Not Biden: It's Democrat Policy

[Stryder50]

No, I don't consider Islam the cause of the trouble we're speaking of between the Zionist regime and Islam.
OBL stated his beliefs to be one of the two reasons why he masterminded the 911 attacks.

That is the perception of a very large faction of the Islamic world.

I greatly fear that a US and/or Zionist hit on Iran will bring similar revenge attacks.

Islam could take an extremist position that the most extremist attack on America is warranted.

Cooperation with Europe, Russia, and other concerned parties is the logical approach for America now.

Trump's foolish move has only resulted in a much worse situation now that Iran has gained the ability to wipe the Zionist regime off the map.

Iran is a peaceful nation and war is not their ambition. They have only ever been reactive to US/Zionist aggression.

Straight from the Islamic Jihad playbook this.

Fundamental Islamic (Jihad) policy and agenda has been;
1) Convert all humanity to Islam.
2) use any means possible, especially (physical) Jihad = Warfare to accomplish #1 above. As stated by the Prophet (bbhn) in Koran and Hadith.

Tangent to this is that any lands, once under the domination of Islam and Sharia must be returned to the Dar al-Islam if taken by the infidels, hence are a target of the Dar al-Harb(War).

Divisions of the world in Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fortunately, a majority of Muslims don't desire to actively engage in violence/war, so only a small percentage need be countered. However, the ideology(theology) could use major revision; were such possible.

 

[Ringtone]

That explains a lot of what I've been wondering about. You aren't but at least you 'consider'.
Those asking me to explain what a Zionist is can ask you.

I will regard them as separate from the normal and decent Israelis or Jewish people.

The Future of the Democratic Party Continued. . . .

While the Democratic Party demonizes white people, it's the real fount of anti-Israeli rhetoric and anti-Semitic sentiment in America and abroad:

. . . An anti-Israel faction has taken root among Democrats and was on full display during Israel’s clash with Hamas. Because that faction is largely synonymous with the party’s ascendant far-left wing, more moderate Dems are increasingly afraid to speak up for Israel, just as they are afraid to speak up against the emergence of socialism and anti-white racism in their party. ​

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Even instances of overt anti-Semitism cannot shake them from their silence. ​

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The Dems’ gradual divorce from Israel picked up speed under Barack Obama, who took apology tours to Arab capitals and wooed Iran while giving Israel the back of his hand. Donald Trump flipped the script by embracing Israel, recognizing Jerusalem as its capital and moving our embassy there. Trump also withdrew from Obama’s feckless nuclear pact with Iran. ​

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But now the pendulum is swinging back again as President Biden bends to the radical elements of his party. ​

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The 11-day war that was halted with Thursday’s cease-fire revealed how Hamas has vastly expanded and improved its rocket arsenal. Thankfully, most of the unguided explosives were no match for Israel’s superior offensive and defensive capabilities, but this was the first time the terrorists in Gaza put all of Israel in their rockets’ range. . . .​

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. . . The despair is the growing size of the Dems’ anti-Israel contingent and that Biden spun around like a weather vane in a wind storm. ​

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At first, the president acted the part of a Truman Democrat and instinctively supported Israel’s right of self-defense. But as casualties mounted in Gaza, the criticism grew and the president surrendered. ​

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A defining moment came last Tuesday when Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, the first Palestinian woman elected to Congress, confronted Biden at the Detroit airport and argued American aid to Israel was funding atrocities against Palestinians. ​

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The tarmac face-off lasted eight minutes, and Biden later lavished praise on Tlaib’s “passion and concern for so many people.” Presumably, her concern doesn’t include the Jews Hamas vows to eliminate. ​

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The very next day, Biden flipped sides and demanded Israel de-escalate immediately and move toward a cease-fire. ​

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As is always the case with appeasement, retreat did not earn him any good will. Sen. Bernie Sanders and others ramped up their demand for a halt to a weapons sale to Israel Biden had approved, and Tlaib and others continued their criticism of him and the Jewish nation.​

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Much of it was simply unhinged. Rep. Pramila Jayapal of Washington effectively defended Hamas starting the war with a rocket barrage of civilian populations, telling CNN that Israel provoked the attack. ​

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Her defense of the indefensible reveals similarities between Trump Derangement Syndrome and Jew hatred. There’s no known cure or vaccine for either. ​

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While far-left groups long attracted an anti-Semitic fringe, it’s now difficult to detect much difference between the groups and the fringe. One development is the effort to tailor grievances in hopes of uniting different causes against Israel.​

