Obama: All this darned media is putting “pressure” on our democracy

[Zona]

A smart man doesn't watch "cradle to grave" systems worldwide collapsing and vow to implement it himself.

Jet Li rules.

 

[txlonghorn]

Could you imagine the left-wing nutters' reaction had Bush said this?

Bush doesn't even know what a ps3 or ipad is. Seriously. If he did, he would probably want his sheeple to dumb down, so there is no way he would ever say any of this.

I guess you have had his confession on this subject, eh? You certainly appear to know alot about people that would seem very difficult to know. But I guess if you're dumb enough to pretend you know everything....you dumb enough to believe everyone actually thinks you do.

 

[mudwhistle]

HEY, I think the Obama hatred has gone too far and IS hurting our country, and I think the whining little twits that make crap up just to get their obamaramadrama allocation in for the day ARE hurting our country....

Free speech is free speech and protected by the constitution if you are not lying....but if you are lying or not telling the whole truth, it is NOT protected speech....just in case you all did not know that....

Get to the larger issue.

Is our access to information a distraction or in reality is it empowering the people too much for government to accept.

It certainly is not Obama's or any politician's job to tell us what information is relevant is it?

He thinks it is.

He's really upset about all of that other stuff out there that gets in the way of his brain-washing.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Remember when Dissent Was Patriotic? What happened to that?

What the hell does that have to do with anything here? Was that a tourette's moment?

Well, I guess I misjudged you. If you can not see what that has to do with this thread, then you are by no means the intelligent, reasoning human being I thought you were.

This thread has nothing to do with whether or not dissent is patriotic. you're ******* daft.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Hampton University commencement speech has been reported by many media outlets. Obama did make the idiotic comments.

He is the most think-skinned whingy President in history.

think-skinned and whingy?

what language is that? Conservatopian?

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

A smart man doesn't watch "cradle to grave" systems worldwide collapsing and vow to implement it himself.

He does impiment it if he wants to collapse the current system and replace it with something that will "fundementally transform(ing) the unitied states of america"

 

[Jarhead]

What the hell does that have to do with anything here? Was that a tourette's moment?

Well, I guess I misjudged you. If you can not see what that has to do with this thread, then you are by no means the intelligent, reasoning human being I thought you were.

This thread has nothing to do with whether or not dissent is patriotic. you're ******* daft.

When in a debate and you resort to name calling, you are admitting defeat in a debate.

I accept victory. As I usually have when debating you.

And by the way, Obama was by no means referring to POSITIVE media coverage, so it has everything to do with dissent.

I suggest you re-evaluate.

 

[boedicca]

Net net:

Obama effectively used the alternative media to get elected, especially in the area of connecting with individuals and small donors.

Now that those who oppose his policies are being equally effective with that media, he wishes to control it so they have less access. Witness the recent bureaucratic overreach of the FTC in the name of "net neutrality", and the internet provisions buried in the Financial Reform Bill.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Well, I guess I misjudged you. If you can not see what that has to do with this thread, then you are by no means the intelligent, reasoning human being I thought you were.

This thread has nothing to do with whether or not dissent is patriotic. you're ******* daft.

When in a debate and you resort to name calling, you are admitting defeat in a debate.

I accept victory. As I usually have when debating you.

And by the way, Obama was by no means referring to POSITIVE media coverage, so it has everything to do with dissent.

I suggest you re-evaluate.

He was referring to dishonesty inaccuracy and infotainment. You don't know what the **** you're talking about.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Well, I guess I misjudged you. If you can not see what that has to do with this thread, then you are by no means the intelligent, reasoning human being I thought you were.

This thread has nothing to do with whether or not dissent is patriotic. you're ******* daft.

When in a debate and you resort to name calling, you are admitting defeat in a debate.

I accept victory. As I usually have when debating you.

And by the way, Obama was by no means referring to POSITIVE media coverage, so it has everything to do with dissent.

I suggest you re-evaluate.

Show me the evidence, verbatim, from the speech, that references dissent AND Obama's disapproval of it, or his labeling of it as unpatriotic.

 

[boedicca]

Here you go:

He bemoaned the fact that "some of the craziest claims can quickly claim traction," in the clamor of certain blogs and talk radio outlets.

"All of this is not only putting new pressures on you, it is putting new pressures on our country and on our democracy."

AFP: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here you go:

He bemoaned the fact that "some of the craziest claims can quickly claim traction," in the clamor of certain blogs and talk radio outlets.

"All of this is not only putting new pressures on you, it is putting new pressures on our country and on our democracy."

AFP: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

So the birthers are simply patriotic dissenters who shouldn't be criticized or refuted...

Okay...

 

[Jarhead]

This thread has nothing to do with whether or not dissent is patriotic. you're ******* daft.

When in a debate and you resort to name calling, you are admitting defeat in a debate.

I accept victory. As I usually have when debating you.

And by the way, Obama was by no means referring to POSITIVE media coverage, so it has everything to do with dissent.

I suggest you re-evaluate.

Show me the evidence, verbatim, from the speech, that references dissent AND Obama's disapproval of it, or his labeling of it as unpatriotic.

