Noem confuses a constitutional right with its abuse. Imagine my surprise.

[struth]

Wrong.

If you “break the law” and kill someone you still get due process

Sure but the level of due process for a criminal and civil case are vastly different

 

[pknopp]

"Simply reinforcing what our constitution says?"
Ok. Like in 1973 when SCOTUS ruled that the constitution said that the choice to abort a pregnancy was every woman's constitutiinal right......but then decades later a different court took that right away?
See, that's what I mean about interpretation.
All of our "rights" are defined simply by how the current high court chooses to interpret the words of the constitution....and that changes depending upon the makeup of the court.
At present the court's position is that all rights to due process bestowed upon citizens are also afforded to non citizens.
That is why the High Court has ruled against Trump on the matter of Habeus Corpus for deportees.

What they actually ruled was a right to privacy was in the Constitution.

 

[struth]

Should HC be suspended… you have no protection from being arrested for anything. If the DOJ decided to arrest you for OWNING A GUN… you would have no recourse because you would be GONE.

Stuck in some prison cell with no hope of having your case adjudicated

HC doesn’t protect you from being arrested you idiot

Of course you’d have a recourse, a bond hearing, preliminary hearing and trial

HC has nothing to do with that

Moreover owning a gun isn’t illegal in and of itself

Being in the United States without authority is in of itself illegal

 

[struth]

No that wasn’t what Roe found..Griswold was the first case to find a right to privacy

What roe said was while a woman has right to privacy to terminate her pregnancy that the state
Has a legit overriding interesting In protecting the health of the woman and unborn child that gets more compelling through later stages of pregnancy

 

[Lesh]

HC doesn’t protect you from being arrested you idiot

Of course you’d have a recourse, a bond hearing, preliminary hearing and trial

HC has nothing to do with that

Moreover owning a gun isn’t illegal in and of itself

Being in the United States without authority is in of itself illegal

How stupid are you?

No one said HC keeps you from being arrested

It allows you to CHALLENGE that arrest

Moron

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I just went over this. The people of the United States are more likely to have those rights "guaranteed" protected by the Bill of Rights of the U.S. Constitution violated than to have the "privilege" of habeas corpus suspended.

Far too many seem to be focused on the wrong thing.

You are right.

 

[MagicMike]

What they actually ruled was a right to privacy was in the Constitution.

Thats just semantics. If you want to say it's all only about privacy then the Dobbs decision a few years ago actually said that women no longer have a constitutional right to privacy.
How regressive!

 

[struth]

How stupid are you?

No one said HC keeps you from being arrested

It allows you to CHALLENGE that arrest

Moron

Again no it doesn’t you idiot

It allows you to challenge any dentition/incarceration

People can bring up HC after a jury convicted them and sentenced them

You don’t bring a HC petition to simply challenge an arrest

Once again you dembots prove you are clueless as to what the privledge is even for

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

As stupid as Noem...

Noem can be stupid, so don't you be.

 

[pknopp]

Thats just semantics. If you want to say it's all only about privacy then the Dobbs decision a few years ago actually said that women no longer have a constitutional right to privacy.
How regressive!

They ruled a right to privacy isn't a right to an abortion.

In that case it's all mostly moot as very little actually changed.

 

[buckeye]

Like in 1973 when SCOTUS ruled that the constitution said that the choice to abort a pregnancy was every woman's constitutiinal right......but then decades later a different court took that right away?

Sometimes he Supremes get it wrong. Just like this:

Brown v. Board of Education - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lesh]

Again no it doesn’t you idiot

It allows you to challenge any dentition/incarceration

People can bring up HC after a jury convicted them and sentenced them

You don’t bring a HC petition to simply challenge an arrest

Once again you dembots prove you are clueless as to what the privledge is even for

“Challenge any detention”

Exactly. Why do you think arrest is? Yeah. Detention.

Without it, you get arrested and that’s it .

You stay locked up as long as the entity that has detained you wants you there.

Ya know… like Garcia in Rl Salvador

 

[Lesh]

Sometimes he Supremes get it wrong. Just like this:

Brown v. Board of Education - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So Brown V Board “got it wrong”?

I bet you think Dred Scott got it right

 

[struth]

“Challenge any detention”

Exactly. Why do you think arrest is? Yeah. Detention.

Without it, you get arrested and that’s it .

You stay locked up as long as the entity that has detained you wants you there.

Ya know… like Garcia in Rl Salvador

You can be released after being arrested, and if you are at liberty a HC petition is moot

What are you talking about? People get arrested and are released all the time.

In cases of illegals trump is trying to release them even faster and the dembots are saying no slow down, keep them locked up so they can challenge their detention

 

[Orangecat]

MAGA has its own alternate definitions to match their own alternate reality.
We see it on this board, every single day.

Do you know what a woman is, Mac-a-doodle?

 

[struth]

They ruled a right to privacy isn't a right to an abortion.

In that case it's all mostly moot as very little actually changed.

No they simply said that the constitution does not give someone a right to an abortion

 

[Lesh]

You can be released after being arrested, and if you are at liberty a HC petition is moot

What are you talking about? People get arrested and are released all the time.

In cases of illegals trump is trying to release them even faster and the dembots are saying no slow down, keep them locked up so they can challenge their detention

And what if you DON’T get released? Without HC you rot in jail.

Like Garcia. Authorities grant releases precisely BECAUSE of HC

 

[Lesh]

Do you know what a woman is, Mac-a-doodle?

I know what a troll is

You

 

[struth]

And what if you DON’T get released? Without HC you rot in jail.

Like Garcia. Authorities grant releases precisely BECAUSE of HC

No there are bond hearings, preliminary hearings and trials as well

Suspended HC doesn’t mean those go away

 

[Mac1958]

Do you know what a woman is, Mac-a-doodle?

Well Trumpster, that would be an adult human female.

I'm glad I can explain that for you, slugger!