No covid vaccine for ME.

[zaangalewa]

NOT SO FAST. One article does not a religion make. For instance, the Jehovah Witnesses do not allow medical transfusions.

It's suicide not to make a blood transfusion in some cases where it is inevitable to do so. Do they allow suicide? I thought they changed their opinions about blood transfusions.

One could argue that injecting foreign blood and foreign substances could overlap in many areas. Further, the Child Abuse Prevention Treatment Act of 1996 legislates that there was no federal requirement that a child must be provided “medical service or treatment against the religious beliefs of the parent or legal guardian."

What's nonsense. Parents who prefer to let their child die on reason of brainwash are not able to take serios the guardianship for a child. It needs in this case an independent legal guardian who takes care instead of the own parents for the life of their children.

It says nothing about those religious beliefs having to be organized.

Blood Transfusions and Medical Care against Religious Beliefs

First Amendment free exercise of religion is in question when medical care is refused due to religious beliefs. Courts must balance religious rights and child welfare.

mtsu.edu

These issues stem from a transfusion of blood, but we know that these vaccines are made in part from the bodies of fetuses which contained blood.

What's nonsense.

Then there is also the Church of Christ.

Two large Christian groups that reject medical treatment in favor of prayer

Prayer instead of medical treatment: Christian Science and Jehovah's Witnesses

www.religioustolerance.org

Then there are the Mormons and Islam:

Other Christian groups that reject blood transfusions & medical treatment

Learn all about how other denominations that are also against blood transfusions and medical treatment, in some cases

www.pulse.ng

Let's not also not forget the Amish, Seven-Day Adventists, Hindus, Sikhs, and Christian Scientists:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/health/religion-medical-treatment/index.html#:~:text=Vaishnavism%2C%20the%20major%20branch%20of%20the%20Hindu%20faith%2C,disapprove%20of%20any%20animal-based%20products%20for%20medical%20use.

Indeed, all of the following churches and movements have religious beliefs against some, most forms or all forms of medical care.

• Followers of Christ
• Faith Assembly
• Church of the Firstborn
• Christian Science
• Faith Tabernacle
• End Time Ministries
• The Believers’ Fellowship
• Jehovah’s Witnesses
• Church of God of the Union Assembly
• Church of God (certain congregations)
• First Century Gospel Church
• Full Gospel Deliverance Church
• Faith Temple Doctoral Church of Christ in God
• Jesus through Jon and Judy
• Christ Miracle Healing Center
• Northeast Kingdom Community Church
• Christ Assembly
• The Source
• “No Name” Fellowship
• The Body
• 1 Mind Ministries
• Twelve Tribes
• Born in Zion Ministry

Churches with religious beliefs against medical care -

The churches and movements listed below have religious beliefs against some or most forms of medical care. For articles on specific cases and issues involving many of these, see the By denomination page. Followers of Christ Faith Assembly Church of … Continue reading →

childrenshealthcare.org

Do you like to say all parents of all this organisations are able to be a deadly threat for the survival of their own children by ignoring standard medical methods where no doubt exists that this methods help to save their life?

So don't try to blow your bullshit past us. That doesn't even preclude the existence of PERSONAL religions. Too bad the state only recognizes ORGANIZED religions. It is possible to have personal religious beliefs-- -- call them beliefs or faiths, but one cannot preclude their existence nor validity just because of the number of people attached to them.

And that doesn't even touch upon the fact that the state has no legal right to force a person to undergo a medical procedure against their wishes. Nor can any doctor make a summary conclusion that any given medical procedure is safe for everyone irregardless of personal circumstances! If they can force you to get a vaccine for something you don't want and might not even need, then they can force a woman not to have an abortion.

You can't have it both ways.

The freedom of religion is a high value - but the human right to live and the physical integrity - specially of children - are also high values. As well as no one has any right to hurt the physical integrity of a child also no one has any right to take the life of a child in a form of "murder by omission".

 

[zaangalewa]

Hossfly

The joke is by the way that the VW beetle was made a long time after the Nazis had been eliminated and they had been woven to doormats which VW gave for free in pairs when someone bought a beetle.

 

[OldFlame]

Mother of 2 dies from blood clots after getting COVID-19 vaccine

 

[OldFlame]

July 2020, 15 months ago, 6 months before the vaccine trials were completed and emergency use was approved by the FDA, Harris and Biden said they would not take the vaccine just because Trump was pushing it, all before FDA approval, BUT THAT THEY WOULD get vaccinated when the scientists and FDA gave approval.

That makes no logical sense. Are you saying that 'just because 'Trump pushed it', it would have been distributed to millions of people, without FDA or scientific approval?

I'm contending that would have never happened, it would have only ever been distributed with FDA approval from the beginning, so how do you put their words into context knowing that fact? Are they just stupid for saying something so ridiculously false?

 

[OldFlame]

Right,

Except Trump, he was pushing the vaccines, before even the first trial was completed by vaccine makers... That's what Biden and Harris objected to.

Trump was pressuring vaccine makers and the FDA to approve, vaccines BEFORE his election, regardless of not having the results of the trials.

They objected to him 'pushing the vaccines', what exactly does that mean? Are you insinuating he was going to distribute without FDA approval?

 

[eddiew37]

Hospital refuses life saving transplant for women who because of LOL religious reasons won't get a vaccination Go home you moron republican and die like a dog

 

[toobfreak]

What's nonsense.

Hey, I don't CREATE the religion, buddy, I merely REPORT it.

 

[skye]

 

[AntonToo]

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Yep, bottoms up ignorant nutbags.

 

[Hossfly]

Yep, bottoms up ignorant nutbags.

Go ahead and get your aborted fetus shot. It'll do ye good.

 

[AntonToo]

Go ahead and get your aborted fetus shot. It'll do ye good.

Good job fully supporting my thesis Mr.Crazybags

 

[zaangalewa]

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The human DNA is full of "dirty" DNA from fights with virusses during evolution. Nothing fights better for an intact DNA than mRNA vaccines.

 

[zaangalewa]

Hey, I don't CREATE the religion, buddy, I merely REPORT it.

Nevertheless the "argument" is wrong and it is also wrong to say this argument has something to do with religion. This is also not an "argument" against this "argument". Or with other words: nonsense makes nonsense not to a better nonsense.