didn't even bother with this laughable post until it got some traction. The companies I recognize on the list are downsizing or off shoring.

So much for "automation", eh?
 
It amazes me how so many people have gotten this idea that it's someone else's responsibilty to provide a job for them. That they shouldn't have to come up with any ideas or put any effort into creating their own.

I've been unemployed. It sucks. (one of the reasons i dont know why anyone would want to retire). But you know what. If you don't put out any effort to create or find a job, you won't create or find one. It's not the President's responsibility to keep you employed. Nor is it the government's job to find you work. If they by some miracle actually do something that helps you then fabulous! But if you are always expecting someone else to give you what you want, youll never be happy or free.

That's funny..it really is.

No one here is suggesting that.

But heck. How well has any society done when the gulf between rich and poor become extremely wide?

Feel free.

Let us know when and where such cultures have done well.
 
It amazes me how so many people have gotten this idea that it's someone else's responsibilty to provide a job for them. That they shouldn't have to come up with any ideas or put any effort into creating their own.

I've been unemployed. It sucks. (one of the reasons i dont know why anyone would want to retire). But you know what. If you don't put out any effort to create or find a job, you won't create or find one. It's not the President's responsibility to keep you employed. Nor is it the government's job to find you work. If they by some miracle actually do something that helps you then fabulous! But if you are always expecting someone else to give you what you want, youll never be happy or free.


No... it goes beyond that, slick. It goes into the realm of... "I can't pass a Civil Service Test and who are "they" to make a better living than me?"

All of us have the opportunity to become Public Employees who enjoy the benefit of Collective Bargaining.

Finally... I think it's bullshit... the idea that people don't put forth the effort to create of find a job. Prove that statement to me. Seriously. I want you to prove it to me... not with hearsay, not with "I've seen it for myself".... both of those things are easily dismissed in a legal setting, let alone an internet message board.

The truth is... very few people in this country is "expecting" to be given things. What people need is their jobs back that have been stolen from them by companies that support a Communist government over the Government that allowed them the very freedom that they abused.

I think they all ought to be tried for treason and deported to the country that they "fell in love with".
 
It amazes me how so many people have gotten this idea that it's someone else's responsibilty to provide a job for them. That they shouldn't have to come up with any ideas or put any effort into creating their own.

I've been unemployed. It sucks. (one of the reasons i dont know why anyone would want to retire). But you know what. If you don't put out any effort to create or find a job, you won't create or find one. It's not the President's responsibility to keep you employed. Nor is it the government's job to find you work. If they by some miracle actually do something that helps you then fabulous! But if you are always expecting someone else to give you what you want, youll never be happy or free.


No... it goes beyond that, slick. It goes into the realm of... "I can't pass a Civil Service Test and who are "they" to make a better living than me?"

All of us have the opportunity to become Public Employees who enjoy the benefit of Collective Bargaining.

Finally... I think it's bullshit... the idea that people don't put forth the effort to create of find a job. Prove that statement to me. Seriously. I want you to prove it to me... not with hearsay, not with "I've seen it for myself".... both of those things are easily dismissed in a legal setting, let alone an internet message board.

The truth is... very few people in this country is "expecting" to be given things. What people need is their jobs back that have been stolen from them by companies that support a Communist government over the Government that allowed them the very freedom that they abused.

I think they all ought to be tried for treason and deported to the country that they "fell in love with".

Why the hell should he goto the effort to answer your question when your just going to dismiss it straight away regardless of its validity?

I met you half way in my responses and even conceded your valid points only for you to completely dismiss mine.
 
Considering only 6% of scientists are Republican. The Republican aversion to science and education. I suspect the majority of those working in those companies are Democrats.
Thought I would point that out.

That must explain why they all give to Republicans.
 
It amazes me how so many people have gotten this idea that it's someone else's responsibilty to provide a job for them. That they shouldn't have to come up with any ideas or put any effort into creating their own.

I've been unemployed. It sucks. (one of the reasons i dont know why anyone would want to retire). But you know what. If you don't put out any effort to create or find a job, you won't create or find one. It's not the President's responsibility to keep you employed. Nor is it the government's job to find you work. If they by some miracle actually do something that helps you then fabulous! But if you are always expecting someone else to give you what you want, youll never be happy or free.


No... it goes beyond that, slick. It goes into the realm of... "I can't pass a Civil Service Test and who are "they" to make a better living than me?"

All of us have the opportunity to become Public Employees who enjoy the benefit of Collective Bargaining.

