No Climate Change, Huh?

[Wyatt earp]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

What a total boondoggle.
Oh look, the ancient port of Caesarea built over 2,000 years ago! Where those people are standing is the dock the boats would come to.
View attachment 504349

Naturally occurring climate variation is one thing, rapid AGW caused by us is another.

How much does man contribute:

5%?

10%

50%

75%

100%

???

However, the science on the human contribution to modern warming is quite clear. Humans emissions and activities have caused around 100% of the warming observed since 1950, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) fifth assessment report.

Liar

Analysis: Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due to humans | Carbon Brief

You can take it up with real scientists.

Lmfao so how did they measure it and I noticed the link in the article to the IPCC doesn't work

 

[22lcidw]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

Miami like other areas and cities built much of its infrastructure nut to butt to the ocean. New Orleans is actually below sea level. We build on barrier islands and keep building. We love the beaches. Those islands are to protect the mainland. The science a half century ago when this became more mainstream promoted that the beaches would be gone by now in many places. Oil and natural gas would be depleted and we would have a decade or so more of fuel before it vanished. The architects of fear are always around. And we humans are gullible as they make obscene amounts of money on their taxation and extra charges for products and services. Also the continents do drift a bit also. Moving beaches back a half a block would be more successful even with the massive amount of property built closer to the beach then the global warming scam.

 

[otto105]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

Miami like other areas and cities built much of its infrastructure nut to butt to the ocean. New Orleans is actually below sea level. We build on barrier islands and keep building. We love the beaches. Those islands are to protect the mainland. The science a half century ago when this became more mainstream promoted that the beaches would be gone by now in many places. Oil and natural gas would be depleted and we would have a decade or so more of fuel before it vanished. The architects of fear are always around. And we humans are gullible as they make obscene amounts of money on their taxation and extra charges for products and services. Also the continents do drift a bit also. Moving beaches back a half a block would be more successful even with the massive amount of property built closer to the beach then the global warming scam.

Yeah, in regard to your New Orleans.

New Orleans Is Slowly Drowning. When Do I Leave?


https://nola.gov/nola/media/Climate-Action/Climate-Action-for-a-Resilient-New-Orleans.pdf

 

[airplanemechanic]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

What a total boondoggle.
Oh look, the ancient port of Caesarea built over 2,000 years ago! Where those people are standing is the dock the boats would come to.
View attachment 504349

Naturally occurring climate variation is one thing, rapid AGW caused by us is another.

How much does man contribute:

5%?

10%

50%

75%

100%

???

However, the science on the human contribution to modern warming is quite clear. Humans emissions and activities have caused around 100% of the warming observed since 1950, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) fifth assessment report.

Liar

Analysis: Why scientists think 100% of global warming is due to humans | Carbon Brief

You can take it up with real scientists.

They're real morons paid for by progressives.

Zeke Hausfather

Zeke Hausfather is a climate scientist and energy systems analyst whose research focuses on observational temperature records, climate models, and mitigation technologies. He spent 10 years working as a data scientist and entrepreneur in the cleantech sector, where he was the lead data scientist at…

thebreakthrough.org

Dude works for the breakthrough institute.

Talk:Breakthrough Institute - SourceWatch

www.sourcewatch.org

The Breakthrough Institute (TBI), which describes itself as a "a project of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors", is a think tank established by Michael Shellenberger and Ted Nordhaus. On its website it states that it is "committed to creating a new progressive politics policy, philosophy, and the social sciences

Oh so it's just a liberal think tank pushing progressive politics. Scientists with a known political agenda carry no weight.

Try again.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

Miami like other areas and cities built much of its infrastructure nut to butt to the ocean. New Orleans is actually below sea level. We build on barrier islands and keep building. We love the beaches. Those islands are to protect the mainland. The science a half century ago when this became more mainstream promoted that the beaches would be gone by now in many places. Oil and natural gas would be depleted and we would have a decade or so more of fuel before it vanished. The architects of fear are always around. And we humans are gullible as they make obscene amounts of money on their taxation and extra charges for products and services. Also the continents do drift a bit also. Moving beaches back a half a block would be more successful even with the massive amount of property built closer to the beach then the global warming scam.

Yeah, in regard to your New Orleans.

New Orleans Is Slowly Drowning. When Do I Leave?


https://nola.gov/nola/media/Climate-Action/Climate-Action-for-a-Resilient-New-Orleans.pdf

Why do you Leftards hate science so much?

 

[Dusty]

You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.

No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.

At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.

Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!

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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time​

View attachment 502683

Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.

The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.

While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.

"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.

The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.

"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.

The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.

A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN

Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

www.cnn.com

The climate has been warming for exactly 20000 years or since the ebb of the last ice age. Humanity is not the cause. Humans are the cause of building damaging dams in the middle of deserts as your picture shows.

