No Joke, Trump Just Said the Federal Government is Going to Talk to Hollywood...

[Lewdog]

While leaving the White House just now Trump stopped to answer some questions, and when asked about the violence in movies contributing to gun violence, he said that Republicans are treated badly in Hollywood and the movies and the federal government is going to talk to them about that.



So Trump doesn't like Hollywood being able to express their rights to freedom of speech?...

What in the hell is wrong with this man?

Tell us how much you love that "satirical" movie about the elites hunting people from the heartland.

Imagine conservatives making a movie--a "satirical" movie, you understand--about hunting:

1. Gays

2. Blacks

3. Immigrants

It would start a war, for real. And you know it would. But let's face it. We are society's throw away people now.

Strawman. I've never seen it, and it doesn't really sound all that great to me, it is an over-used movie trope. There has been movies like you just said with all kinds of people. Do you REALLY think out of the thousands of movies that are made every single year that there isn't movies out there about the things you just said? Pretty naive of you.

 

[BS Filter]

The rest of the world watches Hollywood violence, and plays Call of Duty, and we don't go around killing one another in mass shootings.

This is just more right wing attempts to deflect the roll that easy access to guns is the one area where the rest of the first world differs from the USA. The rest of the world doesn\t have a white supremacist leader spouting racist hate every day either.

If the key problem here concerning mass shootings is a "white supremacist leader spouting racist hate", how you explain all the mass shootings that occurred every year of Obamas stint in the white house?

Exactly. These propaganda parrots want us to believe these mass shootings never happened before Trump. They're as sick as the shooters.

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

You admit Betts is a nutcase. Every mass shooter is a nutcase.

 

[Lewdog]

While leaving the White House just now Trump stopped to answer some questions, and when asked about the violence in movies contributing to gun violence, he said that Republicans are treated badly in Hollywood and the movies and the federal government is going to talk to them about that.



So Trump doesn't like Hollywood being able to express their rights to freedom of speech?...

What in the hell is wrong with this man?

What's the problem? I'm sure the governments of other countries talk the their movie industries... China for instance... is there any doubt they talk to their movie producers? Hell, I'm fairly well convinced they talk to Hollywood as well...

Japanese and Taiwanese flags removed from jacket in new Top Gun trailer

Do you know why those flags were removed from his jacket? It's not because the governments didn't like them. Let's see if you can figure the real reason out. Try making another guess.

 

[OldLady]

If the key problem here concerning mass shootings is a "white supremacist leader spouting racist hate", how you explain all the mass shootings that occurred every year of Obamas stint in the white house?

Exactly. These propaganda parrots want us to believe these mass shootings never happened before Trump. They're as sick as the shooters.

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

You admit Betts is a nutcase. Every mass shooter is a nutcase.

Well, if you define "nutcase" as anyone who does things outside the norm, I suppose all mass shooters are. Crusius had a clearly stated political motivation for killing all those people and I'm glad he survived because I hope he's sweating it right now, thinking about his death by lethal injection or whatever they use.

 

[Lewdog]

Exactly. These propaganda parrots want us to believe these mass shootings never happened before Trump. They're as sick as the shooters.

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

You admit Betts is a nutcase. Every mass shooter is a nutcase.

Well, if you define "nutcase" as anyone who does things outside the norm, I suppose all mass shooters are. Crusius had a clearly stated political motivation for killing all those people and I'm glad he survived because I hope he's sweating it right now, thinking about his death by lethal injection or whatever they use.

Exactly, there are BILLIONS of people on this planet, and a lot of the people that do bad things because they saw it somewhere in a media source, they would have done something crazy any way because they have some kind of mental illness.

We have people that eat dirt... that get turned on wearing diapers and being treated like a baby... who enjoy being hung up with hooks through their skin.

BUT the people who can distinguish the difference between fiction and reality, can be brainwashed to believe that a certain group of people are the enemy, and those people will do whatever it takes to please the person that brought that enlightenment. It's why you can sometimes read a story and see people like doctors, lawyers, scientist, and other reputable professions that require a high amount of intelligence join groups you would think they are too smart to be apart of. Just look at Jonestown, that's a great example of people that sold all their possessions, moved to a community in the middle of nowhere, and eventually killed theirselves all for Jim Jones and the messages he was feeding them.

 

[BS Filter]

Exactly. These propaganda parrots want us to believe these mass shootings never happened before Trump. They're as sick as the shooters.

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

You admit Betts is a nutcase. Every mass shooter is a nutcase.

Well, if you define "nutcase" as anyone who does things outside the norm, I suppose all mass shooters are. Crusius had a clearly stated political motivation for killing all those people and I'm glad he survived because I hope he's sweating it right now, thinking about his death by lethal injection or whatever they use.

Doesn't matter if it was political. It was not an excuse to kill innocent people. You're trying to paint his crime as something a person with a political agenda would do. There are millions of people that are against illegal immigration and they aren't going to kill anyone because of it. He's a nut just like the guy in Dayton was a nut.

 

[OldLady]

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

You admit Betts is a nutcase. Every mass shooter is a nutcase.

