Oakland As. Second place and two games over 500!

yes its a godforsaken park but in the old days until the last ten years or so before they realised a new stadium was never going to get done,they packed them in like sardines,they had huge crowds,the most loyal fans you could find you just got to watch all their old classic games prior to the last ten years and their stadiums ALWAYS looked like this.

I would watch the Royals playing in Oakland and be envious of their fans always thinking to myself-,MAN WHY WONT KANSAS CITY FANS SUPPORT THE ROYALS THE WAY OAKLAND FANS DO WITH THE A'S? The fans here in kc embarrassed me the way they would not support them as A;s fans do, wherever you are getting your information that they did not pack them in in the old days,its totally wrong. I would give an arm and a leg to have the kind of fan support for the Royals when they were bad for decades that Oakland always gave to the A's over the decades.

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this was the norm,I got friends in the bay area,i been to games in oakland over the years,i remember dude, I have always been embarrassed over the fair weather royal fans here in kansas city that never turned out for games and did not support them if they were losing liek the red sox,cubs and A's fans,the most loyal you will ever find.

Yes Oakland did not embrace the A;s in the beginning because they already had the Giants but over the years their fanbase grew and they packed them in. just like the cardinals in arizona they were not embraced in the beginning but theur fanbase grew over a period of time and not they pack them in.


Being a royals fans living here in kansas city when they played in the AL west,i would tune in and what always amazed me about them is unlike the fans here in kansas city,if they were playing terrible,they would pack them in. they did not have half empty stadiums as the royals did back in the 90's when they were a joke franchise and always in the bottom of the celler. I thought it was pitiful how the fans here in kansas city only turned out for the royals only if they were winning but if they were losing,they turned high tail and the stadium was a ghosttwon. They packed them in same as the cubs and red sox dude.
 

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ask anybody in the bay area and they will tell you the same thing i am about the Giants,that when they were threatening to leave SF to move orlando florida and were still playing in candlestick,the prior years they were there playing there in candlestick and they thought they were leaving,candlestick park was a ghosttown as well until they got their nice brand new ballpark.

Leaving oakland for vegas is the most asinine thing the A's could do. The Raiders owner mark davis is already finding out what myself and many experts said would happen once they left for vegas that it would be a major mistake because he would have no fan support,no home filed advantage,every home game for the raiders is a ROAD game for them now,they have sixteen road games now,the raider brand is not big in vegas at all.mark davis has complained many times on how the visiting teams crowds always greatly outnumber the raider fans in vegas.:auiqs.jpg:The raiders will NEVER be embraced in vegas as the cardinals eventually were in arizona.

It will be even much worse for the A's in vegas because baseball is not big anymore like football is so while the raiders at least pack the stadium even thought its always the visting teams fans that pack them in mostly.for A'S games,there are going to be lots of empty seats.baseball was big back in the 80's and 90's and it would have been a good thing back then but not now. Best thing for baseball is for john fisher of the AS to sell the team and get a new owner who is not an asshole that would spend the money to build a new stadium and keep them in oakland but that wont happen of course.
 
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Good or not so good, Oakland has lost the Warriors, the Raiders and now the Athletics over the last several years. People complain about subsidizing stadiums. Well, the city did not. The teams want all the perks. They may have turned down cheaper newer stadiums.
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San Francisco fans are the most stupid,they brag about how Oakland no longer has the raiders anymore yet they lost the 49ers as well.they are san francisco in NAME only.they arent even in the bay area anymore,they are the SANTA CLARA 49ers,
 
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I hope LV has that stadium ready to go on time.
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even if they do,the fans will not turn out and support them if they lose.In the beginning they will but eventually they will not show up. baseball is not big anymore as it was back in the 80's and 90's. The raiders will be okay cause football is big,they dont have homefiled advantage anymore as they enjoyed in oakland but the stadiums are at least full,

baseball is not big anymore,they wont turn out for them as they do for the raiders. major mistake not getting a new stadium and staying in oakland.
 
here is a great video,this says it all.its that ************ AS's owner john fisher why the A'S fanbase has not shown up for games. Kudos to all the fans that showed up and packed the stadium and chanted SELL THE TEAM.:thup:



this is an excellent post here below.he really knows his stuff,with aasshole owner who treats the team like shit and makes NO COMMITTMENT to winning and DOUBLES the ticket prices despite losing to make it loook like the fans dont support the team,any wonder WHY the fans hate the owner and dont show up for games anymore?

As an A's fan it's hard to choose. John Fisher...

