Jake Tapper (CNN) just said that the super-secret crime that turns the bookkeeping misdemeanor into a felony is:

[JohnDB]

 

[Lesh]

Only difference is Menendez is guilty if crimes, Simp.

But I thought NY was supposed to be such a staunch Dem stronghold that guilt or innocence doesn’t matter…

 

[Nostra]

But I thought NY was supposed to be such a staunch Dem stronghold that guilt or innocence doesn’t matter…

The court Trump is in is. Denying that just makes you look dumber than normal, which is damn near impossible.

 

[Independent thinker]

Mods: Just saw this on TV, so there may not be a link yet.

Jake was talking to two judges and said that the crime that turns the bookkeeping misdemeanor into a felony is "hiding information from voters".

That makes no sense to me. I thought that "Non-Disclosure Agreements" were always perfectly legal.

Is there an exception for Federal election candidates?

Can states enforce Federal election laws? Or, is NY misinterpreting Federal election law?

The Trump Trial in Manhattan is an Indictment of the New York Legal System

Below is my column in the New York Post on the start of the Trump trial today in New York. I have long been critical of the case as a clear example of the weaponization of the criminal justice syst…

jonathanturley.org

"So this is the case: A serial perjurer used to convert a dead state misdemeanor into a felony based on an alleged federal election crime that was rejected by the Justice Department.

But Bragg then used the alleged federal crime to bootstrap a defunct misdemeanor charge into a felony in the current case. He is arguing that Trump intentionally lied when his former lawyer Michael Cohen listed the payments as retainer costs rather than a payment — to avoid reporting it as a campaign contribution to himself."

Is the $130,000 paid to Stormy a campaign contribution from Trump to Trump's campaign?

So Jake Tapper's interpretation may be wrong? Bragg should have specifically listed the "secret crime" that turned the misdemeanor into a felony on the Bill of Particulars, but he didn't.
Was the secret crime:
Hiding info from voters?
Or not reporting a $130,000 campaign contribution (to Stormy) from himself to himself?

This is what the whole case is actually about - attempting to influence the 2016 election by covering up a bad story to further your chances. Must be the first time that has ever happened.

 

[marvin martian]

You can claim anything you want “counselor” but the legal system sees it differently.

And for the record

A. What Trump did is at the very least a misdemeanor. Misdemeanors are CRIMES my friend. Often resulting in jail time for “regular” folks

B. What Trump did was done to hide the CRIMES that Cohen was convicted of.

That all by itself turns that misdemeanor into a felony.

The “underlying crime” need not be committed by the person charged. If it was committed to cover someone else’s crime… it becomes a felony

You up to speed now junior?

LOL

The Trump Trial Farce Will Only Make Him Stronger

townhall.com

 

[Lesh]

The court Trump is in is. Denying that just makes you look dumber than normal, which is damn near impossible.

So only some courts in NY are unfair to Republicans?

That makes sense… sure dimbulb

 

[Nostra]

So only some courts in NY are unfair to Republicans?

That makes sense… sure dimbulb

Holy shit you are stupid. Far left judge, DA who ran on getting Trump, jury pool that voted for your Pedo Messiah 85%

If you ever grew a brain you would pull it out and play with it like it was Play-Doh.

 

[22lcidw]

So only some courts in NY are unfair to Republicans?

That makes sense… sure dimbulb

Progs are turning a man who was not well liked due to his abrasive personality into a martyr. That same personality is what Progs are. He was President. And he was not a dictator. He questioned what a lot of people question. And that needs to be squashed from elites. Joe and D.C. are relics and are the same as the British of what we had a revolutionary war for. We are stagnant with the smell of mold. Trust no one unless they prove otherwise.

 

[AntonToo]

This is what the whole case is actually about - attempting to influence the 2016 election by covering up a bad story to further your chances. Must be the first time that has ever happened.

Not simply influence the election, but ILLICITLY influence the election.

Not simply by covering up, but by REPEATEDLY COMMITING FINANCIAL RECORDS FRAUD in furtherance of the coverup.

 

[Nostra]

Not simply influence the election, but ILLICITLY influence the election.

Not simply by covering up, but by REPEATEDLY COMMITING FINANCIAL RECORDS FRAUD in furtherance of the coverup.

Link?

 

[Dragonlady]

Mods: Just saw this on TV, so there may not be a link yet.

Jake was talking to two judges and said that the crime that turns the bookkeeping misdemeanor into a felony is "hiding information from voters".

That makes no sense to me. I thought that "Non-Disclosure Agreements" were always perfectly legal.

Is there an exception for Federal election candidates?

Can states enforce Federal election laws? Or, is NY misinterpreting Federal election law?

The Trump Trial in Manhattan is an Indictment of the New York Legal System

Below is my column in the New York Post on the start of the Trump trial today in New York. I have long been critical of the case as a clear example of the weaponization of the criminal justice syst…

jonathanturley.org

"So this is the case: A serial perjurer used to convert a dead state misdemeanor into a felony based on an alleged federal election crime that was rejected by the Justice Department.

But Bragg then used the alleged federal crime to bootstrap a defunct misdemeanor charge into a felony in the current case. He is arguing that Trump intentionally lied when his former lawyer Michael Cohen listed the payments as retainer costs rather than a payment — to avoid reporting it as a campaign contribution to himself."