 

[toobfreak]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

Miami like other areas and cities built much of its infrastructure nut to butt to the ocean. New Orleans is actually below sea level. We build on barrier islands and keep building. We love the beaches. Those islands are to protect the mainland. The science a half century ago when this became more mainstream promoted that the beaches would be gone by now in many places. Oil and natural gas would be depleted and we would have a decade or so more of fuel before it vanished. The architects of fear are always around. And we humans are gullible as they make obscene amounts of money on their taxation and extra charges for products and services. Also the continents do drift a bit also. Moving beaches back a half a block would be more successful even with the massive amount of property built closer to the beach then the global warming scam.

Yeah, in regard to your New Orleans.
New Orleans Is Slowly Drowning. When Do I Leave?
https://nola.gov/nola/media/Climate-Action/Climate-Action-for-a-Resilient-New-Orleans.pdf

Why do you Leftards hate science so much?

Well, WM, you have to know that these Leftards don't know what science really is. They've been steeped all their life in the illusory, progressive balm of takers and victims, whereby the successful for themself (a capitalist) is taking his unfair rewards for his hard work from the lowly masses of victims whom just weren't dealt the hand they wanted in life, and so, must spend the rest of their wearisome lives getting even, instead of succeeding. So, they use science as their tool of engineering the desired outcome rather than getting at the true facts.

 

[otto105]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

Miami like other areas and cities built much of its infrastructure nut to butt to the ocean. New Orleans is actually below sea level. We build on barrier islands and keep building. We love the beaches. Those islands are to protect the mainland. The science a half century ago when this became more mainstream promoted that the beaches would be gone by now in many places. Oil and natural gas would be depleted and we would have a decade or so more of fuel before it vanished. The architects of fear are always around. And we humans are gullible as they make obscene amounts of money on their taxation and extra charges for products and services. Also the continents do drift a bit also. Moving beaches back a half a block would be more successful even with the massive amount of property built closer to the beach then the global warming scam.

Yeah, in regard to your New Orleans.
New Orleans Is Slowly Drowning. When Do I Leave?
https://nola.gov/nola/media/Climate-Action/Climate-Action-for-a-Resilient-New-Orleans.pdf

Why do you Leftards hate science so much?

Well, WM, you have to know that these Leftards don't know what science really is. They've been steeped all their life in the illusory, progressive balm of takers and victims, whereby the successful for themself (a capitalist) is taking his unfair rewards for his hard work from the lowly masses of victims whom just weren't dealt the hand they wanted in life, and so, must spend the rest of their wearisome lives getting even, instead of succeeding. So, they use science as their tool of engineering the desired outcome rather than getting at the true facts.

Does your post mean something?

Can you try English next time?

 

[toobfreak]

No Climate Change, Huh?​

Nope. My climate is just fine where I'm at. Just as it was last year and five years ago and 30 years before that! Maybe if California got rid of 50 million people or so and stopped sucking up all the electricity and drinking water, your climate might be better too. It's NORMAL for it to be hot and dry out west especially during certain cyclic seasons.

Exactly who in their right mind thinks today’s global climate is optimum when the most prolific period for life was when palm trees were growing in Alaska.

When Florida and the East coast is underwater.

So are you trying to tell us Florida was never underwater before???

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250781284.html

Miami like other areas and cities built much of its infrastructure nut to butt to the ocean. New Orleans is actually below sea level. We build on barrier islands and keep building. We love the beaches. Those islands are to protect the mainland. The science a half century ago when this became more mainstream promoted that the beaches would be gone by now in many places. Oil and natural gas would be depleted and we would have a decade or so more of fuel before it vanished. The architects of fear are always around. And we humans are gullible as they make obscene amounts of money on their taxation and extra charges for products and services. Also the continents do drift a bit also. Moving beaches back a half a block would be more successful even with the massive amount of property built closer to the beach then the global warming scam.

Yeah, in regard to your New Orleans.
New Orleans Is Slowly Drowning. When Do I Leave?
https://nola.gov/nola/media/Climate-Action/Climate-Action-for-a-Resilient-New-Orleans.pdf

Why do you Leftards hate science so much?

Well, WM, you have to know that these Leftards don't know what science really is. They've been steeped all their life in the illusory, progressive balm of takers and victims, whereby the successful for themself (a capitalist) is taking his unfair rewards for his hard work from the lowly masses of victims whom just weren't dealt the hand they wanted in life, and so, must spend the rest of their wearisome lives getting even, instead of succeeding. So, they use science as their tool of engineering the desired outcome rather than getting at the true facts.

Does your post mean something?

Can you try English next time?

Go back to sleep. I'm sure it's way over your head.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The question isn't whether the climate changes, but whether mankind can do anything to alter climate change. Of course the answer is no,

Yes. Throwing your hands up and doing nothing is what magaturds are famous for supporting. Still doesn't mean everyone is a short sighted piece of shit like them.

all we can do is adapt.

The difference in adaptation between political tribes is a gulf. Don't be thick. Just admit your ideology gives no fucks about the future. It's all about right now. You got yours, fuck everybody else.

 

[Polishprince]

The question isn't whether the climate changes, but whether mankind can do anything to alter climate change. Of course the answer is no,

Yes. Throwing your hands up and doing nothing is what magaturds are famous for supporting. Still doesn't mean everyone is a short sighted piece of shit like them.

all we can do is adapt.

