Now we're talking- Wyoming to bring back the Firing Squad

[NLT]

I am all for bringing back drawn and quartered

 

[HenryBHough]

I am all for bringing back drawn and quartered

Put that on Pay-TV, impose a 3% tax on the tickets and you'd pay off the national debt.

 

[DriftingSand]

I am all for bringing back drawn and quartered

Put that on Pay-TV, impose a 3% tax on the tickets and you'd pay off the national debt.

... and significantly reduce the current prison population. Win win.

 

[DriftingSand]

There is nothing wrong with rightful vengeance.

But what if they get the wrong person?

Well ... if the right person is the only one blindfolded and standing against the wall it will be nearly impossible to hit a bystander.

 

[JoeB131]

Today's level of forensic investigation and proof-positive results will alter the level of "innocent" folks being sent to their death from .0000001% to .00000000%. No worries!

First, i think your math is off. 153 people have been exonerated from death row. 1398 have been executed. So for every 9 you've executed, you've had to let one go for lack of evidence.

ALso, a lot of people are sentenced to death without forensics, purely on the word of investigators and witnesses.

 

[Geaux4it]

Liberals protested the use of lethal injection chemicals. They believed that without the chemicals the death penalty would go away. They were wrong. There is nothing wrong with the firing squad.

It validates yet another example of the diverse uses the tool provides. A guns versatility is valuable and sought after

-Geaux

 

[ninja007]

will the black criminals be wearing a Mike Brown shirt with their hands up?

 

[Steinlight]

Cheaper and less painful than lethal injection when done properly. Seems like a win win. Many liberals, being children, probably won't like it because it sounds more mean and scary than lethal injection and think policy should be based on their feelings. This should be the death penalty method universally to be honest.

 

[JoeB131]

Cheaper and less painful than lethal injection when done properly. Seems like a win win. Many liberals, being children, probably won't like it because it sounds more mean and scary than lethal injection and think policy should be based on their feelings. This should be the death penalty method universally to be honest.

NO, what we need to do is stop killing people to make little dicks like you feel better about themselves.

When we execute a rich person, then I'll take the death penalty seriously.

 

[Geaux4it]

Cheaper and less painful than lethal injection when done properly. Seems like a win win. Many liberals, being children, probably won't like it because it sounds more mean and scary than lethal injection and think policy should be based on their feelings. This should be the death penalty method universally to be honest.

NO, what we need to do is stop killing people to make little dicks like you feel better about themselves.

When we execute a rich person, then I'll take the death penalty seriously.

 

[Geaux4it]

Cheaper and less painful than lethal injection when done properly. Seems like a win win. Many liberals, being children, probably won't like it because it sounds more mean and scary than lethal injection and think policy should be based on their feelings. This should be the death penalty method universally to be honest.

NO, what we need to do is stop killing people to make little dicks like you feel better about themselves.

When we execute a rich person, then I'll take the death penalty seriously.

Pull up your boot straps and close your open hand, and improve your position Joe. Quit being jealous of our success

-Geaux

 

[JoeB131]

Pull up your boot straps and close your open hand, and improve your position Joe. Quit being jealous of our success

I just asked the question. Why have we never executed a rich person for committing murder? OJ, the Menendez Brothers, etc.

Why is it we only execute the poor?

Why not go all out, and give rich people one free murder.

 

[Katzndogz]

I had no idea that OJ was convicted of murder. Do you have a link to that verdict?

The Menendez brothers were convicted during a time that California didn't have the death penalty.

 

[Steinlight]

Cheaper and less painful than lethal injection when done properly. Seems like a win win. Many liberals, being children, probably won't like it because it sounds more mean and scary than lethal injection and think policy should be based on their feelings. This should be the death penalty method universally to be honest.

NO, what we need to do is stop killing people to make little dicks like you feel better about themselves.

When we execute a rich person, then I'll take the death penalty seriously.

You are all over the place. First you say you want to abolish the death penalty because only assholes support it or something, but it would be ok if we used it more on the rich(there are some bankers and politicians that come to mind that would be deserving of lawful trial and hanging). So on one hand you say it is immoral all together, but then say it would be better if it was applied more across the board and equitably. Just because some people escape the death penalty that deserve it does not make it immoral when it is applied justly. That is like saying, well some people get away with child molestation, probably those with better money and lawyers, thus we shouldn't prosecute any of them with the strictest sentence of the law. Thanks for proving the point of my post about this type of execution hurting your feelings and showing the logical incoherency of the left winger.

 

[Katzndogz]

The rich don't commit death penalty offenses. The death penalty isn't given for property crimes otherwise we would be executing shoplifters. The penalty for the rich is life in prison like Bernie Madoff got.