Is the $130,000 paid to Stormy a campaign contribution from Trump to Trump's campaign?

So Jake Tapper's interpretation may be wrong? Bragg should have specifically listed the "secret crime" that turned the misdemeanor into a felony on the Bill of Particulars, but he didn't.
Was the secret crime:
Hiding info from voters?
Or not reporting a $130,000 campaign contribution (to Stormy) from himself to himself?

Have you forgotten the $150,000 to Karen McDougall, or the $30,000 to the doorman? That's an illegal, unreported campaign contribution by David Pecker. Which Trump was clearly aware of from the testimony. The payment to SD after Pecker refused to bankroll any more of these stories, on the advice of his attorney.

The crime isn't signing an NDA, it's the conspiracy to cover up Trump's behaviour with women, after the Access Hollywood tapes by buying off the women with real stories of his indiscriminate behaviour to tell, denying (lying) the relationships happened, "They're just out to smear my reputation, none of this ever happened, and look over there - Hillary has Parkinsons". In other words "fraud".

Then there's the time line: Trump, Pecker, and Cohen entered into this conspiracy when Trump came down the escalator. If Trump didn't have sex, or try to assault any of the women who came forward to confirm the Access Hollywood Tape, or the women who claimed to have had sex with him, why was it necessary to set up a "catch and kill" plan BEFORE there had been any such allegations?

And why was Trump, who had been procrastinating about paying Daniels, suddenly wanting it done yesterday, after the AH tape became public?

The charges are for falsifying records and tax evasion. Trump wasn't previously charged on the federal campaign law violations, which took place in 2015/16 because Barr kiboshed the investigation and shut it down, and the statute of limitations had past, but the coverup continued on until 2017. Tax evasion has no statute of limitations under New York law.

 

[Dragonlady]

Link?

The links are up thread Nostra Dumbass. You sure do ask for a whole bunch of links that have already been posted - multiple times. Don't you ever read anything, or are you suffering from short term memory loss.

You must get paid by the number of posts.

Watching the Trumpettes arriving at court yesterday and today, with apologies to ZZ Top: Sung to the tune of Sharp Dressed Man:

Blue suit, red tie
Hot mic they use for telling those lies
Witch hunt, law fare
None of it is true but then they don’t care
They’re all as loyal as they can be
Cause every MAGA wants to be Trump’s VP

 

[Dragonlady]

Only difference is Menendez is guilty if crimes, Simp.

Not nearly as many as Trump, but yes, both are guilty of selling out the American people for money and power.

The difference being that Trump pardoned all of the guys like Menendez on his way out of office. Biden is prosecuting them.

 

[Nostra]

Have you forgotten the $150,000 to Karen McDougall, or the $30,000 to the doorman? That's an illegal, unreported campaign contribution by David Pecker. Which Trump was clearly aware of from the testimony. The payment to SD after Pecker refused to bankroll any more of these stories, on the advice of his attorney.

The crime isn't signing an NDA, it's the conspiracy to cover up Trump's behaviour with women, after the Access Hollywood tapes by buying off the women with real stories of his indiscriminate behaviour to tell, denying (lying) the relationships happened, "They're just out to smear my reputation, none of this ever happened, and look over there - Hillary has Parkinsons". In other words "fraud".

Then there's the time line: Trump, Pecker, and Cohen entered into this conspiracy when Trump came down the escalator. If Trump didn't have sex, or try to assault any of the women who came forward to confirm the Access Hollywood Tape, or the women who claimed to have had sex with him, why was it necessary to set up a "catch and kill" plan BEFORE there had been any such allegations?

And why was Trump, who had been procrastinating about paying Daniels, suddenly wanting it done yesterday, after the AH tape became public?

The charges are for falsifying records and tax evasion. Trump wasn't previously charged on the federal campaign law violations, which took place in 2015/16 because Barr kiboshed the investigation and shut it down, and the statute of limitations had past, but the coverup continued on until 2017. Tax evasion has no statute of limitations under New York law.

The US FEC says you are a lying sack of KKKanadian vermin shit. Barr doesn't have anything to do with the FEC, Dumbass.

And in the USA NDAs are not illegal no matter what you are doing them for, Simp.
And no, there are no charges for tax evasion, moron.


Go fix your shithole KKKountry.

 

[Nostra]

Not nearly as many as Trump, but yes, both are guilty of selling out the American people for money and power.

The difference being that Trump pardoned all of the guys like Menendez on his way out of office. Biden is prosecuting them.

You are more full of shit than a dairy barn.

 

[Batcat]

(COUGH) like Hunter's laptop? The 20 shell companies, millions from foreign adversaries fanned out across the Biden family, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

The Rule of Law only applies to Republicans. High level Democrats are totally above the rule of law in our wonderful Banana Republic.

 

[Nostra]

The links are up thread Nostra Dumbass.

No, they aren't. You are a liar.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

On that criteria, we should just move DC to gitmo then.

 

[AntonToo]

On that criteria, we should just move DC to gitmo then.

If you know anyone in DC who is comming financial fraud to conduct illicit electioneering please contact authorities right away.

Otherwise stop posting bs.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If you know anyone in DC who is comming financial fraud to conduct illicit electioneering please contact authorities right away.

Otherwise stop posting bs.

Just posting truth since no one up there follows the constitution. The most corrupt govt that money can buy and we got it.