Not Easy For NATO To Trust Biden

What conditions? The big blunder was not including the Afghan government in the plan and leaving only 2500 troops. The Taliban could sit back and meet the "conditions", which they did, and then pounce on the gates of the airport.
No they didn't!

The Taliban broke the treaty when they started taking over the provinces by force.

That is why Trump negotiated a CONDITIONS BASED agreement.

But Slow Joe said fuck it... and pulled everyone out despite his top generals advising against it.

Piss poor judgement from a piss poor leader.
 
Then why didn't the Taliban take over when there were 2500 troops dumbass.
Because they couldn't.

Biden's unconditional withdrawal with no plan whatsoever caused the fall of Afghanistan... there isn't a brush in the world big enough to paint it any other way.
Wrong as usual. The Taliban didn't have to do anything but sit back and wait, cupcake.
tump was handing over the country on a silver platter.
 
Wrong as usual. The Taliban didn't have to do anything but sit back and wait, cupcake.
tump was handing over the country on a silver platter.
Gaslighting revisionist history and complete bullshit.

Biden handed them the country on a silver platter. We all watched it happen.

Your alternate facts don't fly here.
 
No they didn't!

The Taliban broke the treaty when they started taking over the provinces by force.

That is why Trump negotiated a CONDITIONS BASED agreement.

But Slow Joe said fuck it... and pulled everyone out despite his top generals advising against it.

Piss poor judgement from a piss poor leader.
You are right about tump's piss poor leadership. There was no treaty, and the conditions were met.
Had the idiot included the Afghan government in the arrangement (there was no treaty), the outcome might have been different.
 
We had Bumfuck tump making a ridiculous arrangement for our withdrawal when he did not include the Afghan government in the plan and left 2500 troops to fend off the Taliban, who drooled at the thought of having a free rein. This kind of thinking gave us the ability to eliminate tump in the last place.
I think all this criticism and blame placed on old Joe and dumb Don is misplaced. The military is to blame. They should have had a bug out plan devised long ago. Of course, we can’t blame our sacred military. It’s unpatriotic!
 
I think all this criticism and blame placed on old Joe and dumb Don is misplaced. The military is to blame. They should have had a bug out plan devised long ago. Of course, we can’t blame our sacred military. It’s unpatriotic!
I wonder what the military would do if they had their way. They did not and they could not.
 
This is it? This is your excuse?

Even if it were true... Your excuse is Biden just said Fuck It...we don't need a plan?!?

You think that's a good leadership decision?

It's this kind of thinking that gave us the dumbfuck Biden in the first place.
It is why our allied no longer feel they can trust us in the long term. We might allow that POS to take power in 2024. Besides, that was before Biden took office. The Generals testified he order them to come up with several contingency plans, and they did.
 
Gaslighting revisionist history and complete bullshit.

Biden handed them the country on a silver platter. We all watched it happen.

Your alternate facts don't fly here.
Your alternative facts were in place before Biden. The Taliban got what they wanted from tump's
agreement, but he didn't care. Taliban controlled the entrance to the airport and owned the country.
You want to recreate history, like the "big steal", yes?
 
I think all this criticism and blame placed on old Joe and dumb Don is misplaced. The military is to blame. They should have had a bug out plan devised long ago. Of course, we can’t blame our sacred military. It’s unpatriotic!
The military had a plan... Joe overrode it.

Washington (CNN) --hPresident Joe Biden ordered the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan over the advice of some of his senior-most advisers in the Pentagon and State Department, leaders who are now charged with carrying out the particulars of the complicated drawdown.
Multiple current and former officials tell CNN that those advisers -- including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, leader of US Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie and some State Department officials -- expressed concerns about what a full withdrawal might mean for the US counter-terror mission. They also expressed concern about the security of US diplomats based there.


That's CNN reporting...not Fox News.

Biden fucked this withdrawal up royally due to HIS poor leadership and HIS poor decision making. Blaming anyone else is gaslighting and revisionist history.

The buck stops with Biden. That is the fact the democrats need everyone to ignore... because they are rightly embarrassed that they installed this mental deficient President.

NATO is unquestionable correct not to trust Biden's judgement. He himself proved he couldn't lead a successful military operation.

And if he did manage to fuck things up again... which is almost a certainty... the only people his lying discipleship like Bobob and Lesh have to shift blame to is NATO.

And that's exactly what those lying pieces of shit would do.
 
Biden is an idiot. Trump said don't pull out all the troops until conditions are met...
Hilarious. Trumpybear was the one who reduced our troops from 14,000 to 8,600 under the surrender agreement, even though the Taliban had met only one condition. Then when he lost the election he tried to pull all the troops out of everywhere. When the military pushed back, your guy agreed to leave the bare minimum they said they needed. 2,500. 6,100 below what he agreed too in Doha.. He even bragged about how he hamstrung the next administration with it too.
 
The military had a plan... Joe overrode it.

Washington (CNN) --hPresident Joe Biden ordered the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan over the advice of some of his senior-most advisers in the Pentagon and State Department, leaders who are now charged with carrying out the particulars of the complicated drawdown.
Multiple current and former officials tell CNN that those advisers -- including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, leader of US Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie and some State Department officials -- expressed concerns about what a full withdrawal might mean for the US counter-terror mission. They also expressed concern about the security of US diplomats based there.


That's CNN reporting...not Fox News.

Biden fucked this withdrawal up royally due to HIS poor leadership and HIS poor decision making. Blaming anyone else is gaslighting and revisionist history.

The buck stops with Biden. That is the fact the democrats need everyone to ignore... because they are rightly embarrassed that they installed this mental deficient President.