The difference in adaptation between political tribes is a gulf. Don't be thick. Just admit your ideology gives no fucks about the future. It's all about right now. You got yours, fuck everybody else.

Pardon me, the liberal panacea designed to change the climate just hasn't worked.

If the libs were proposing a PROVEN plan to cool the planet, that would be one thing.

But all that is being offered is warmed over Marxism being offered as a sure cure for bad weather.

Excuse me for being unimpressed.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Pardon me, the liberal panacea designed to change the climate just hasn't worked.

What, did it take you a whole 1 to 3 years to come to that conclusion? I just love anecdotal bullshit.

If the libs were proposing a PROVEN plan to cool the planet, that would be one thing.

I don't believe there's one proposal by Democrats that's going to guarantee any "cooling" of the planet. Care to provide a source for this assumed nonsense?

But all that is being offered is warmed over Marxism being offered as a sure cure for bad weather.

That's the dumbest bit of hyperbolic emotional drivel I've read in quite some time. Well played.

Excuse me for being unimpressed.

No excuse necessary.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.

No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.

At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.

Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time​

View attachment 502683

Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.

The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.

While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.

"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.

The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.

"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.

The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.

A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN

Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

www.cnn.com

A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.

No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.

At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.

Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time​

View attachment 502683

Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.

The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.

While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.

"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.

The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.

"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.

The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.

A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN

Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

www.cnn.com

A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"

Yep. Two whole words.

 

[Polishprince]

Pardon me, the liberal panacea designed to change the climate just hasn't worked.

What, did it take you a whole 1 to 3 years to come to that conclusion? I just love anecdotal bullshit.

If the libs were proposing a PROVEN plan to cool the planet, that would be one thing.

I don't believe there's one proposal by Democrats that's going to guarantee any "cooling" of the planet. Care to provide a source for this assumed nonsense?

But all that is being offered is warmed over Marxism being offered as a sure cure for bad weather.

That's the dumbest bit of hyperbolic emotional drivel I've read in quite some time. Well played.

Excuse me for being unimpressed.

No excuse necessary.

If the Liberal plan to change the weather isn't guaranteed to work, why ruin the livelihoods of millions with the Fake Plan?

I want a PROVEN solution to cool off the country.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Pardon me, the liberal panacea designed to change the climate just hasn't worked.

What, did it take you a whole 1 to 3 years to come to that conclusion? I just love anecdotal bullshit.

If the libs were proposing a PROVEN plan to cool the planet, that would be one thing.

I don't believe there's one proposal by Democrats that's going to guarantee any "cooling" of the planet. Care to provide a source for this assumed nonsense?

But all that is being offered is warmed over Marxism being offered as a sure cure for bad weather.

That's the dumbest bit of hyperbolic emotional drivel I've read in quite some time. Well played.

Excuse me for being unimpressed.

No excuse necessary.

If the Liberal plan to change the weather isn't guaranteed to work, why ruin the livelihoods of millions with the Fake Plan?

I want a PROVEN solution to cool off the country.

I just want a new pony.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.

No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.

At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.

Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!

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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time​

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Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.

The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.

While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.

"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.

The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.

"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.

The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.

A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN

Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.

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A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"

Yep. Two whole words.

Climate change has happened since day one of weather on the planet.

Man made climate change is a lot harder to prove.

 

[otto105]

The question isn't whether the climate changes, but whether mankind can do anything to alter climate change. Of course the answer is no,

Yes. Throwing your hands up and doing nothing is what magaturds are famous for supporting. Still doesn't mean everyone is a short sighted piece of shit like them.

all we can do is adapt.

The difference in adaptation between political tribes is a gulf. Don't be thick. Just admit your ideology gives no fucks about the future. It's all about right now. You got yours, fuck everybody else.

Pardon me, the liberal panacea designed to change the climate just hasn't worked.

If the libs were proposing a PROVEN plan to cool the planet, that would be one thing.

But all that is being offered is warmed over Marxism being offered as a sure cure for bad weather.

Excuse me for being unimpressed.

Can you post what Karl Marx offered to combat AGW? I forgot what he said.

 

[Mustang]

Conservatives are funny...but not in a funny way. They make it clear that they're not impressed by scientific consensus. Of course, that's when they trot out some scientist with clearly questionable, of not dubious, credentials, who's more than willing to say exactly what they want to hear. Then they all jump on his bandwagon as if he's a man with credibility like no other peer.

Just as likely, conservatives love to embrace contrary anecdotal evidence like a snow storm or a cold snap to say, "See, there's no global warming and climate change is just a scam!"

Well, here's some anecdotal evidence that should scare everyone. The northern city of Portland Oregon, which has a long history of cool summer temperatures, had a record-breaking high temp of 108 degrees yesterday, and it's not even July or August yet.

What does this portend for southern cities like Houston, or Dallas, or Phoenix?

Portland, Oregon, sets high-temperature record as heat wave bakes the Northwest

The Pacific Northwest is baking in a record-breaking heat wave, with an all-time high of 108 degrees Fahrenheit reported Saturday in Portland, Oregon.

www.stltoday.com

 

[petro]

Don't build in deserts or flood plains.
Simple.