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“Palestinians are being told the same thing as black folks in America: There is no acceptable form of resistance,” Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.), a member of the “Squad,” said on the House floor.​

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Black Lives Matter weighed in, saying it “stands in solidarity with Palestinians” on Twitter and threw around buzzwords designed to link America’s supposed sins with Israel’s. ​

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“We are a movement committed to ending settler colonialism in all forms and will continue to advocate for Palestinian liberation,” the Marxist-inspired group added with the hashtag #freepalestine.​

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The repellent BDS movement followed with a repeat of its call for an economic embargo of Israel. ​

Sadly, ganging up on the lone Jewish state did not end in words, with anti-Semitic violence breaking out in American cities, including New York. Police took 19 people into custody after a Times Square clash between supporters of Hamas and Israel. A 29-year-old Jewish man was beaten, an Israeli flag was burned and fireworks were thrown toward the supporters of Israel. ​

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Jewish diners at a Los Angeles restaurant were assaulted by a pro-Palestinian mob of about 30 men. A witness said attackers ran from table to table, demanding to know “who’s Jewish.”​

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Alarmed at the violence perpetrated by its allies, another radical group tried to split hairs among its fellow travelers. CodePink national co-director Ariel Gold, identifying herself as an anti-Zionist Jew, denounced Israel as an “apartheid state” and also violence against Jews. . . .​

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Inside the Dems’ betrayal of Israel: Goodwin

Members on the far-left side of the Democratic party have shifted from the party Truman ran at the end of the 1940s and have been anti-Israel, writes columnist Michael Goodwin.

nypost.com

 

[Donald H]

Before Trump, Iran was all about loving us and Israel, right?

no. America started the trouble with iran when it overthrew iran's elected democracy and installed a US puppet dictator.

 

[Stryder50]

Actually, America(USA) has been divided ever since our inception. About one third supported the Independence, another third remained loyal to The Crown, and about a third was on the fence, and flexed a bit. The case of Israel depends largely on one's position regards World War Two and the defeated Nazi's agenda regards elimination of the Jewish population.

Obama was only credible to those whom shared his Leftist~socialist/communist ideology and agenda. To the rest of us, real and Constitutional Americans, he spoke frequently with a forked tongue; or to use the Islamic term; taqiya/taggiya.

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam - TheReligionofPeace​

Taqiyya - WikiIslam​

His biological father was a bigamist whom abandoned his wife and children when he left Kenya to attend university in America(Hawaii). Where he married Barry's mother and left her and Barry when he was very young. Barry's mother then married another Muslim, moved to Indonesia where Barry/Hussein attended an Islamic school and reportedly also converted to Islam. It is the policy of Islam that once a Muslim, always a Muslim. Hence to renounce Islam is often seen as punishable by death. However, one can imply the principle/policy of Taqiya/Taqiyya which was why/how Hussein could deny he was Islamic/Muslim.

Barry acquired thew name of his biological father, hence he should be considered to have a suffix of "jr." attached. As for referring to him as "Hussein", many persons go by their middle name. I for one do such, but that was set by my family shortly after birth since I also was named after my mother's father.

While Barry might prefer "Barack", Hussein is totally accurate. BTW, you should read his first two (autobiographical) books, which some of us know as his "Mien Kampf - Vol. One" & "Mien Kampf - Vol. Two). I've oft noticed on these boards that I seem to one of the few whom have done so (if he hadn't become POTUS, you'd have to pay me to read such dreck).

Dreams from My Father - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Audacity of Hope - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

no. America started the trouble with iran when it overthrew iran's elected democracy and installed a US puppet dictator.

That's awful!

How's their elected democracy working today?

They'd be justified if they nuked us now, right?

 

[Ringtone]

America is at least now quite divided because of the realization that Zionist aggression has been made obvious to the rest of the world and it can be defended.

That's mostly due to Obama's voice being the loudest and the most credible voice coming out of America. And also the fact that any voice opposed to Trump's idiocy has automatic credibility.

Hussein Obama indeed!