Evidence verbatim?

Sorry pal. I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

That is why I am always on my game and not being hit out of the blue from left field.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Here you go:

He bemoaned the fact that "some of the craziest claims can quickly claim traction," in the clamor of certain blogs and talk radio outlets.

"All of this is not only putting new pressures on you, it is putting new pressures on our country and on our democracy."

AFP: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

So the birthers are simply patriotic dissenters who shouldn't be criticized or refuted...

Okay...

no less so than the "patriotic" Kill Bush sign wavers.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When in a debate and you resort to name calling, you are admitting defeat in a debate.

I accept victory. As I usually have when debating you.

And by the way, Obama was by no means referring to POSITIVE media coverage, so it has everything to do with dissent.

I suggest you re-evaluate.

Show me the evidence, verbatim, from the speech, that references dissent AND Obama's disapproval of it, or his labeling of it as unpatriotic.

Evidence verbatim?

Sorry pal. I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

That is why I am always on my game and not being hit out of the blue from left field.

Translation: You cannot produce ANY evidence from what the president ACTUALLY SAID that supports your contention that he was attacking dissent as unpatriotic.

So like I said before, making a reference to dissent and patriotism in a manner designed to attack the president had NOTHING to do with this topic.

 

[Jarhead]

Show me the evidence, verbatim, from the speech, that references dissent AND Obama's disapproval of it, or his labeling of it as unpatriotic.

Evidence verbatim?

Sorry pal. I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

That is why I am always on my game and not being hit out of the blue from left field.

Translation: You cannot produce ANY evidence from what the president ACTUALLY SAID that supports your contention that he was attacking dissent as unpatriotic.

So like I said before, making a reference to dissent and patriotism in a manner designed to attack the president had NOTHING to do with this topic.

No. That is how you opted to translate it. But that is not the valid translation.

What I said was:

I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

Seems I made it quite clear that I admit to reading between the lines and that he did not come right out and say it. And I further explained WHY I believe that.

You are having some serious reading comprehension issues today I see.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here you go:

He bemoaned the fact that "some of the craziest claims can quickly claim traction," in the clamor of certain blogs and talk radio outlets.

"All of this is not only putting new pressures on you, it is putting new pressures on our country and on our democracy."

AFP: Obama bemoans 'diversions' of IPod, Xbox era

So the birthers are simply patriotic dissenters who shouldn't be criticized or refuted...

Okay...

no less so than the "patriotic" Kill Bush sign wavers.

Now there's an endorsement...

...hey we're a bunch of stupid fucksticks but we're still better than the people who went around saying they wanted to kill Bush!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Evidence verbatim?

Sorry pal. I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

That is why I am always on my game and not being hit out of the blue from left field.

Translation: You cannot produce ANY evidence from what the president ACTUALLY SAID that supports your contention that he was attacking dissent as unpatriotic.

So like I said before, making a reference to dissent and patriotism in a manner designed to attack the president had NOTHING to do with this topic.

No. That is how you opted to translate it. But that is not the valid translation.

What I said was:

I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

Seems I made it quite clear that I admit to reading between the lines and that he did not come right out and say it. And I further explained WHY I believe that.

You are having some serious reading comprehension issues today I see.

You also seem to be scrupulously avoiding the 'patriotic' aspect of the irrelevant off topic outburst.

 

[Jarhead]

Translation: You cannot produce ANY evidence from what the president ACTUALLY SAID that supports your contention that he was attacking dissent as unpatriotic.

So like I said before, making a reference to dissent and patriotism in a manner designed to attack the president had NOTHING to do with this topic.

No. That is how you opted to translate it. But that is not the valid translation.

What I said was:

I use logic to understand what people are saying. Not the clean up men afterwards who try to explain what he meant.

Logically, he was obviously referring to those that show dissent....not those that want to grow flowers.

Seems I made it quite clear that I admit to reading between the lines and that he did not come right out and say it. And I further explained WHY I believe that.

You are having some serious reading comprehension issues today I see.

You also seem to be scrupulously avoiding the 'patriotic' aspect of the irrelevant off topic outburst.

No. I just dont see how it is not relevant. It is absolutely relevant.

Many such as myslef believes the President is referring to dissent.
So, I see it that he is claiming that dissent is putting pressure on democracy.
And seeing as a common phrase used by many Americans is "dissent is patriotic" then I can come to the basic conclusion, that Mr. Obama sees an act that many such as myself see as patriotic as a something putting pressure on democracy.

Cant say it any clearer than that. Anything you do to spin what I said will be futile.

I am entitled to my opinion and I clearly showed you how the patriotic thing is relevant as it pertains to my opinion.

Enjoy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I imagine that BHO wants the whackos on the far right to incorporate truth-telling in their dissent, something that Rushbo has not yet learned how to do. While I disagree with Olbermann and Maddow quite a bit, I know they don't lie. I know that Rush does, I know that Sean does not understand, and I know that Glenn has gone around the bend, thus Sean and Glenn do not bother me. Rush does, because he lies.