Finally... I think it's bullshit... the idea that people don't put forth the effort to create of find a job. Prove that statement to me. Seriously. I want you to prove it to me... not with hearsay, not with "I've seen it for myself".... both of those things are easily dismissed in a legal setting, let alone an internet message board.

The truth is... very few people in this country is "expecting" to be given things. What people need is their jobs back that have been stolen from them by companies that support a Communist government over the Government that allowed them the very freedom that they abused.

I think they all ought to be tried for treason and deported to the country that they "fell in love with".

Why the hell should he goto the effort to answer your question when your just going to dismiss it straight away regardless of its validity?

I met you half way in my responses and even conceded your valid points only for you to completely dismiss mine.

Where have you met me "halfway"? Be saying that people are "always expecting others to give them what they want"?... is that 'halfway"? Or was it that people aren't "putting in any effort to create/find a job"... perhaps that was it.

You see? That's the problem with you guys... you already have your mind made up.. so there IS NO reasoning with you. It's either your way, or "Commie Talk". There is no in between.
 
No... it goes beyond that, slick. It goes into the realm of... "I can't pass a Civil Service Test and who are "they" to make a better living than me?"

All of us have the opportunity to become Public Employees who enjoy the benefit of Collective Bargaining.

Finally... I think it's bullshit... the idea that people don't put forth the effort to create of find a job. Prove that statement to me. Seriously. I want you to prove it to me... not with hearsay, not with "I've seen it for myself".... both of those things are easily dismissed in a legal setting, let alone an internet message board.

The truth is... very few people in this country is "expecting" to be given things. What people need is their jobs back that have been stolen from them by companies that support a Communist government over the Government that allowed them the very freedom that they abused.

I think they all ought to be tried for treason and deported to the country that they "fell in love with".

Why the hell should he goto the effort to answer your question when your just going to dismiss it straight away regardless of its validity?

I met you half way in my responses and even conceded your valid points only for you to completely dismiss mine.

Where have you met me "halfway"? Be saying that people are "always expecting others to give them what they want"?... is that 'halfway"? Or was it that people aren't "putting in any effort to create/find a job"... perhaps that was it.

You see? That's the problem with you guys... you already have your mind made up.. so there IS NO reasoning with you. It's either your way, or "Commie Talk". There is no in between.

Where did I meet you half way? Your kidding right? Are you blind or just lacking reading comprehension? I'll placate you and highlight a few but I suggest instead of just stating your view then blindly disregarding mine, actually read it. This just proves my point that you didn't actually want to debate but rather just make your points mixed with thinly veiled insults.

Here ya go:

) I don't disagree that not everyone can lead and some must follow. And yes I do agree that the lobbying system is corrupt as are many of the politicians. But that doesn't leave us powerless



As far as your corporate welfare stance we agree. Unfortunately ending ethanol subsidies just failed to pass. I have yet to see how my congressmen voted but I will, and emails will be sent accordingly.


You can't preach to me about the needs of the disabled as my step-daughter has CP. I whole heartedly agree with a full safety net for those that can't take care of themselves. She had around 9 different spine, leg, knee, and neck surgeries before I met her mother. All paid for by uncle Sam.


Now after your done eating your words ill be waiting for a "real" response to our discussion.
 
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The people who work on roads deserve a free market wage like everyone else. Creating political unions excluding all the other people who are capable & willing to work on roads to earn a living is just plain wrong. Unless people succumb to your group think you exclude them from earning a living is just plain wrong.

Diversity creates, lock step PC group think destroys.


No, what you are saying is wrong. I live in PA. It is not a "right to work state" that you people love so much.... but is a state that recognizes collective bargaining as a legitimate ideology...... at this time.

Let me ask you something. real quick... What if the "Free Market... as you call it" deems a worker's worth at $1/hour, even though that is a ridiculous sum in the U.S.A.?

What is a person(family) to do? succumb to the idea that Chinese folk are working for that wage and deal with generational poverty, or demand better from the country that ALLOWED those entities to move offshore to help supplement the people displaced by their own profiteering?

All the apparel manufacturing left the country & you think road workers should be paid like kings. Road work can't be exported & will not go down to $1 an hour. It will drop to the average wage. Unions are currently a hiding place for people who could innovate or do more complex jobs that would advance society, but union employees will not because it would pay less than their low skilled union job.

All unions are good for is driving price inflation causing suffering for non-union workers.
 
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rise of the machines? wow. I thought this was only hollywood, but if berry says so, it has to be.
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Also ,let me say, ATM's where around long before berry was, and not did not cause a recession for almost 30 years before berry came along. Berry is wrong again, go figure.
 
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