  • Is planning to move the team to Vegas cause they gave him free money and backed out of a 12 BILLION Dollar Waterfront deal over $91 million dollars. He still doesn't have the funding for Vegas.
  • Doubled the price of season tickets to give the illusion of no one attending
  • Has the highest price of Hot Dog among all stadiums in the league
  • Was the lone owner to not pay minor leaguers during 2020 Covid Season
  • Canceled all team run fan festivals, and then actively tried to sabotage the fan run event
  • Essentially took money away from the Make a Wish Foundation because he found out the team was auctioning off one of their old "Rooted in Oakland" trucks, which was gonna be bought by fans
  • Has a lower payroll now than the team did in 2007
  • Is so cheap he didn't want to give Marcus Semien a qualifying offer
  • Gutted the team so he didn't have to pay the likes of Semien, Matt Olson, Sean Murphy, Matt Chapman, Sean Manaea, Chris Bassitt, Mark Canha, Frankie Montas, Sonny Gray, etc, etc, etc
  • The highest contract ever given out under John Fisher is 3 years/$30M for Billy Butler
  • Temporarily is moving the team to a AAA stadium in which he said at a press conference he's "excited to watch Aaron Judge hit homers against the A's" there
  • I could on...:thup:

STILL MORE INSIGHTFUL POSTS BELOW.

Are you really this clueless about whats been going on in Oakland for the last decade? The team has been completely non competitive due to the owner trading away any player who comes even close to being talented enough to warrant a decent salary. Add to the mix that the concession prices at the ballpark are in the top three in expense. You expect fans to just continue to show up under these conditions?

EXACTLY,with a shitty owner that shits on the fans,who can blame the fans for staying away.
 
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I mentioned earlier that the Giants when there were some serious talks they would leave SF for Orlando Fl,when the residents in the SAN FRAN are in the prior years believed they were going to lose them,candlestick was a ghosttown, just like oaklands stadium is,no difference,they then got the new stadium at PNC and they started packing them in, great article on it right here.

The A's used to own the Bay Area, back before the 1990s. I actually made a chart of the yearly attendance figures for San Francisco vs Oakland a few months ago, and the trend was pretty clear: Until the early 90s, the A's tended to outgross the Giants. It would vary, depending on the quality of the team, but they were quite competitive, and the A's had the advantage more often than not.

And then the 90s hit, the vote to move the Giants failed by a single vote, and instead the team got sold to a new ownership group determined to keep the team in SF, lest they taste the wrath of a young Brandon Crawford. And then those new Giants owners signed Barry Bonds, the Giants became determined to put forth competitive teams, and the A's... did not.

Because your presumption here is based on the ownership's cheapness being a new thing... when it isn't remotely. Remember, the famous Moneyball season, where Oakland's ownership was too cheap to spend money on the team, was 2002, over twenty years ago. And that was well into the A's being cheap as ****.
 
so DESPITE the fact the A's played in such a shitty stadium,they actually OUTDREW Giants fans in SEVERAL years in attendance,pretty impressive. its too bad the Oakland fans have to pay the price of having a shitty owner who wont do the right thing like ownership did with the Giants,they got new ownership,an owner committed to winning and a brand new ballpark and then started packing them in.



196854.3%2nd of 10837,22050.6%6th of 10837,466-246
196955.6%2nd of 6873,60354.3%2nd of 6778,23295,371
197053.1%3rd of 6740,72054.9%2nd of 6778,355-37,635
197155.6%1st of 61,106,04362.7%1st of 6914,993191,050
197244.5%5th of 6647,74460.0%1st of 6921,323-273,579
197354.3%3rd of 6834,19358.0%1st of 61,000,763-166,570
197444.4%5th of 6519,98755.6%1st of 6845,693-325,706
197549.7%3rd of 6522,91960.5%1st of 61,075,518-552,599
197645.7%4th of 6626,86854.0%2nd of 6780,593-153,725
197746.3%4th of 6700,05639.1%7th of 7495,599204,457
197854.9%3rd of 61,740,47742.6%6th of 7526,9991,213,478
197943.8%4th of 61,456,40233.3%7th of 7306,7631,149,639
198046.6%5th of 61,096,11551.2%2nd of 7842,259253,856
198150.5%4th of 6632,27458.7%1st of 71,304,052-671,778
198253.7%3rd of 61,200,94842.0%5th of 71,735,489-534,541
198348.8%5th of 61,251,53045.7%4th of 71,294,941-43,411
198440.7%6th of 61,001,54547.5%4th of 71,353,281-351,736
198538.3%6th of 6818,69747.5%4th of 71,334,599-515,902
198651.2%3rd of 61,528,74846.9%3rd of 71,314,646214,102
198755.6%1st of 61,917,16850.0%3rd of 71,678,921238,247
198851.2%4th of 61,785,29764.2%1st of 72,287,335-502,038
198956.8%1st of 62,059,70161.1%1st of 72,667,225-607,524
199052.5%3rd of 61,975,52863.6%1st of 72,900,217-924,689
199146.3%4th of 61,737,47851.9%4th of 72,713,493-976,015
199244.4%5th of 61,560,99859.3%1st of 72,494,160-933,162

