Oath Keeper unable to cope with being jailed.

[Crepitus]

You didn't see the insurrection?

Because there was a stolen election.

Where?

 

[lennypartiv]

America is not really a free country anymore.

If your elections can be stolen, you don't live in a free country.

 

[Orangecat]

Vladimir must be very pleased with you.

More pleased with you and your oral fantasies:

slurping on Putin's dick.

slurping on Putin's dick

sucking Putin's dick.

sucking off an evil guy.

sucked Putin's dick.

sucking Putin off.

 

[FA_Q2]

The government is charging him with deleting his Facebook page. Now in the end I expect this charge to be dropped but it's a common tactic of law enforcement. Charge someone with all kinds of things to get them to simply plead guilty to a few. That needs to stop. I see this as little different than what Sidney Powell is being sued over. Filing charges (or lawsuits) that have no merit.

Agreed.

You agree that Trump’s lawyer was filing frivolous lawsuits that have no merit?

I agree that the tactic of overcharging to pressure people into coping pleas is a common tactic and one that needs to stop.

Oh, that’s bad but frivolous lawsuits like Powell’s are just dandy?

Pknopp made a number of points, one of which I choose to agree with.

Not sure what part of this you are having trouble with.


Do you like it when prosecutors overcharge so they can terrorize people into pleading out, and giving up their Right to a Trial by a jury of their Peers?

If it gets them to cop a plea or roll over on someone bigger, yeah I'm okay with that.

Wow.

So it is okay for the person that essentially has absolute power over you, your life and your freedom to leverage that power in an attempt to avoid the justice system?

Did you even think about that before backing such?

 

[Oldestyle]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

If it were reversed you'd have no problem of course! Typical White guy who thinks he should be able to do whatever TF he wants with no consequences! If a Black or Mexican person jaywalks, you want their voting rights taken away! Very typical of this country and the a-holes who run it! Heaven knows it isn't as equal as we BS the world with!

As I stated earlier EVERYONE should be concerned when American's are not longer receiving equal protection under the law and that includes myself! It's wrong if it's liberals that are receiving preferential treatment...it's wrong if conservatives are receiving preferential treatment! You can't grant bail for one group and then deny it for another for the same crime.

Americans have NEVER had equal protection under the law. But to equate what happened on January 6th with the racial unrest last summer is WRONG. They are NOT THE SAME CRIME. Not even in the same ballpark.

I couldn't agree more! The riots that took place all last year were far more destructive than the very brief riot at the Capital! They really AREN'T in the same ballpark...yet the left is trying to claim that they shook American democracy to it's very core!!!!! Which is laughable! Congress was back in session in chambers the very next day!

Wrong Troglodyte, Congress was back in session that night to finish what they started! The election was certified notwithstanding objections of Cruz and Hawley! It didn't stop Republican Party from embarrassing themselves and the country further by continuing to propagate that LIE about voter fraud, making out Trump was robbed! I pray no one w/b stupid enough to say something like that to my face; I might lose it!

So the "riot" didn't even cause enough damage to keep Congress closed for a day? Some riot! Meanwhile you on the left have left blocks of our cities smoldering after months of riots. But it's the right that's guilty of an "insurrection"? Then you wonder why nobody takes you seriously!

 

[Oldestyle]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

 

[Rigby5]

Don't cross the Democratic Gestapo!

Don't try to overthrow our government.

It was a minor, one day, media event, without any significant violence.
They should all have been out on their own recognizance long ago.

 

[White 6]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

View attachment 472383
You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

 

[FA_Q2]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

View attachment 472383
You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

Even you know this is bullshit.

You build it because you are making a statement. Just like burning the flag.

 

[Oldestyle]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

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You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

It was a SYMBOL, White! All you have to do is take one look at that picture and you KNOW it wasn't built to really hang people! Stop embarrassing yourself!

 

[Rigby5]

So you admit

I admit nothing, you fool. You don't get to put words in people's mouths.

he's not a flight risk nor does he have a criminal record..

Then he will get his due process.

.but you claim he shouldn't be eligible for bail because he is charged with Federal crimes?

If it were up to me, he'd be in a box for the rest of his wretched existence because of the nature of federal crimes for which he's convicted. Fortunately for the perp in question, it's not up to me, you tedious moron.

Liberal rioters that were charged with damaging Federal property got bail...why was this man denied it?

Who knows, asshole. Certainly not us. Maybe because 'they' have a stronger cause than 'you' do right now. Maybe their cause is more palatable to the majority of society. Perhaps normal Americans simply tire of the natural entitlement 'causes' Qult45 snowflake Karen pieces of shit invent these days.

If he's not a flight risk and has no priors then his "due process" should have been being released on bail! My point is that he DIDN'T receive his due process...he was singled out and denied that due process!

Good. Fuck him.

Wrong, that is illegal and an abuse of the criminal justice system, to punish one who has not yet been found guilty.
If that is the way the government is going to be run, it MUST then be destroyed as a clear and present danger to the democratic republic.

 

[Rigby5]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

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You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

That is silly.
Hanging politicians in effigy is a long standing tradition.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So you admit

I admit nothing, you fool. You don't get to put words in people's mouths.

he's not a flight risk nor does he have a criminal record..

Then he will get his due process.

.but you claim he shouldn't be eligible for bail because he is charged with Federal crimes?

If it were up to me, he'd be in a box for the rest of his wretched existence because of the nature of federal crimes for which he's convicted. Fortunately for the perp in question, it's not up to me, you tedious moron.