 

[High_Gravity]

The rich don't commit death penalty offenses. The death penalty isn't given for property crimes otherwise we would be executing shoplifters. The penalty for the rich is life in prison like Bernie Madoff got.

I disagree with that completely. There are drug dealers who are considered rich who order murders all the time.

 

[JoeB131]

I had no idea that OJ was convicted of murder. Do you have a link to that verdict?

The Menendez brothers were convicted during a time that California didn't have the death penalty.

1) The fact OJ was rich is why he wasn't convicted of murders everyone knows he committed.

2) The DP was on the table for poor people when the Menendez brothers were convicted. They didn't get it because they were ...wait for it... rich.

Okay, Homework time. Please point out the last time a rich person was executed for a capital crime.

Thanks.

 

[JoeB131]

You are all over the place. First you say you want to abolish the death penalty because only assholes support it or something, but it would be ok if we used it more on the rich(there are some bankers and politicians that come to mind that would be deserving of lawful trial and hanging). So on one hand you say it is immoral all together, but then say it would be better if it was applied more across the board and equitably. Just because some people escape the death penalty that deserve it does not make it immoral when it is applied justly. That is like saying, well some people get away with child molestation, probably those with better money and lawyers, thus we shouldn't prosecute any of them with the strictest sentence of the law. Thanks for proving the point of my post about this type of execution hurting your feelings and showing the logical incoherency of the left winger.

The problem is, you can't EVER apply such a penalty "Justly". The rich can get good lawyers who will argue the shit out of every bit of evidence. The poor end up with a drunk public defender who sleeps through his trial.

Until you can make it fair, it should be abolished.

 

[Steinlight]

You are all over the place. First you say you want to abolish the death penalty because only assholes support it or something, but it would be ok if we used it more on the rich(there are some bankers and politicians that come to mind that would be deserving of lawful trial and hanging). So on one hand you say it is immoral all together, but then say it would be better if it was applied more across the board and equitably. Just because some people escape the death penalty that deserve it does not make it immoral when it is applied justly. That is like saying, well some people get away with child molestation, probably those with better money and lawyers, thus we shouldn't prosecute any of them with the strictest sentence of the law. Thanks for proving the point of my post about this type of execution hurting your feelings and showing the logical incoherency of the left winger.

The problem is, you can't EVER apply such a penalty "Justly". The rich can get good lawyers who will argue the shit out of every bit of evidence. The poor end up with a drunk public defender who sleeps through his trial.

Until you can make it fair, it should be abolished.

Yes you can, with DNA evidence, there is very little to if any error, wrongful convictions are being overturned and the system will continue to improve along these lines. Just because some monster was a loser in life and couldn't afford anything more than a public defender before he brutally murdered someone than that is his own fault.

Money doesn't answer into the question at all, and the fact that your morality is defined by money, by the material, is representative of a greater disease in Western societies of materialism. I have heard many argue it would cost less to keep them in prison for life, thus we shouldn't execute them. Not only do they totally ignore that the appeals system could and should be reformed with improvements in DNA and forensics. But to reduce this moral question to money and cost is disgusting and inhuman.

People that so flagrantly violate another's right to life through brutal murder have no right to exist any longer in any capacity since they would not afford this liberty to their fellow man. It isn't an issue of "vengeance" it is upholding the principle that the foundation of a moral society comes only with the respect of the liberty of others, this is what our rights and privileges are born of. People that are so blatantly, evil, anti-social, and dysfunctional have no right to continue to live off or enjoy the privileges of the society they had no respect for.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes you can, with DNA evidence, there is very little to if any error, wrongful convictions are being overturned and the system will continue to improve along these lines. Just because some monster was a loser in life and couldn't afford anything more than a public defender before he brutally murdered someone than that is his own fault.

Most capital cases don't have "DNA Evidence". Most are based on the testimony of witnesses.

And 153 people who didn't murder anyone were exonerated later.

People that so flagrantly violate another's right to life through brutal murder have no right to exist any longer in any capacity since they would not afford this liberty to their fellow man. It isn't an issue of "vengeance" it is upholding the principle that the foundation of a moral society comes only with the respect of the liberty of others, this is what our rights and privileges are born of. People that are so blatantly, evil, anti-social, and dysfunctional have no right to continue to live off or enjoy the privileges of the society they had no respect for.

But that's the point, isn't it? The Menendez Brothers were truly reprehensible. They murdered their PARENTS, for Chrisakes. But they had a shitload of money to hire really, really good lawyers. Not because they were winners in life, but because the two people they murdered left them a shitload of money.

But they get to keep living off society because they got good lawyers.