NATO is unquestionable correct not to trust Biden's judgement. He himself proved he couldn't lead a successful military operation.

And if he did manage to fuck things up again... which is almost a certainty... the only people his lying discipleship like Bobob and Lesh have to shift blame to is NATO.

And that's exactly what those lying pieces of shit would do.
The military didn't like tump's plan for withdrawal, either. Tump created the monster and of course it will take time to correct it. Lying pieces of shit, my ass, you ignorant toad.
 
It is why our allied no longer feel they can trust us in the long term. We might allow that POS to take power in 2024. Besides, that was before Biden took office. The Generals testified he order them to come up with several contingency plans, and they did.
That's a good one... the reason NATO and the EU aren't including Biden is because of Trump... :rofl:

Your TDS knows no bounds.

It couldn't possibly be because Biden is such a fuckup that no one in their right mind would trust him to make a good decision about what to eat for breakfast much less the fate of the world.

Biden have Putin a green light to invade Ukraine on live tv during primetime last week.

Two weeks ago his party at his behest filibustered sanctions on Russia.

And Biden lifted the sanctions on Russia that allowed them to finish their pipeline.

The only truly remarkable thing about not trusting Biden is that, given the evidence, you don't AGREE.
 
The military had a plan... Joe overrode it.

Washington (CNN) --hPresident Joe Biden ordered the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan over the advice of some of his senior-most advisers in the Pentagon and State Department, leaders who are now charged with carrying out the particulars of the complicated drawdown.
Multiple current and former officials tell CNN that those advisers -- including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, leader of US Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie and some State Department officials -- expressed concerns about what a full withdrawal might mean for the US counter-terror mission. They also expressed concern about the security of US diplomats based there.


That's CNN reporting...not Fox News.

Biden fucked this withdrawal up royally due to HIS poor leadership and HIS poor decision making. Blaming anyone else is gaslighting and revisionist history.

The buck stops with Biden. That is the fact the democrats need everyone to ignore... because they are rightly embarrassed that they installed this mental deficient President.

NATO is unquestionable correct not to trust Biden's judgement. He himself proved he couldn't lead a successful military operation.

And if he did manage to fuck things up again... which is almost a certainty... the only people his lying discipleship like Bobob and Lesh have to shift blame to is NATO.

And that's exactly what those lying pieces of shit would do.
well, I think ultimately the military wanted to keep a toe hold in Afghanistan, and Obama caved in to keeping 8500 troops there after calling for an end to the war. The Taliban were going to win in any event, unless we continued to prop up our puppet govt. And to be fair to Biden, he was against Obama's troop surge. It's not like the military has a track record on being right about the "WOT" btw.

But while I'd agree with Biden that it was time to end the thing - after both Obama and Trump promised to get out and failed - his call for Americans to leave should have been more forceful. The US was telling Americans we were leaving for months before we did it, but IN RETROSPECT we should have been telling LOUDLY all non Afghans to leave immediately ... way back in Feb. But we really did fuck over Nato, but there was never going to be a happy ending.
 
Then why didn't the Taliban take over when there were 2500 troops dumbass.

Because they couldn't.

Biden's unconditional withdrawal with no plan whatsoever caused the fall of Afghanistan... there isn't a brush in the world big enough to paint it any other way.

The only condition the Taliban ever met was the truce with American forces.

The Generals testimony proves you are lying when you parrot that the Military had no withdrawal plan.
 
Gaslighting revisionist history and complete bullshit.

Biden handed them the country on a silver platter. We all watched it happen.

Your alternate facts don't fly here.

Straight from the gaping maw of the TrumpyBear!

"How about that? Worse than Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame."

Donald Trump: (22:53)
 
The only condition the Taliban ever met was the truce with American forces.

The Generals testimony proves you are lying when you parrot that the Military had no withdrawal plan.

Show me where a said the military didn't have a plan Señor Strawman.

I never said the military didn't have a plan...I said Biden ignored it...

Washington (CNN) -
President Joe Biden ordered the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan over the advice of some of his senior-most advisers in the Pentagon and State Department, leaders who are now charged with carrying out the particulars of the complicated drawdown.
Multiple current and former officials tell CNN that those advisers -- including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, leader of US Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie and some State Department officials -- expressed concerns about what a full withdrawal might mean for the US counter-terror mission. They also expressed concern about the security of US diplomats based there.


That's CNN...not Fox News.
 
The military had a plan... Joe overrode it.

Washington (CNN) --hPresident Joe Biden ordered the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan over the advice of some of his senior-most advisers in the Pentagon and State Department, leaders who are now charged with carrying out the particulars of the complicated drawdown.
Multiple current and former officials tell CNN that those advisers -- including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley, leader of US Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie and some State Department officials -- expressed concerns about what a full withdrawal might mean for the US counter-terror mission. They also expressed concern about the security of US diplomats based there.


That's CNN reporting...not Fox News.

Biden fucked this withdrawal up royally due to HIS poor leadership and HIS poor decision making. Blaming anyone else is gaslighting and revisionist history.

The buck stops with Biden. That is the fact the democrats need everyone to ignore... because they are rightly embarrassed that they installed this mental deficient President.

NATO is unquestionable correct not to trust Biden's judgement. He himself proved he couldn't lead a successful military operation.

And if he did manage to fuck things up again... which is almost a certainty... the only people his lying discipleship like Bobob and Lesh have to shift blame to is NATO.

And that's exactly what those lying pieces of shit would do.
This may be right, but I’m skeptical. The corporate media has a long history of protecting our oversized military.
 

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