Liberal rioters that were charged with damaging Federal property got bail...why was this man denied it?

Who knows, asshole. Certainly not us. Maybe because 'they' have a stronger cause than 'you' do right now. Maybe their cause is more palatable to the majority of society. Perhaps normal Americans simply tire of the natural entitlement 'causes' Qult45 snowflake Karen pieces of shit invent these days.

If he's not a flight risk and has no priors then his "due process" should have been being released on bail! My point is that he DIDN'T receive his due process...he was singled out and denied that due process!

Good. Fuck him.

Wrong, that is illegal and an abuse of the criminal justice system, to punish one who has not yet been found guilty.
If that is the way the government is going to be run, it MUST then be destroyed as a clear and present danger to the democratic republic.

Then, by all means, go fight the government.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Wrong, that is illegal and an abuse of the criminal justice system, to punish one who has not yet been found guilty.

Wrong, it's certainly within the scope of due process for a judge to deny bail. We aren't even to the punishment stage yet. If you don't have any understanding of how the Justice system works, then kindly shut your pie hole.

 

[Fiero425]

Wrong, that is illegal and an abuse of the criminal justice system, to punish one who has not yet been found guilty.

Wrong, it's certainly within the scope of due process for a judge to deny bail. We aren't even to the punishment stage yet. If you don't have any understanding of how the Justice system works, then kindly shut your pie hole.

Even though I agree with you, there is that little bit of a contradiction in our penal system! We say "you're innocent until proven guilty," but we all know that's BS! People are held either w/o bail or an amount they can't possibly come up with! In just about every case you're needing to prove innocence while the prosecution may go out of their way to make a person look more guilty than they are! They feel the person should be held accoutable for the crime; no matter who TF it is at the other table at times! Plenty of innocent people go to jail all the time while felons as guilty AF go "Scott-free!" I wouldn't change our system, but unfortunately it's been corrupted by bad faith on both sides of the system!

 

[White 6]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

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You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

Even you know this is bullshit.

You build it because you are making a statement. Just like burning the flag.

BS. Oh yeah, People that burn the flag suck also. Not surprised it came to your mind to justify people erecting a gallows on the Capital lawn, which you have no problem with either.

 

[White 6]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

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You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

It was a SYMBOL, White! All you have to do is take one look at that picture and you KNOW it wasn't built to really hang people! Stop embarrassing yourself!

Tell your lil anti- American bitches to pic another one. Nobody was amused except the Un Amirican minority of trumpers.

 

[White 6]

Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!

Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.

Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!

If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.

I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?

I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?

Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.

Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?

Screw you. Shrill is a quality of sound not typed response. If you don't like it put me on IGNORE or don't bother reading. I don't care about you sensibilities as it's my opinion, not yours. I'm a wood guy by civilian training and 26 years plus experience. I could have made it work and so could they, even if it caused death by twisting in the wind rather than snapping the neck. Point is, it was usable and wrong to do it. The fact you can't build shit, or steady the legs has no bearing on me or even the average carpenter. That's why you hire trained people to build things and I build things myself because I know how and used to train train other people. I didn't compare to the BLM (warning false buzzword used) because that would be apples to oranges. You think I gave a damn about those idiots in towns where they elected official who would not even request Guard troops on the streets to control that crap? I don't. That is for you as your issue to tell and enforce how those morons live and control their cities. You don't hear of it in Tennessee cities or the state putting up with it, do you? Homey don't play that, and this homey doesn't care if that's the way you want to live or not way over there. If normal people over there don't like it, they can take it up with their mayors and governors or applaud while you whine about it for them or by gosh move to more intelligent states. You can leave me out of it. I'm pretty much a state's rule kind of guy. I remember when republicans were all in favor of safeguarding state's rights to rule their state and the states passed laws to do that very thing.

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You could make THAT work? Gee...I'm guessing Mike Pence is a bit taller than that petite woman and her head is almost touching the top of the "gallows"! What are you going to do...have Pence slouch so you can hang him? You know as well as I do that this was NOT a real gallows yet you're here claiming that it was! That makes you full of shit, my friend!

Will a 40 in 2x4 hold 200 lbs? Yes, and we already know it would hold that little woman. Heck, Kung Fu hang himself from the closet rod? Get real. All those trumpers would have held it together. If not planning to use it, don't build it. You don't even put on a 25 cent rubber out of filling station restroom unless you are planning to fk.

That is silly.
Hanging politicians in effigy is a long standing tradition.

After breaking in doors and windows and storming the capital to get to them for doing their constitutional duty? Bullshit. Just traitors in action and you little shits are still trying to justify, but only trumper traitorous scum are buy it.

 

[Esdraelon]

I posted a link proving 10k had been arrested.

And almost NONE of them were held or even charged by the DAs. Those who are so smug about the situation of those on the Right being held accountable while your thugs walk away are going to find that lawlessness isn't going to stay that selective. It's like a cancer and eventually, no one will be safe, including sanctimonious Marxist assholes. The day is coming when having a media 5th column isn't going to help those on the Left any longer.

 

[AFrench2]

FUCK his "mental well being". Two officers were so messed up after the Rump Riot that they took their own lives. Dozens more are undergoing counseling. This asshole can rot for all I care.

As for the lawsuits against Rudy, Sid and MrPillow? They have PLENTY of merit. Their lies cost the company an incalculable sum.

Do you know why they committed suicide?

Because their spirit was broken by their fellow Americans trying to murder them and destroy Democracy - is my guess.