You write:

America is at least now quite divided because of the realization that Zionist aggression has been made obvious to the rest of the world and it can be defended.​

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That's mostly due to Obama's voice being the loudest. . . .​

By all means, let's examine the record of Barak Hussein Obama's anti-Israeli rhetoric, which has served to make the world a more dangerous place, indeed, engendered a growing crop of anti-Semitic halfwits at home and abroad, and emboldened Islamofascists:

A Complete Timeline of Obama’s Anti-Israel Hatred​

According to reports, President Obama finally called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to congratulate him – but the “congratulations” was actually a lecture directed at forcing Netanyahu to surrender to the terrorist Palestinian regime.​

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For some odd reason, many in the media and Congress reacted with surprise to Obama’s supposedly sudden turn on Israel. . . .​

Allow me a moment of laughter. Back to the article:

. . . The media, in an attempt to defend Obama’s radicalism, pretend that Netanyahu’s comments in the late stages of his campaign prompted Obama’s anti-Israel action.​

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But, in truth, this is the culmination of a longtime Obama policy of destroying the US-Israel relationship; Obama has spent his entire life surrounded by haters of Israel, from former Palestine Liberation Organization spokesman Rashid Khalidi to former Jimmy Carter National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, pro-Hamas negotiator Robert Malley to UN Ambassador Samantha Power (who once suggested using American troops to guard Palestinians from Israelis), Jeremiah Wright (who said “Them Jews ain’t going to let him talk to me”) to Professor Derrick Bell (“Jewish neoconservative racists…are undermining blacks in every way they can”).​

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Here is a concise timeline, with credit to Dan Senor and the editors of Commentary:​

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February 2008: Obama says while campaigning, ‘There is a strain within the pro-Israel community that says unless you adopt an unwavering pro-Likud approach to Israel that you’re anti-Israel.” At the time, as Dan Senor pointed out in The Wall Street Journal, Israel was run by the Kadima government run by Ehud Olmert, Tzipi Livni, and Shimon Peres, and was attempting desperately to bring the Palestinians to the table. Instead, the Palestinians launch war, as always.​

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June 2008: Obama tells the American Israel Public Affairs Conference that Jerusalem ought to remain undivided, attempting to woo Jewish votes. He then walks that back the next day, saying only that the capital shouldn’t be divided by barbed wire.​

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March 2009: The Obama administration reverses the Bush era policy of not joining the United Nations Human Rights Council. Secretary of State Clinton said, “Human rights are an essential element of American global foreign policy,” completely neglecting the UNHRC’s abysmally anti-Semitic record. The Washington Post reported that the administration joined the Human Rights Council even though they conceded that it “has devoted excessive attention to alleged abuses by Israel and too little to abuses in places such as Darfur, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe.”​

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May 2009: Obama tells Netanyahu that “settlements have to be stopped in order for us to move forward.” Netanyahu announces a settlement freeze to comply. The Palestinians refuse to negotiate. Obama then slams Israel: “they still found it very hard to move with any bold gestures.”​

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June 2009: Obama tells the world in his infamous Cairo speech that Israel was only created based on Jewish suffering in the Holocaust. He then says that Palestinians have been similarly victimized by the Jews: “They endure the daily humiliations – large and small – that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: the situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own.”​

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July 2009: Obama threatens to put “daylight” between the United States and Israel. He tells Jewish leaders, “Look at the past eight years. During those eight years, there was no space between us and Israel, and what did we get from that?” Except for Israel forcibly removing thousands of Jews from the Gaza Strip, the election of Hamas, and the launch of war by the Palestinians and Hezbollah, nothing happened. Obama then lectures the Jews about the need for Israeli “self-reflection.” The same month, Obama tells CNN that the United States would “absolutely not” give Israel permission to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities.​

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September 2009: Obama tells the United Nations that “America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.” Obama’s definition of Israeli settlements, as the world soon learned, included building bathrooms in a home already owned by Jews in East Jerusalem. Obama offers no serious criticism of the Palestinians.​

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March 2010: Obama follows up on his threatening language about settlements by deploying Vice President Joe Biden to Israel, where Biden rips into the Israelis for building bathrooms in Jerusalem, the eternal Jewish capital. Hillary Clinton then yells at Netanyahu for nearly an hour on the phone, telling him he had “harmed the bilateral relationship.” David Axelrod calls the building plans an “insult” to the United States. When Netanyahu visits the White House a week and a half later, Obama makes him leave via a side door.​

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April 2010: Obama refuses to prevent the Washington summit on nuclear proliferation from becoming an Arab referendum on the evils of Israel’s nukes.​

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June 2010: An anonymous “US defense source” leaks to the Times of London that Israel had cut a deal with the Saudis to use their airspace to strike Iran. The deal is scuttled.​

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May 2011: The State Department labeled Jerusalem not a part of Israel. The same month, Obama demanded that Israel make concessions to the Palestinians based on the pre-1967 borders, which Israelis call the “Auschwitz borders” thanks to their indefensibility.​