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During this span, the Oakland A's beat out the San Francisco Giants' attendance numbers by 4,010,656. They won four World Series, including one over the Giants head-to-head, tended to have a better record... and, look, I love Candlestick, but the Colesium, pre-Mount Davis, was the better stadium.
Straight up, the A's owned the region. And the Giants management knew it, to the point where, in August of 1992, the LA Times reported that the owner of the Giants had agreed to sell the team to a Tampa Bay group, citing issues with getting financing for a new stadium.
The irony is palpable. And the thing that saved the San Francisco Giants? The National League voted against the move. By a single vote (as they needed 10 of the possible 14 votes, and only got 9)..
The team explored other options for relocation and a new stadium, but in the end was sold to an ownership group led by Peter Magowan, who immediately signed the best free agent available that offseason: Barry Bonds.
And this is the following seven years:

199363.6%2nd of 72,606,35442.0%7th of 72,035,025571,329
199447.8%2nd of 41,704,60844.7%2nd of 41,242,692461,916
199546.5%4th of 41,241,50046.5%4th of 41,174,31067,190
199642.0%4th of 41,413,92248.1%3rd of 41,148,380265,542
199755.6%1st of 41,690,86940.1%4th of 41,264,218426,651
199854.6%2nd of 51,925,36445.7%4th of 41,232,343693,021
199953.1%2nd of 52,078,39953.7%2nd of 41,434,610643,789

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In total, the Giants attendance for those seven years outpaced the A's by 3,129,438. And that was with a visibly aging Candlestick Park as the Giants worked to construct their new Palace to Baseball, maybe the finest stadium in the game, Whatever-Tech-Company-Has-Money-To-Spend Park. And the years that followed...

200059.9%1st of 53,318,80056.5%1st of 41,603,7441,715,056
200155.6%2nd of 53,311,95863.0%2nd of 42,133,2771,178,681
200259.0%2nd of 53,253,20363.6%1st of 42,169,8111,083,392
200362.1%1st of 53,264,89859.3%1st of 42,216,5961,048,302
200456.2%2nd of 53,256,85456.2%2nd of 42,201,5161,055,338
200546.3%3rd of 53,181,02354.3%2nd of 42,109,1181,071,905
200647.2%3rd of 53,130,31357.4%1st of 41,976,6251,153,688
200743.8%5th of 53,223,21546.9%3rd of 41,921,8441,301,371
200844.4%4th of 52,863,83746.6%3rd of 41,665,2561,198,581
200954.3%3rd of 52,862,11046.3%4th of 41,408,7831,453,327
201056.8%1st of 53,037,44350.0%2nd of 41,418,3911,619,052
201153.1%2nd of 53,387,30345.7%3rd of 41,476,7911,910,512
201258.0%1st of 53,377,37158.0%1st of 41,679,0131,698,358
201346.9%3rd of 53,369,10659.3%1st of 51,809,3021,559,804
201454.3%2nd of 53,368,69754.3%2nd of 52,003,6281,365,069
201551.9%2nd of 53,375,88242.0%5th of 51,768,1751,607,707
201653.7%2nd of 53,365,25642.6%5th of 51,521,5061,843,750
201739.5%5th of 53,303,65246.3%5th of 51,475,7211,827,931
201845.1%4th of 53,156,18559.9%2nd of 51,573,6161,582,569
201947.5%3rd of 52,707,76059.9%2nd of 51,670,7341,037,026
202048.3%3rd of 5N/A60.0%1st of 5N/AN/A
202166.0%1st of 51,679,48453.1%3rd of 5701,430978,054
202256.5%3rd of 51,013,35932.8%5th of 5248,501764,858

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It's really fascinating to think about that time in 1992 and 1993. In 1992, the Bay belonged to the Oakland A's, and with good reason. They had been the better team for the previous 25 years, they had the better stadium, they had the bigger players (not intended as a Canseco/McGwire joke, but it sure fits). They had the Bay so hard that the Giants were so very close to moving to Tampa Bay.
And then the winds changed. A new owner, a new superstar, and soon after, a new stadium too, and... it's hard not to feel like it's all over. But imagine what could have been, if that one vote went the other way, the Giants did scamper off to Tampa, and Oakland had the next several years to dominate the Bay (at least until an expansion team came to the burgeoning Silicon Valley)...
 
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And they better than than two other mlb teams
 
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