Well, if you define "nutcase" as anyone who does things outside the norm, I suppose all mass shooters are. Crusius had a clearly stated political motivation for killing all those people and I'm glad he survived because I hope he's sweating it right now, thinking about his death by lethal injection or whatever they use.

Doesn't matter if it was political. It was not an excuse to kill innocent people. You're trying to paint his crime as something a person with a political agenda would do. There are millions of people that are against illegal immigration and they aren't going to kill anyone because of it. He's a nut just like the guy in Dayton was a nut.

The reason it matters that it was political is that we can fry his ass for it. It's called terrorism. It's clear not only from his "manifesto," but also from the defense his attorney is using--that it was Trump who inspired him. So the guy isn't denying that he had a political motivation. And I don't see him as mentally ill. I see him as warped, yes, but mostly just a flaming asshole.

 

[BS Filter]

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

You admit Betts is a nutcase. Every mass shooter is a nutcase.

Well, if you define "nutcase" as anyone who does things outside the norm, I suppose all mass shooters are. Crusius had a clearly stated political motivation for killing all those people and I'm glad he survived because I hope he's sweating it right now, thinking about his death by lethal injection or whatever they use.

Doesn't matter if it was political. It was not an excuse to kill innocent people. You're trying to paint his crime as something a person with a political agenda would do. There are millions of people that are against illegal immigration and they aren't going to kill anyone because of it. He's a nut just like the guy in Dayton was a nut.

The reason it matters that it was political is that we can fry his ass for it. It's called terrorism. It's clear not only from his "manifesto," but also from the defense his attorney is using--that it was Trump who inspired him. So the guy isn't denying that he had a political motivation. And I don't see him as mentally ill. I see him as warped, yes, but mostly just a flaming asshole.

Then apply the same standard for the Dayton shooter. You admit he is a Democrat, and that's political.

 

[OldLady]

Sorry, I've gotten off track.
Propaganda in Hollywood. Let's bring it forward from Casablanca. Obama would have been one to use Hollywood; they loved him. What movies preached his sermon? I'm not sure because I barely watch new movies, haven't for years.

 

[flacaltenn]

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

I just can't wait to see how many nutcases that movie "The Hunt" inspires.

Different argument.

No, it's not at all a different argument. You are saying that words people hear can inspire them to murder. Right? So how much more can words AND VISUALS in the form of movies do the same?

Once you start that ball rolling, you won't like the direction in which it rolls. Not especially with all the loose lips on YOUR side.

This is why every time I see the general wisdom quoted that video gaming has NO effect on perpetration of violence - i just cringe. It's a related argument about movie violence.

When you quote statistics from the GENERAL population, and it's a big impressive number about how many CONSUME violent media and DON'T commit crimes -- that's a farce.. You don't study the general population to FIND THAT EFFECT.. You study the fraction of the population that COMMITS those crimes..

Because SERIOUS mental defects are not that prevalent, studying the general population is almost useless.. This is a mental health issue. And you need to be studying those who are SUSCEPTIBLE to suggestions of or conditioning to violence.. THEN you find out whether movies, video games or play-action orr whatever is a CONTRIBUTING FACTOR to these crimes...

 

[playtime]

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

defense lawyers are now using the ' trump defense ' as a reason for the violence.
crusius' lawyer just did - saying his client was acting upon the words of his president.

Bad move, Playtime. Lawyers come up with whatever they can think of to wiggle their client out of a conviction. Abusive mother, temporary insanity, whatever. No one should be getting behind what a defense lawyer pulls out of his hat.

absolutely. but it's yet to be seen whether it will now be used as a valid defense. how awful it will be if it is - it will only open up the floodgates.

The finger pointing is going too far. Trump has a piss poor attitude toward immigrants and immigration generally and it is one of the five top reasons I wish he hadn't won. BUT it is going too far to say this guy was inspired by Trump as if that were the reason he killed all those people. Crusius was steeped in some of the ugliest rhetoric out there, according to people who know the books he was reading.
Trump sets a negative tone and I disagree with that. That's as far as I'll go.

the dude from montana is also using the trump defense. unfreakinbelievable.

 

[flacaltenn]

Or a Hard Days' Night

Why is this seriously so difficult? It's about the joy of returning home to someone that cares about you after taking abuse from everyone working as a customer service rep...

 

[BS Filter]

Or a Hard Days' Night

Why is this seriously so difficult? It's about the joy of returning home to someone that cares about you after taking abuse from everyone working as a customer service rep...

Equating Beatles songs with gangsta rap is desperately ignorant.

 

[Dragonlady]

Nothing unconstitutional about morals and being a good example to young people, idiot.

you are correct, there is nothing unconstitutional about morals and being a good example to young people. you are free to do that. Other people are free to express themselves as they see fit. You see, the constitution is an amoral document...it does not care about your morals or mine or the rappers...it treats them all the same.

I love Elvis and the Beatles. They never sang about bitches, ho's, killing cops, and using the N word. Stupid jerk.

I do to, but people talked about them the same way you talk about gangster rap. The Beatles had songs about sex and drugs...how immoral of you to like their music.