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November 2011: Obama and French president Nicolas Sarkozy are caught on open mic ripping Netanyahu, with Sarkozy stating, “I can’t stand him, he’s a liar,” and Obama replying, “You’re tired of him? What about me? I have to deal with him every day.”​

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December 2011: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rips into the State of Israel, stating that it is moving in the “opposite direction” of democracy. She said that Israel reminded her of Rosa Parks, and that religious people not listening to women sing – a millennia-long policy among some segments of the Orthodox – reminds her of extremist regimes, adding that it seemed “more suited to Iran than Israel.“ . . .​

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A Complete Timeline of Obama's Anti-Israel Hatred

This is the culmination of a longtime Obama policy of destroying the US-Israel relationship.

www.breitbart.com

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[Donald H]

You write:

America is at least now quite divided because of the realization that Zionist aggression has been made obvious to the rest of the world and it can be defended.​

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That's mostly due to Obama's voice being the loudest. . . .​

As i suggested.
you seem to be of the opinion that I support any of the US presidents that have started wars of aggression throughout the world since the end of WW2. I don't!

However, you've said nothing to rebut the fact that Obama's voice is the loudest voice coming out of America.

 

[Donald H]

That's awful!

How's their elected democracy working today?

Iran is surviving US aggression, mostly due to the fact that Trump made the wrong move when he destroyed the 5+1 nuclear deal with Iran.

Trump's action alienated all the other parties to the agreement and has resulted in no agreement other than on terms that are suitable to Iran and all other parties, except America. Only America can't agree to the new deal, and now Iran is talking tougher and acting as they choose because the US only wants war.

If Iran desires nuclear weapons to deter the US, they will have them soon. It's more likely they don't now because they are secure under China's and Russia's nuclear umbrella. That's as obvious as the Ukraine doesn't need nuclear weapons.

They'd be justified if they nuked us now, right?

Childish comments aren't deserving of a reply.

 

[Ringtone]

Actually, America(USA) has been divided ever since our inception. About one third supported the Independence, another third remained loyal to The Crown, and about a third was on the fence, and flexed a bit. The case of Israel depends largely on one's position regards World War Two and the defeated Nazi's agenda regards elimination of the Jewish population.

Obama was only credible to those whom shared his Leftist~socialist/communist ideology and agenda. To the rest of us, real and Constitutional Americans, he spoke frequently with a forked tongue; or to use the Islamic term; taqiya/taggiya.

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam - TheReligionofPeace​

Taqiyya - WikiIslam​

His biological father was a bigamist whom abandoned his wife and children when he left Kenya to attend university in America(Hawaii). Where he married Barry's mother and left her and Barry when he was very young. Barry's mother then married another Muslim, moved to Indonesia where Barry/Hussein attended an Islamic school and reportedly also converted to Islam. It is the policy of Islam that once a Muslim, always a Muslim. Hence to renounce Islam is often seen as punishable by death. However, one can imply the principle/policy of Taqiya/Taqiyya which was why/how Hussein could deny he was Islamic/Muslim.

Barry acquired thew name of his biological father, hence he should be considered to have a suffix of "jr." attached. As for referring to him as "Hussein", many persons go by their middle name. I for one do such, but that was set by my family shortly after birth since I also was named after my mother's father.

While Barry might prefer "Barack", Hussein is totally accurate. BTW, you should read his first two (autobiographical) books, which some of us know as his "Mien Kampf - Vol. One" & "Mien Kampf - Vol. Two). I've oft noticed on these boards that I seem to one of the few whom have done so (if he hadn't become POTUS, you'd have to pay me to read such dreck).

Dreams from My Father - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Audacity of Hope - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah, yes, taqiyya, also known as gaslighting in realspeak, is the means by which Obama practiced is true religion of Islam while in office as he identified as Christian for public consumption.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Iran is surviving US aggression, mostly due to the fact that Trump made the wrong move when he destroyed the 5+1 nuclear deal with Iran.

Trump's action alienated all the other parties to the agreement and has resulted in no agreement other than on terms that are suitable to Iran and all other parties, except America. Only America can't agree to the new deal, and now Iran is talking tougher and acting as they choose because the US only wants war.

If Iran desires nuclear weapons to deter the US, they will have them soon. It's more likely they don't now because they are secure under China's and Russia's nuclear umbrella. That's as obvious as the Ukraine doesn't need nuclear weapons.

Childish comments aren't deserving of a reply.

No word on how their elected democracy is working today?

 

[Ringtone]

That's awful!

How's their elected democracy working today?

They'd be justified if they nuked us now, right?

