Faun
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It mattered not if they would have killed anyone in terms of I being a threat once they broke through the barricade. One did break through and there's no question others would have followed as they were trying to break down those doors after seeing lawmakers on the other side they didn't want to get away.It wasn't murder and that cop wasn't charged because he's a hero. He saved countless lives.Why was she the only one murdered? There were dozens of rioters doing much worse. Why hasn’t the cop been charged?Get a grip dude. She's dead, her debts paid. That Marine paid with her life for her mistake. I am sure, in uniform she served honorably.And a protester was killed that was stampeded by the insurectionist crowd.And yet the only person murdered that day was killed by a cop with a gun.You moron, they didn't need that gallows to kill him. Had they caught him, it's doubtful they would have dragged him out of the Capitol anyway. They would have killed him on the spot.Oh, bullshit! I suppose you think the scaffold was real too? There is a huge difference between hanging someone in effigy and actually hanging them! Not to you liberals though!They would have killed Pence had they caught him. Many of them said so.Spare me the shrill hyperbole, White! You know as well as I do that the "scaffold" you so dramatically refer to wouldn't have held the weight of a young child let alone a full grown man like Mike Pence! Ask yourself why it is you have to resort to exaggerations like that? Is it because the riot that took place didn't really compare in it's level of violence or duration to the riots that took place week after week...month after month in cities across the country?Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? I don't give a damn about those cities, especially if those people and those elected city and state politicians wish to put up with it, and they apparently do. It is their problem, but I do care about The Capital of my country, the Constitution of my country, the ability of our elected official to lawfully conduct our business in that place, under that constitution, free from violent attacks, death threats in the halls, and scaffolds built on the lawn as they searched to find the Vice President (I didn't even vote for) to have a lynching party for him on The Capital grounds. You don't get it, because you don't give a Fk about the country, as you believe in party (or despot ruler) over country.Why is it worse to protest at the Capital than it is to riot across multiple cities across the US? How is a riot that lasted a few hours with very little damage done worse than riots that lasted months and turned whole blocks into burned out hulks?I don't know that guy's story, what he had done prior or posted prior, what statements he made or other made that he may or may not have been involved in. I do know he went before a judge, charges were made and the judge listened to a prosecutor and came to a decision. I have neither the authority to over rule or the inclination to plead for a different judicial ruling. You have that inclination. Write an Amicus brief. If we were talking about violent left wing nut ball rioters out in Portland or any other city that had BLM (WARNING FALSE BUZZ NAME USED) riots my answer would be the same. I'll go with the decision of the judges a thousand miles or more away from Jackson, TN. You sound like you plead the case on emotional patriotic constitutional grounds. Sorry. No go. Those people are not patriots. Patriots do not attack the capitol or commit violence in the streets in support of their cause. Those people got into trouble committing acts by their own decision, calculating that they would not get into much trouble. Their calculation was wrong and now they are the fly that got stuck in the soup. Well, sucks to be them. What I do know is I have had to listen to their weeping and wailing incriminations of the the other sides entirely too much for the last few years from the far left and the far right. I am in the center, the moderate, and a patriot in my own rights. I didn't attack the capitol. I didn't burn liquor stores or break in and loot sporting goods or auto parts stores or approve those that do. I know a lot of patriotic people, moderates, left leaning, right leaning and we share things in common. We didn't get carried away with cause politics, as we are not easily led or manipulated. We didn't strike out against our country or the man or the white man, the black man, the Asian or the border wetbacks. We just went about our own lives and what was actually important to us and our families. Also, know most people closer to the center are fed up with the bickering scoring of points to boost their self esteem against those they tell me are oppressing them and damn sure fed up with violent overthrow of society by the radical left and radical right. So do not try to enlist me or reason me into supporting your current cause dejure of those poor people languishing behind bars awaiting adjudication for their crimes. They should have known what they were doing was wrong and could get them into trouble before they decided to follow somebody down that road to begin with.I just want you to explain why liberal protesters caught by Police committing violent crimes were released on bail yet this man who has no criminal record and doesn't seem to be a flight risk in any way languishes in jail, White? Why is it that one group has a different result from the other? What would your reaction be if it was conservatives that were allowed to go free while liberals were kept incarcerated? Would you be so unconcerned then?If they have committed by word and deed, acts that say they are a continuing threat to society, I have no problem. Same for those rioter, caught burning, looting or physically attacking people over the supposed BLM cause. If they can bring a habeas corpus ad subjiciendum case before a judge and attain release, more power to them. I am not the one that deemed them a continuing risk to society. Go talk to them.Who cares if the Party in power punishes the opposition by jailing them for protesting and keeping them there without bail? With all due respect, White? EVERYONE should care about that and it shouldn't be an "us" or "them" thing! One of the great things about America is that our justice system is based on the premise of equal justice under the law! I would never ask that anyone be kept in jail pending trial if they aren't a flight risk and have no criminal record that would indicate they're a danger to the public if let free. You keep murderers and rapists locked up without bail. You don't keep protesters locked up without bail. You especially don't do that if you've released OTHER protesters on bail that were far more violent than the rioters at the Capital!Who cares? It was a choice he and others of his ilk made.Is there a flight risk with this defendant? If not then why is he sitting in jail awaiting trial? How many liberal protestors were kept in jail while awaiting THEIR trials if they had no criminal records? This is being done to punish...not in the pursuit of justice!
Wrong. A cop died that day, sprayed in the face with chemicals.
You forget that b!tch who was shot jumping thru the glass of Congressional doors! Representatives were right there and the guard fired on her crazy arse! She was a marine or something so she knew exactly what she was doing! If only she lived so she could be dishonorably brought down low for being a stinking Republican POS attacking the halls of our democracy! Family members should be cut off as well when it comes to benefits! I just hoped the b!tch had suffered longer while those fools milled about wondering WTF to do as she bled out!
"He saved countless lives"? You're assuming the mob was going to start killing everyone, and I sincerely doubt that was going to be the case.
All of these people need to be prosecuted for what they actually did, some more harshly than others, however the idea our democracy was almost lost that day, as well as countless lives lost is ridiculous hyperbole.
It would have been a bloodbath had those traitors stormed into the Speaker's Lobby. That cop saved lives.