'No Separation Of Church And State': Trump's Religious Liberty Commission Reveals Its Priorities

[HikerGuy83]

You’re claiming there’s no Separation of Church and State, right?

We are saying that concept does not exist as constitutional.

It is a bastardization of the 1st Amendment.

Congress shall make no laws........

 

[HikerGuy83]

Neither have you. I’m not the one making a claim against precedent.

Yes you are.

We prayed in schools for 175 years.

We had state run religions for almost 50 years after the constitution went into effect.

Where is your precedent for this long standing doctrine.

Answer: It does not exist.

 

[HikerGuy83]

MAGA seems to think differently.

We said the concept does not exist as stated in the constitution.

You can't produce it.

I already showed where Clarence Thomas says state sponsored religions could exist constitutionally.

He trumps your know-nothing ass.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The Constitution is a living document.

That's another load of crap.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The Constitution says very little. Most interpretations are found in case law.

You mean like Roe

........

or Dobbs?

 

[HikerGuy83]

No, I just don't buy that interpretations make the Constitution a 'living document.'

They don't.

Al Gore (what a perfect last name) said it and so you know it's ********

 

[HikerGuy83]

It’s had to be interpreted from the start, hence “living document”.

The current SCOTUS has a majority of judges who operate on the concept of original intent.

There is no living document that adapts to today's world.

Any judge, like Sotomeyer, who interprets it that way should be removed.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The fact that prayer is not allowed in class proves I’m right.

It says you can't compel which is the correct way to look at it.

In private schools they pray all the time.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The Constitution says very little. Most interpretations are found in case law.

In a series of two decisions known as the School Prayer Cases, the Supreme Court famously held that the Establishment Clause forbids state-sponsored prayer in public schools—even where the government provides opt-outs for dissenters. Yet subsequent legal developments have rendered those decisions unstable.

History and the School Prayer Cases - Virginia Law Review

In a series of two decisions known as the School Prayer Cases, the Supreme Court famously held that the Establishment Clause forbids state-sponsored prayer in public schools—even where the government provides opt-outs for dissenters. Yet subsequent legal developments have rendered those...

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It always comes home to mama (sensibility).

The cries of the left and their efforts to remove all religion from the public arena are going to fail.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The 1st Amendment does apply to the states.

Incorporation of the Bill of Rights - Wikipedia

BTW: When did incorporation of the 1st begin?

Date please.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Then what makes Christianity great then?

Without Christians it wouldn’t be anything.

With your type of Christians, you are right. It is not anything worthwhile.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Agreed, so many demfasict hate Jews and believie in political prosecutions

They adopt assassination culture https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/Assassination-Culture.pdf

And Republikkkans like you.

 

[theHawk]

With your type of Christians, you are right. It is not anything worthwhile.

In other words real Christians that reject the degeneracy the left promotes.

 

[konradv]

The Constitution is short and succinct. The Founders made it difficult to change it. It is not a living document at all by your definition.

It is a living document. The Founders left a lot of wiggle room, because they realized times change.

 

[konradv]

It is here. The rich are slaves.

 

[konradv]

We are saying that concept does not exist as constitutional.

It is a bastardization of the 1st Amendment.

Congress shall make no laws........

You’re wrong. It may not have been a thing at one time, but it isn’t now.

 

[konradv]

Oh...you found it.

So now......tell us how it applies.

I’m not doing your homework for you.

 

[konradv]

That fact that it was there for 175 years shows you are wrong as wrong in your claims of "hundreds of years of court rulings". Total horsecrap.

The country is 250 years old, so that qualifies as hundreds of years.

 

[konradv]

BTW: When did incorporation of the 1st begin?

Date please.

Do some reading.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is a mandate for freedom of religion.

A mandate that is not absolute. Is that truly a mandate?