No, Paedophiles Are Not Homosexual

[80zephyr]

Let's get back on topic.

Paedophiles are not homosexuals, as proven by the recent study I cited.

Did anyone read it?

Then why did they admit to being homosexuals according to my link?

Let me be more succinct. If a pedophile can only be aroused by assaulting young boys, he is most definitely a homosexual pedophile.

Mark

Your "study" is a debunked sham put out thirty years ago by a kook at a small ecumenical college in Walla Walla Washington who's only other claim to fame was dressing up in outrageous costumes and cheerleaders the girls basketball team.

Now disprove my study.

Why? You haven't dis-proven mine yet? You claim to have proof, but where is it?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

Hmm. Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College seems top be real(I checked). Whitman college is real.

I would assume that he is being quoted correctly, or he would sue for slander.

Mark

Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?

Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'

The level of ignorance in this thread by the homophobes is staggering....

Alinsky would be proud of you. If you don't like the subject, "kill the messenger".

If you are here to debate, lets do so. If all you have left is name calling, I can ascertain that you have no facts to back you up.

Which is it?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

The Traditional Values Coalition has been labelled an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center

Anyone who links to the Southern Poverty Law Center signals to me that they've got a screw loose and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Picking up women and having sex with them is now a hate-crime. The Southern Poverty Law Center Is Now Writing About Pickup Artists as Hate Groups

Oh here I thought you were alluding to this:

"Christian groups are celebrating with the news that the Federal Bureau of Investigation appears to have scrubbed the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) from its hate crimes webpage, where the controversial group was listed as a resource and referred to as a partner in public outreach.

A letter to the U.S. Department of Justice, drafted by Lieutenant General (Ret.) William G. Boykin, Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council (FRC), calls such an association "completely unacceptable."

Signed by fourteen other conservative and Christian leaders, the letter calls SPLC "a heavily politicized organization producing inaccurate and biased data on 'hate groups' – not hate crimes.""
FBI Dumps Southern Poverty Law Center as Hate Crimes Resource

...Guy who pushed for it's removal from the FBI site was among the groups designated as hate groups so consider the source, and the clout of such groups in US politics.

And? Because the guy "pushed" for it, he got his wish? Or, did he push for it, and after an investigation, did the FBI decide he was right?

Tell me, when the American Psychiatric Association changed the classification for homosexuality from deviant to normal, who "pushed" for that change?

Should we now "consider the source" ?

Mark

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Your Dr Rubin ' s report has been debunked by every scientific and psychiatric study since and was proven to be a shoddy, based piece of shit."

And "See, we can get any results we want by skewing statistics, fabricating reasons, etc."

That is exactly what Dr. Rubin did: skew the stats to get the results he wanted.

Interestingly, he found homosexual adults mostly molest children of their own sex, and heterosexual adults mostly molest children of the opposite sex.

 

[Howey]

"Inordinate share" means greater than the population of gay men. Stats show that about 4% of Americans consider themselves gay. We can assume about half are men, so that gay men make up about 2% of the general population.

Exposed: Homosexual Child Molesters - Article - Traditional Values Coalition

For example: In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population.

Mark

Your Dr Rubin ' s report has been debunked by every scientific and psychiatric study since and was proven to be a shoddy, based piece of shit.

Ah, the world of science today. Grand, isn't it? Just about every study on everything controversial has been "debunked".

See, we can get any results we want by skewing statistics, fabricating reasons, etc.

Maybe you could show us how you can debunk a simple premise?

The premise being, was the molester a heterosexual or a homosexual?

If you can find me a link to such a rebuttal, I would like to see it.

Mark

I already found a link. It's in my OP.

You're not very smart are you?

 

[Howey]

Seriously? You're making this too easy you realize that right? You're actually on my side, but pretending to be on their side or something?

Try Googling 'Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College discredited'

The level of ignorance in this thread by the homophobes is staggering....

Alinsky would be proud of you. If you don't like the subject, "kill the messenger".

If you are here to debate, lets do so. If all you have left is name calling, I can ascertain that you have no facts to back you up.

Which is it?

Mark

Calling a homophobes a homophobes isn't name calling. It's telling the truth.

In order to justify your fear of homosexuality, you had to search google for an inane, debunked theory commissioned by a hate group to allay your fears.

