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Traditional Values Coalition isn't a scientific organization so much as Right-wing Christian Fundamentalist hate group.
List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The Traditional Values Coalition (TVC) is an American conservative Christian organization that represents, by its estimate, over 43,000 Christian churches throughout the United States of America. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., its belief is in Bible-based traditional values as "[a] moral code and behavior based upon the Old and New Testaments." The group considers traditional values to include a belief "that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that the Lord has given us a rule book to live by: The Bible" and a commitment to "living, as far as it is possible, by the moral precepts taught by Jesus Christ and by the whole counsel of God as revealed in the Bible." The organization was founded by the Reverend Louis P. Sheldon who is the current chairman. His daughter Andrea Sheldon Lafferty is the executive director.[135]
The Traditional Values Coalition has been labelled an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[33] Tony Perkins asked SPLC to retract the hate group designation but the SPLC refused to back down stating the groups were added to the list for spreading "known falsehoods claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities and repeated, groundless name-calling.""
Hmm. Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College seems top be real(I checked). Whitman college is real.
I would assume that he is being quoted correctly, or he would sue for slander.
Mark
Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?
Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'
Let's get back on topic.
Paedophiles are not homosexuals, as proven by the recent study I cited.
Did anyone read it?
Then why did they admit to being homosexuals according to my link?
Let me be more succinct. If a pedophile can only be aroused by assaulting young boys, he is most definitely a homosexual pedophile.
Mark
Your "study" is a debunked sham put out thirty years ago by a kook at a small ecumenical college in Walla Walla Washington who's only other claim to fame was dressing up in outrageous costumes and cheerleaders the girls basketball team.
Now disprove my study.
Hmm. Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College seems top be real(I checked). Whitman college is real.
I would assume that he is being quoted correctly, or he would sue for slander.
Mark
Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?
Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'
The level of ignorance in this thread by the homophobes is staggering....
The Traditional Values Coalition has been labelled an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center
The Traditional Values Coalition has been labelled an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center
Anyone who links to the Southern Poverty Law Center signals to me that they've got a screw loose and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Picking up women and having sex with them is now a hate-crime. The Southern Poverty Law Center Is Now Writing About Pickup Artists as Hate Groups
As it happened, FBI didn't drop SPLC:
No, The FBI Hasn't Ditched The Southern Poverty Law Center | Blog | Media Matters for America
If you google around for sites you're more inclined to believe than an admittedly liberal one you'll notice if the FBI dropped SPLC ina ny way they themselves don't know anything about it.
As it happened, FBI didn't drop SPLC:
No, The FBI Hasn't Ditched The Southern Poverty Law Center | Blog | Media Matters for America
If you google around for sites you're more inclined to believe than an admittedly liberal one you'll notice if the FBI dropped SPLC ina ny way they themselves don't know anything about it.
I'm not talking about the FBI, I'm talking about YOU. YOU linked to them as a credible source. That reflects badly on YOU. The FBI has nothing to do with this thread.
The game being played here is your deferral to an outside group which renders judgment on the acceptability of groups - "they're good, they're bad" and that you're letting other people do your thinking and judging for you strongly signals to me that I'm not going to get much out of a conversation with YOU because YOUR thoughts are predigested pablum which has been certified by others.
I think what's really going on is I blew your attempt at posting a discredited source and that made you upset.
You dissapprove of a human's sexual orientation and thus you wish to see them murdered.
Its a crime. So yeah
Homosexuality is a crime?
Its a crime. So yeah
Homosexuality is a crime?
It's obvious the trolls haven't read the study I linked to inasmuch as it debunks every one of their ignorant talking points.
Why is that?
Are they as scared of the truth as they are homosexuality?
Hmm. Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College seems top be real(I checked). Whitman college is real.
I would assume that he is being quoted correctly, or he would sue for slander.
Mark
Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?
Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'
The level of ignorance in this thread by the homophobes is staggering....
As it happened, FBI didn't drop SPLC:
No, The FBI Hasn't Ditched The Southern Poverty Law Center | Blog | Media Matters for America
If you google around for sites you're more inclined to believe than an admittedly liberal one you'll notice if the FBI dropped SPLC ina ny way they themselves don't know anything about it.
I'm not talking about the FBI, I'm talking about YOU. YOU linked to them as a credible source. That reflects badly on YOU. The FBI has nothing to do with this thread.
