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Right Helped Prepare the Way for Obama's Imperial Presidency

by Gene Healy

Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and author of The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power.

Added to cato.org on February 16, 2009

This article appeared in the DC Examiner on February 16, 2009


Over the last eight years, then-President George W. Bush repeatedly insisted that he was the sole constitutional "decider," free from congressional or judicial checks on his power.

He claimed the power to imprison American citizens as terrorist suspects for as long as he deemed necessary, tap Americans' phones without a warrant, and, through the use of the State Secrets privilege - -a doctrine that shields information related to national security - prevent the courts from testing the legality of those propositions.

In the last months of his administration, Bush behaved like a Roman dictator for economic affairs, deciding which companies would live or die with the $700 billion in taxpayer funds Congress had authorized the executive branch to commit.

On the campaign trail in 2008, Barack Obama promised that he'd take a different approach to presidential power. Last week, our new president faced his first serious test of whether he meant what he said.

He failed.

Last Monday, in a case alleging that the executive branch had broken the law by facilitating the torture of terrorist suspects, the Obama administration took the same position the Bush administration had; arguing that the State Secrets privilege didn't merely prevent the disclosure of sensitive pieces of evidence. It allowed the federal government to suppress the entire lawsuit and send the litigants home.

Civil libertarians have long looked to Obama to dial back Bush's extraordinary claims of executive power. But the notion that a man who ran as the reincarnation of JFK could be counted on to reduce the presidency's power and importance in American life always ranked among the most audacious of hopes.

Change eh!

Seems Obama is like Bush in more ways than Just spending way to much.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9983
 
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Right Helped Prepare the Way for Obama's Imperial Presidency

by Gene Healy

Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and author of The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power.

Added to cato.org on February 16, 2009

This article appeared in the DC Examiner on February 16, 2009


Over the last eight years, then-President George W. Bush repeatedly insisted that he was the sole constitutional "decider," free from congressional or judicial checks on his power.

He claimed the power to imprison American citizens as terrorist suspects for as long as he deemed necessary, tap Americans' phones without a warrant, and, through the use of the State Secrets privilege - -a doctrine that shields information related to national security - prevent the courts from testing the legality of those propositions.

In the last months of his administration, Bush behaved like a Roman dictator for economic affairs, deciding which companies would live or die with the $700 billion in taxpayer funds Congress had authorized the executive branch to commit.

On the campaign trail in 2008, Barack Obama promised that he'd take a different approach to presidential power. Last week, our new president faced his first serious test of whether he meant what he said.

He failed.

Last Monday, in a case alleging that the executive branch had broken the law by facilitating the torture of terrorist suspects, the Obama administration took the same position the Bush administration had; arguing that the State Secrets privilege didn't merely prevent the disclosure of sensitive pieces of evidence. It allowed the federal government to suppress the entire lawsuit and send the litigants home.

Civil libertarians have long looked to Obama to dial back Bush's extraordinary claims of executive power. But the notion that a man who ran as the reincarnation of JFK could be counted on to reduce the presidency's power and importance in American life always ranked among the most audacious of hopes.

Change eh!

Seems Obama is like Bush in more ways than Just spending way to much.

Right Helped Prepare the Way for Obama's Imperial Presidency
well, now that he actually has a clue what was being done and why, he knows if he does what he said on the campaign it would be a disaster

there are reasons why Bush did what he did and they were legit
 
Right Helped Prepare the Way for Obama's Imperial Presidency

by Gene Healy

Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and author of The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power.

Added to cato.org on February 16, 2009

This article appeared in the DC Examiner on February 16, 2009


Over the last eight years, then-President George W. Bush repeatedly insisted that he was the sole constitutional "decider," free from congressional or judicial checks on his power.

He claimed the power to imprison American citizens as terrorist suspects for as long as he deemed necessary, tap Americans' phones without a warrant, and, through the use of the State Secrets privilege - -a doctrine that shields information related to national security - prevent the courts from testing the legality of those propositions.

In the last months of his administration, Bush behaved like a Roman dictator for economic affairs, deciding which companies would live or die with the $700 billion in taxpayer funds Congress had authorized the executive branch to commit.

On the campaign trail in 2008, Barack Obama promised that he'd take a different approach to presidential power. Last week, our new president faced his first serious test of whether he meant what he said.

He failed.