 

[JakeStarkey]

80Zephyr is a devoted follower of Saul Alinsky as he uses SA's time proven tactics to demonize the opposition when unable to challenge the evidence.

 

[Sunni Man]

Faggots insisting they aren't pedophiles and thus they should be allowed to befriend and be alone with young boys.

Is like a fox telling the farmer he doesn't like the taste of chicken, so it would be safe for him to spend the night in the hen house. .....

 

[DriftingSand]

No, Paedophiles Are Not Homosexual

A homosexual pedophile IS a homosexual.

 

[DriftingSand]

Faggots insisting they aren't pedophiles and thus they should be allowed to befriend and be alone with young boys.

Is like a fox telling the farmer he doesn't like the taste of chicken, so it would be safe for him to spend the night in the hen house. .....

It does appear to be the goal of many.

Parents -- watch your kids and know who their teachers are. Just a friendly warning.

 

[Sunni Man]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

 

[shart_attack]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

It's kinda sorta tantamount to allowing a Muslim apologist to have control of the US's nuclear suitcase — and then when the country has been repeatedly raped and all its legitimate allies (especially Israel) molested by said apologist, they wonder what went wrong.

 

[Sunni Man]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

It's kinda sorta tantamount to allowing a Muslim apologist to have control of the US's nuclear suitcase — and then when the country has been repeatedly raped and all its legitimate allies especially Israel molested by said apologist, they wonder what went wrong.

Massive off topic analogy fail.......but do carry on. ....

 

[GHook93]

It took me a while to dig this out, but I finally found it. Probably the best explanation of why homophobes are so ignorant of the matter.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

Over the years, this fact has been incorporated into various systems for categorizing child molesters. For example, Finkelhor and Araji (1986) proposed that perpetrators' sexual attractions should be conceptualized as ranging along a continuum – from exclusive interest in children at one extreme, to exclusive interest in adult partners at the other end.

I hope this article succeeds in educating the uneducated of this forum.

I think this is a PC dodge. If you are a pedophile that likes young girls then you are hetro, if you like young boys then you area homo and if you like both you are a bi.

However, I think we can all agree that if you like having sex with young children, you are a sick ****, an inhuman bastard, the lowest of the low, a coward and will one day burn in hell.

 

[DriftingSand]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

One of the reasons there seems to be a rise in the homo population is for that very reason -- parents allowing their innocent, impressionable kids around the homo lurkers.

 

[Ravi]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

I feels sorry for conservative twits that let their young children be alone with "straight" males and then wonder why the kid got raped.

 

[Sunni Man]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

I feels sorry for conservative twits that let their young children be alone with "straight" males and then wonder why the kid got raped.

Although parents shouldn't allow their children to be alone with other adults.

Simple logic will tell you that it's far more safer for children to be around straight males than homos. ....

 

[GHook93]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

I feels sorry for conservative twits that let their young children be alone with "straight" males and then wonder why the kid got raped.

Why does it have to be children of conservative kids. I feel sorry for any kid that gets raped? Actually I feel for nearly any person that get raped (I make exception for some evil people in jail ).

They are horrific crimes! Ravi being bipartisan isn't such a bad thing you should try it once in a while!

 

[Ravi]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

I feels sorry for conservative twits that let their young children be alone with "straight" males and then wonder why the kid got raped.

Why does it have to be children of conservative kids. I feel sorry for any kid that gets raped? Actually I feel for nearly any person that get raped (I make exception for some evil people in jail ).

They are horrific crimes! Ravi being bipartisan isn't such a bad thing you should try it once in a while!

Tell it to Sunni.

Fact of the matter is I know two straight men who sexually abused both male and female underaged children. In both cases I, and many others, were absolutely floored that they did so as there was no indication of what shits they were.

Point being, don't leave your kids alone with anyone until they can defend themselves.

 

[R.D.]

I feel sorry for the children of liberal parents who allow their kids to be around homos because it's the PC thing to do.

And then when the young child is molested by a ****** they stupidly trusted to be alone with their young boy..

The parents can't seem to figure out what went wrong? .....

I feels sorry for conservative twits that let their young children be alone with "straight" males and then wonder why the kid got raped.

Yeah, I know, right.

Because when its liberal parents whose kids get it its an expression of love