Now white conservatives can understand how Blacks feel about the justice system.

Doug1943

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It's not normal for people to be able to feel much empathy for those who are different from them. This is universally true.

In America, whites, and especially white conservatives, don't really appreciate what is was like to be Black before the Civil Rights Revolution fifty years ago, and especially what it was like to be Black in the South. And even if they do, many of them assume it's totally different now.

I don't want to start an argument about this here (elsewhere, sure) but there is still 'statistical racism' in the US: if a policeman pulls over a car with a dead tail light, and the occupants are young Black males, they will be treated differently than if they were white. There's a valid reason for this, but if you're one of those young Black males, it might not cut much ice with you at the time.

And if you're Black, in front of an all-white jury and a white judge, you won't be crazy to think that your skin color is going to play a role in what happens.

Individuals acting in a private capacity are one thing. But the law is supposed to treat us all equally, regardless of our race, sex, or political affiliation.

But this is not always the case. Long ago, in Houston, an acquaintance of mine named Lee Otis Johnson, a Black militant who was a thorn in the side of the police, gave an undercover policeman a marijuana cigaratte ... was arrested ... was sentenced to, wait for it .... thirty years in prison. All following the letter of the law. He served four before a higher court overturned the sentence. [ Black Panther Gets 30 Years for One Joint (1968) – Hippyland ]

Equal treatment? Things have improved a lot, with respect to race and the law, but they started from a very low base. (The one area where 'Critical Race Theory', which used to be called 'Critical Legal Theory', had a point, was in the way the law could appear to be race-neutral, but in fact was not neutral. (More about that here: [ Critical Race Theory Wasn’t Always Like This ] )

Now, we're finding out what it's like when the letter of the law is followed, but the acutal application of it is unequal. Does anyone believe that if Mr Trump had continued as a Democrat, that he would now be facing felony charges? When I see pious Democrats being interviewed saying 'No one is above the law' I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Come on! Are you kidding me? Hunter Biden is not only 'high', he's high above the law.

Unequal treatment before the law, while following the letter of the law, is now going to be applied to white conservatives. We're going to get to feel what it's like. There are two positive results from this: (1) it will wake up more of our people (and maybe some others as well) as to what is happening to America, and (2) it may make us a bit more understanding of how that young Black man being pulled over for a dead tail light feels.
 
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It's not normal for people to be able to feel much empathy for those who are different from them. This is universally true.

In America, whites, and especially white conservatives, don't really appreciate what is was like to be Black before the Civil Rights Revolution fifty years ago, and especially what it was like to be Black in the South. And even if they do, many of them assume it's totally different now.

I don't want to start an argument about this here (elsewhere, sure) but there is still 'statistical racism' in the US: if a policeman pulls over a car with a dead tail light, and the occupants are young Black males, they will be treated differently than if they were white. There's a valid reason for this, but if you're one of those young Black males, it might not cut much ice with you at the time.

And if you're Black, in front of an all-white jury and a white judge, you won't be crazy to think that your skin color is going to play a role in what happens.

Individuals acting in a private capacity are one thing. But the law is supposed to treat us all equally, regardless of our race, sex, or political affiliation.

But this is not always the case. Long ago, in Houston, an acquaintance of mine named Lee Otis Johnson, a Black militant who was a thorn in the side of the police, gave an undercover policeman a marijuana cigaratte ... was arrested ... was sentenced to, wait for it .... thirty years in prison. All following the letter of the law. He served four before a higher court overturned the sentence. [ Black Panther Gets 30 Years for One Joint (1968) – Hippyland ]

Equal treatment? Things have improved a lot, with respect to race and the law, but they started from a very low base. (The one area where 'Critical Race Theory', which used to be called 'Critical Legal Theory', had a point, was in the way the law could appear to be race-neutral, but in fact was not neutral. (More about that here: [ Critical Race Theory Wasn’t Always Like This ] )

Now, we're finding out what it's like when the letter of the law is followed, but the acutal application of it is unequal. Does anyone believe that if Mr Trump had continued as a Democrat, that he would now be facing felony charges? When I see pious Democrats being interviewed saying 'No one is above the law' I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Come on! Are you kidding me? Hunter Biden is not only 'high', he's high above the law.

Unequal treatment before the law, while following the letter of the law, is now going to be applied to white conservatives. We're going to get to feel what it's like. There are two positive results from this: (1) it will wake up more of our people (and maybe some others as well) as to what is happening to America, and (2) it may make us a bit more understanding of how that young Black man being pulled over for a dead tail light feels.
Most blacks have no idea how things were before civil rights, either.
 
Unequal treatment before the law, while following the letter of the law, is now going to be applied to white conservatives. We're going to get to feel what it's like. There are two positive results from this: (1) it will wake up more of our people (and maybe some others as well) as to what is happening to America, and (2) it may make us a bit more understanding of how that young Black man being pulled over for a dead tail light feels.

Yeah, Fake Hippy Doug, why a black person being pulled over for a DWB and shot by a cop with a history of abusive behavior is JUST LIKE Trump being held to account for paying a porn star $130,000 and then trying to cover it up.

Now, we're finding out what it's like when the letter of the law is followed, but the acutal application of it is unequal. Does anyone believe that if Mr Trump had continued as a Democrat, that he would now be facing felony charges? When I see pious Democrats being interviewed saying 'No one is above the law' I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Come on! Are you kidding me? Hunter Biden is not only 'high', he's high above the law.