The game being played here is your deferral to an outside group which renders judgment on the acceptability of groups - "they're good, they're bad" and that you're letting other people do your thinking and judging for you strongly signals to me that I'm not going to get much out of a conversation with YOU because YOUR thoughts are predigested pablum which has been certified by others.
FBI seems to regard them as a credible source. Good enough for me.
I think what's really going on is I blew your attempt at posting a discredited source and that made you upset. And all you can do now is attack me like a child on the playground. Do as you will. Wanna fight go ahead, wanna call me more names, go ahead, wanna run away as others have wisely done, that might be your best bet.
I'm not talking about the FBI, I'm talking about YOU. YOU linked to them as a credible source. That reflects badly on YOU. The FBI has nothing to do with this thread.
The game being played here is your deferral to an outside group which renders judgment on the acceptability of groups - "they're good, they're bad" and that you're letting other people do your thinking and judging for you strongly signals to me that I'm not going to get much out of a conversation with YOU because YOUR thoughts are predigested pablum which has been certified by others.
FBI seems to regard them as a credible source. Good enough for me.
I think what's really going on is I blew your attempt at posting a discredited source and that made you upset. And all you can do now is attack me like a child on the playground. Do as you will. Wanna fight go ahead, wanna call me more names, go ahead, wanna run away as others have wisely done, that might be your best bet.
The FBI brags about stopping terrorists plots it makes up, that tells me all I need to know about the FBI.
FBI seems to regard them as a credible source. Good enough for me.
I think what's really going on is I blew your attempt at posting a discredited source and that made you upset. And all you can do now is attack me like a child on the playground. Do as you will. Wanna fight go ahead, wanna call me more names, go ahead, wanna run away as others have wisely done, that might be your best bet.
The FBI brags about stopping terrorists plots it makes up, that tells me all I need to know about the FBI.
Pick up your phone and to the dialtone say that, I dare you.
Homosexuality is a crime?
It's obvious the trolls haven't read the study I linked to inasmuch as it debunks every one of their ignorant talking points.
Why is that?
Are they as scared of the truth as they are homosexuality?
You are the poster that just confused somebody who said that pedophilia is a crime with them claiming homosexuality is. Does that make you a troll or an idiot?
Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?
Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'
The level of ignorance in this thread by the homophobes is staggering....
Your is almost equal to theirs, even if you don't know it.
Silly me. I actually thought this thread would educate. Instead, all were getting is the same old homophobic fear.
It's no more dangerous for a gay man to take kids camping than a straight man. In fact, you most likely went camping with a gay male as a child and didn't even know it.
You would be wrong statistically.
Mark
You might have gone camping with a homosexual man (as a boy) but (thankfully) you didn't know it but about a million mothers would be horrified if a man was responsible for their daughters camp. What does that tell you? The homosexual lobby tells parents that their boys have nothing to fear from homosexual counselors ?
Define "inordinate share" and give links that back up your assertion.
"Inordinate share" means greater than the population of gay men. Stats show that about 4% of Americans consider themselves gay. We can assume about half are men, so that gay men make up about 2% of the general population.
Exposed: Homosexual Child Molesters - Article - Traditional Values Coalition
For example: In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population.
Mark
Your Dr Rubin ' s report has been debunked by every scientific and psychiatric study since and was proven to be a shoddy, based piece of shit.
Traditional Values Coalition isn't a scientific organization so much as Right-wing Christian Fundamentalist hate group.
List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-LGBT hate groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The Traditional Values Coalition (TVC) is an American conservative Christian organization that represents, by its estimate, over 43,000 Christian churches throughout the United States of America. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., its belief is in Bible-based traditional values as "[a] moral code and behavior based upon the Old and New Testaments." The group considers traditional values to include a belief "that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that the Lord has given us a rule book to live by: The Bible" and a commitment to "living, as far as it is possible, by the moral precepts taught by Jesus Christ and by the whole counsel of God as revealed in the Bible." The organization was founded by the Reverend Louis P. Sheldon who is the current chairman. His daughter Andrea Sheldon Lafferty is the executive director.[135]
The Traditional Values Coalition has been labelled an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[33] Tony Perkins asked SPLC to retract the hate group designation but the SPLC refused to back down stating the groups were added to the list for spreading "known falsehoods claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities and repeated, groundless name-calling.""
Hmm. Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College seems top be real(I checked). Whitman college is real.
I would assume that he is being quoted correctly, or he would sue for slander.
Mark
Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?
Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'