They also had dongs about revolution, and Bible trumpets burned their records because John Lennon said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus.

And you're equating that with gangsta rap? You're insane.

Well for starters, how many people do you know who say they were inspired to commit murder by gansta rap?

Have you ever listened to gansta rap? I haven't, and very few people I know listen to it. My son was into it as a teenager, but it wasn't on the radio because of language, so at most, it was a fringe choice.

You can't compare the megaphone of popular music to the bully pulpit of the President of the United States.

 

[BS Filter]

Nothing unconstitutional about morals and being a good example to young people, idiot.

you are correct, there is nothing unconstitutional about morals and being a good example to young people. you are free to do that. Other people are free to express themselves as they see fit. You see, the constitution is an amoral document...it does not care about your morals or mine or the rappers...it treats them all the same.

I love Elvis and the Beatles. They never sang about bitches, ho's, killing cops, and using the N word. Stupid jerk.

I do to, but people talked about them the same way you talk about gangster rap. The Beatles had songs about sex and drugs...how immoral of you to like their music.

They also had dongs about revolution, and Bible trumpets burned their records because John Lennon said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus.

And you're equating that with gangsta rap? You're insane.

Well for starters, how many people do you know who say they were inspired to commit murder by gansta rap?

Have you ever listened to gansta rap? I haven't, and very few people I know listen to it. My son was into it as a teenager, but it wasn't on the radio because of language, so at most, it was a fringe choice.

You can't compare the megaphone of popular music to the bully pulpit of the President of the United States.

Yes, I've heard gangsta rap, and you admit you haven't. Case closed.

 

[Dragonlady]

Nothing unconstitutional about morals and being a good example to young people, idiot.

you are correct, there is nothing unconstitutional about morals and being a good example to young people. you are free to do that. Other people are free to express themselves as they see fit. You see, the constitution is an amoral document...it does not care about your morals or mine or the rappers...it treats them all the same.

I love Elvis and the Beatles. They never sang about bitches, ho's, killing cops, and using the N word. Stupid jerk.

I do to, but people talked about them the same way you talk about gangster rap. The Beatles had songs about sex and drugs...how immoral of you to like their music.

They also had dongs about revolution, and Bible trumpets burned their records because John Lennon said the Beatles were more popular than Jesus.

Perhaps if we did not live off of hundreds of thousands of foreign sweat shop slaves you would be more believable.

I don't live off foreign sweat shop slaves. I buy Canadian made goods where ever and when ever possible. I make my own clothing, and have a small online business making clothing for children. This allows me to take tax write-offs on my rent, utilities, WIFI, phone and travel to sporting events.

This morning I went to the local farmers market for local produce, and meat.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump speaks. Hollywood listens. The studio has scrapped The Hunt.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump speaks. Hollywood listens. The studio has scrapped The Hunt.

It will be back by next year when all the gnashing of teeth over the latest shootings wears off.

 

[22lcidw]

Can't wait for the Epstein film with Bill and Hill!

 

[Rambunctious]

The rest of the world watches Hollywood violence, and plays Call of Duty, and we don't go around killing one another in mass shootings.

This is just more right wing attempts to deflect the roll that easy access to guns is the one area where the rest of the first world differs from the USA. The rest of the world doesn\t have a white supremacist leader spouting racist hate every day either.

If the key problem here concerning mass shootings is a "white supremacist leader spouting racist hate", how you explain all the mass shootings that occurred every year of Obamas stint in the white house?

Exactly. These propaganda parrots want us to believe these mass shootings never happened before Trump. They're as sick as the shooters.

I don't recall a single mass shooter citing President Obama as an inspiration, or quoting President Obama's words in their manifesto. Many of the mass shootings which occurred under Obama were in fact, mentally ill individuals - like the Sandy Hook shooter, and the Aurora movie theater shooting, or disgruntled employees. Only since Trump was elected and emboldened white supremacists and racists with his inflammatory rhetoric have we seen mass killers quoting the President or citing him as an inspiration.

I agree that that the number of white male rampage killings increased under Obama, but the whole racist temperature of the nation started rising considerably, when Trump started his whole birther campaign, claiming that Obama was an illegitmate President. To what extent the levels of escalating white nationalist rhetoric starting escalating in public discourse around the same time, it's hard to tell.

Nice try at "but Obama", but Trump started his Birther Campaign in 2011. Republicans said it was because Obama was "weak". If that's the case, why has it gotten worse under "strongman" Trump?

Show me the quotes. If Trump is responsible for El Paso, Democrats are responsible for Dayton.

Democrats are responsible for Dayton HOW? In what way does the people he shot tie into far left wing nihilist ideology? See, Crusius hated Hispanics for "taking over" the country and he drove many many miles to go to a place where all those Hispanics were, and he shot as many of them as he could.
So far, it sounds as if Betts was a nutcase. No argument that he was a Democrat, but it doesn't seem to have fueled his actions, unless more has come up that I am not aware of.

The shooter is responsible...not dems and not Trump and not the gun...the person shooting the gun is responsible...