YOu have it in reverse. Democrats never would have been stupid enough to nominate someone like Trump. So it never would have been an issue to start with.

I'm still waiting for you guys to tell me what "Crime" Hunter committed, exactly. Bad Selfies in the First Degree?
 
It's not normal for people to be able to feel much empathy for those who are different from them. This is universally true.

In America, whites, and especially white conservatives, don't really appreciate what is was like to be Black before the Civil Rights Revolution fifty years ago, and especially what it was like to be Black in the South. And even if they do, many of them assume it's totally different now.

I don't want to start an argument about this here (elsewhere, sure) but there is still 'statistical racism' in the US: if a policeman pulls over a car with a dead tail light, and the occupants are young Black males, they will be treated differently than if they were white. There's a valid reason for this, but if you're one of those young Black males, it might not cut much ice with you at the time.

And if you're Black, in front of an all-white jury and a white judge, you won't be crazy to think that your skin color is going to play a role in what happens.

Individuals acting in a private capacity are one thing. But the law is supposed to treat us all equally, regardless of our race, sex, or political affiliation.

But this is not always the case. Long ago, in Houston, an acquaintance of mine named Lee Otis Johnson, a Black militant who was a thorn in the side of the police, gave an undercover policeman a marijuana cigaratte ... was arrested ... was sentenced to, wait for it .... thirty years in prison. All following the letter of the law. He served four before a higher court overturned the sentence. [ Black Panther Gets 30 Years for One Joint (1968) – Hippyland ]

Equal treatment? Things have improved a lot, with respect to race and the law, but they started from a very low base. (The one area where 'Critical Race Theory', which used to be called 'Critical Legal Theory', had a point, was in the way the law could appear to be race-neutral, but in fact was not neutral. (More about that here: [ Critical Race Theory Wasn’t Always Like This ] )

Now, we're finding out what it's like when the letter of the law is followed, but the acutal application of it is unequal. Does anyone believe that if Mr Trump had continued as a Democrat, that he would now be facing felony charges? When I see pious Democrats being interviewed saying 'No one is above the law' I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Come on! Are you kidding me? Hunter Biden is not only 'high', he's high above the law.

Unequal treatment before the law, while following the letter of the law, is now going to be applied to white conservatives. We're going to get to feel what it's like. There are two positive results from this: (1) it will wake up more of our people (and maybe some others as well) as to what is happening to America, and (2) it may make us a bit more understanding of how that young Black man being pulled over for a dead tail light feels.
People need more empathy towards others before ones soul is condemned.
 
People need more empathy towards others before ones soul is condemned.

Empathy is not something that is linked to and only occurs among humans
By and large, people who get joy from killing animals are intrinsically lacking in the ability to empathize with ANY other living being on a substantial level.
It's the only way to be so over joyed by bringing such anguish, pain and despair to another living creature.
And if you don't think animals feel such things shame on you.
 
Empathy is not something that is linked to and only occurs among humans
By and large, people who get joy from killing animals are intrinsically lacking in the ability to empathize with ANY other living being on a substantial level.
It's the only way to be so over joyed by bringing such anguish, pain and despair to another living creature.
And if you don't think animals feel such things shame on you.
Most animals possess the ability to empathize.
 
People need more empathy towards others before ones soul is condemned.
Sure, a noble sentiment. But empathy is a luxury which ordinary people can only afford, when their own material circumstances are secure. It's not accidental that, as the world has become wealthier, it has become -- in the wealthy countries anyway -- more compassionate.
 
Nah. He would have faced them 30 years ago.

Democrats are always, always, always held to higher standards than Republicans.
I think you're being ironic here, or trying to wind us up.

Here's a test: suppose it came out that Republican President Richard Nixon, or Ronald Reagan, had behaved towards a a White House intern as John F Kennedy did towards Mimi Alford. Do you think you would know about it now? Do you think it would be impossible NOT to know about it? Yet his behavior -- which today's 'woke' generation would be calling 'rape' and abuse of power -- rightly so -- is just passed over. How many people even know about it? (If anyone reading this doesn't know about it, Google "JFK Alford".)


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Doug1943 there is racism under your fingernails too!

BOO!
I don't have any fingernails to speak of. (Nailbiting, bad habit.) But since your definition of 'racist' is 'someone I disagree with, but can't make a good argument against', if I had them, you'd be right, of course.
 
Is that why racist don't want CRT taught, there are thousands of us that know what life was like before the CRA.
That's no doubt why white racists don't want true history taught. But CRT is not teaching 'true history' it's teaching a particular interpretation of history. Some things will be emphasized, others left out or downplayed.

It's not possible to write a history that just recites the facts -- some facts will be chosen to be included, others not. This won't happen randomly, but according to how the historian sees the world.

I'm all in favor of teaching 'true history', in the sense of not teaching falsehoods, although human history is so bloody, with so much cruelty, that it needs to be introduced to children slowly -- and in fact, the really awful parts will simply be left out. And as for interpretation -- a true interpretation will not show any particular race or nation or ethnicity in a very good light. Which is why we'll never teach 'true history' in our schools.

At best, we'll teach a bare bones set of facts, without the horrible details. And even those bare bones will be selected so as not to offend the multiplicity of ethnic and other identity groups in the US.

I'd be all in favor of high school students seeing a video'd debate between the fellow who wrote Lies My Teacher Taught Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong, [ https:// amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/1620973928 ] and a competent debater from my side. (The students aren't going to read the book, or any book. But they would listen to, say, an hour-long video debate.)
 

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