That's the funniest damn thing I've read in some time.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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Nothing better illustrates the Biden administration's deep-seated antipathy towards Israel than the leaking of highly classified material about the alleged role Israeli intelligence played in the assassination of a top-ranking Iranian terrorist, Colonel Sayad Khodayee, of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Pictured: General Hossein Salami, head of the IRGC, attends Khodayee's funeral in Tehran, on May 24, 2022. (Photo by Atta Kenare/AFP via Getty Images)





Democrats helping America's enemies, and hurting America's allies.

Iran must be paying the Bidens for this

 

[PoliticalChic]

Iran must be paying the Bidens for this

There are three reasons for treason....

Ideology

Sex

Money




Looks like you're right.

 

[marvin martian]

It's fair to separate the people of Israel and Jewish people from the Zionist faction that is the cause of all the trouble.
That's my attempt to be proactive against anti-semitism.

i've attempted to turn Chicy's hate rant into a worthwhile discussion but that's all I can do if her and her audience choose to behave like naughty children.

If that's the intent of this thread, I'll be out of here quicker than I came in.

Anti-semites like you have used the "Zionism vs Judaism" canard to try to hide your Jew-hatred for years. It's a common thing in the DemoKKKrat party, but the fact that you people have recently elected FOUR Holocaust deniers to represent you in Congress is the most telling symptom of the cancer in your party.

 

[Donald H]

Anti-semites like you have used the "Zionism vs Judaism" canard to try to hide your Jew-hatred for years. It's a common thing in the DemoKKKrat party, but the fact that you people have recently elected FOUR Holocaust deniers to represent you in Congress is the most telling symptom of the cancer in your party.

I'm a non-biased Canadian observer so I can buy you a 'maple syrup' flavour ice cream cone.

 

[Ringtone]

As i suggested.
you seem to be of the opinion that I support any of the US presidents that have started wars of aggression throughout the world since the end of WW2. I don't!

However, you've said nothing to rebut the fact that Obama's voice is the loudest voice coming out of America.

That's because I was busy recounting Obama's record of wicked and destabilizing anti-Israeli rhetoric, not disputing the fact that he has a big mouth full of vile lies.

 

[Stryder50]

no. America started the trouble with iran when it overthrew iran's elected democracy and installed a US puppet dictator.

As usual, much depends on when and where chooses to start a retro timeline and perspective.

The West's (USA and UK mainly) interest in Persia/Iran in current time-frame should trace to WWII and use of Persia for a land-line route of Lend-Lease to the USSR in their fight against Nazi-Germany invasion(aggression).

The Post War(WWII) World, and the chaos and flux that ensued, helped set the stage -
EXCERPT:
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... Under the reign of Nader Shah in the 18th century, Iran once again became a major world power,[20] though by the 19th century, a series of conflicts with the Russian Empire led to significant territorial losses.[21][22] The early 20th century saw the Persian Constitutional Revolution. Efforts to nationalize its fossil fuel supply from Western companies led to an Anglo-American coup in 1953, which resulted in greater autocratic rule under Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and growing Western political influence.[23] He went on to launch a far-reaching series of reforms in 1963.[24] After the Iranian Revolution, the current Islamic Republic was established in 1979[25] by Ruhollah Khomeini, who became the country's first Supreme Leader.
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Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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There are also the events of WWII conflict to factor in;

Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab world - Wikipedia​

How Nazis courted the Islamic world during WWII | Middle East - DW​

Nazis in the Middle East: Assessing Links Between Nazism and Islam​

The Nazis, with the help of an Arab cleric, used Islamic extremists as ...​

 

[Stryder50]

I'm a non-biased Canadian observer so I can buy you a 'maple syrup' flavour ice cream cone.

"Canadian" perhaps, but not "non-biased".
Your bias and prejudice "skirt is showing" all thru this thread.

 

[marvin martian]

I'm a non-biased Canadian observer so I can buy you a 'maple syrup' flavour ice cream cone.

As I said, like many on the left, you're an anti-Semite. Canadian leftists are well known Jew-haters, too.

 

[Stryder50]

As i suggested.
you seem to be of the opinion that I support any of the US presidents that have started wars of aggression throughout the world since the end of WW2. I don't!

However, you've said nothing to rebut the fact that Obama's voice is the loudest voice coming out of America.

Obama's voice is loudest only to the socialist/communist, Leftist, and other bottom feeders in the World. To those of us with honesty and integrity along with Life, Liberty, Prosperity as values, BHO was another forked-tongue deceiver.