Last Monday, in a case alleging that the executive branch had broken the law by facilitating the torture of terrorist suspects, the Obama administration took the same position the Bush administration had; arguing that the State Secrets privilege didn't merely prevent the disclosure of sensitive pieces of evidence. It allowed the federal government to suppress the entire lawsuit and send the litigants home.

Civil libertarians have long looked to Obama to dial back Bush's extraordinary claims of executive power. But the notion that a man who ran as the reincarnation of JFK could be counted on to reduce the presidency's power and importance in American life always ranked among the most audacious of hopes.

Change eh!

Seems Obama is like Bush in more ways than Just spending way to much.

Right Helped Prepare the Way for Obama's Imperial Presidency
well, now that he actually has a clue what was being done and why, he knows if he does what he said on the campaign it would be a disaster

there are reasons why Bush did what he did and they were legit

Ya Think? When Obama was first brought up to date on all national security issues, he probably started shitting his pants.
 
For those of you who were sanguine when Bush and Co. were expanding imperial Presidential powers, let me remind you that the above is why some of us objected so strenuously about that expansion of executive perogatives.

ANYTHING that any POTUS gets away with, becomes a RIGHT of every executive administration that follows.

This is, incidently, the most powerful argument for investigating what the Bush Admin had done.

If we find inappropriate expansion of executive powers, we can end it for this POTUS and all that follow.

Failure to prevent excesses in the executive legitimizes those activities for ALL TIME.

If you HATE what Obama is now doing, know that Congress' failure to pursue what Bush II did THEN is what is gaving OBAMA those permissions NOW.
 
We know, We know, it's not Obama's fault... he is just following the footsteps of Bush... It always goes back to Bush... :eusa_wall:
 
We know, We know, it's not Obama's fault... he is just following the footsteps of Bush... It always goes back to Bush... :eusa_wall:

Obama will out-Bush Bush. but the left will applaud him for it.
 
That s what you get if you promise to much. Which is the case with every democratic politician on this planet.

It seems also very handy to abuse his campaign slogan, "change". Now it is easy to attack Obama on everything he does the same as bush.


Bush (first seconds of the video):
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vaOp6A7PSM]YouTube - George Bush Top 10 Moments on David Letterman - click on "more info" link on right side of page![/ame]
Obama:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izMfZn_0xXg]YouTube - Obama Bumps Head on Helicopter[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5gYV613JrM]YouTube - Presidential Flubs - Bush runs into door and Obama runs into window[/ame]

And then you have some people who say: IS THAT CHANGE? :lol: :lol: :lol: (even more funny is that the people who say this are serious about it)


Obama behaving like Bush?
Sometimes he is behaving like bush but the majority of the time he is not behaving like bush (otherwise the republican hardcore fans here would be supporting for him instead of bashing on him, this is not yet the case).
 
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are you kidding, the ONLY reason Bush had ANY support was he wasnt as wacked out as Gore or Kerry
had you guys actually put someone else up that had any common sense, Bush wouldnt have won
 
are you kidding, the ONLY reason Bush had ANY support was he wasnt as wacked out as Gore or Kerry
had you guys actually put someone else up that had any common sense, Bush wouldnt have won

I was surprised Gephardt didn't do better.
 
In one month your side has come up with more inane attacks than we did in 8 years.:eusa_hand:

He didn't shit his pants and he didn't break the laws that Bush did. If he does back off investigating the Bush years, then I will be writing to the Whitehouse again.

Bush was below average in the intelligence area and the leadership skills. Rated 36 on the list of presidents is fitting for his legacy.

Eight years from now, when another dem is elected:lol:
 
are you kidding, the ONLY reason Bush had ANY support was he wasnt as wacked out as Gore or Kerry
had you guys actually put someone else up that had any common sense, Bush wouldnt have won

I don't know what you mean with "you guys" (I m not a democrat), but back on subject: Who would you have liked instead of them?
 
are you kidding, the ONLY reason Bush had ANY support was he wasnt as wacked out as Gore or Kerry
had you guys actually put someone else up that had any common sense, Bush wouldnt have won

I don't know what you mean with "you guys" (I m not a democrat), but back on subject: Who would you have liked instead of them?
well, in the 2000 MO GOP Primary i voted for Alan Keyes
and as Elvis brought up, Gephardt sure would have made it a lot closer, if that is even possible
i didnt like him, but he would have been liked by more than either Gore or Kerry
 

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