No Climate Change, Huh?
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Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
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Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.www.cnn.com
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
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Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
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Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
Huh?
Canon Shooter
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You failed before you even reach the end of your first sentence by choosing to stupidly blame conservatives.
This is not a "liberal vs. conservative" issue. It never has been, despite dipshit libs whining about conservatives.
If liberals and conservatives in this country agreed with each other on every single facet of "climate change", we'd still be fucked six ways to Sunday, simply because there's a whole lot of the rest of the world out there that's not at all interested in climate change. All you have to do is look at the reduction failures under the Paris Accord to see that...
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Unfortunately for everyone, conservatives deal with unpleasant or unwelcome/unwanted news by engaging in full scale denial as if pretending it doesn't exist will make it go away.
Wyatt earp
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108 degrees huh? What was the temperature in Portland on June 27th 1776?Conservatives are funny...but not in a funny way. They make it clear that they're not impressed by scientific consensus. Of course, that's when they trot out some scientist with clearly questionable, of not dubious, credentials, who's more than willing to say exactly what they want to hear. Then they all jump on his bandwagon as if he's a man with credibility like no other peer.
Just as likely, conservatives love to embrace contrary anecdotal evidence like a snow storm or a cold snap to say, "See, there's no global warming and climate change is just a scam!"
Well, here's some anecdotal evidence that should scare everyone. The northern city of Portland Oregon, which has a long history of cool summer temperatures, had a record-breaking high temp of 108 degrees yesterday, and it's not even July or August yet.
What does this portend for southern cities like Houston, or Dallas, or Phoenix?
Portland, Oregon, sets high-temperature record as heat wave bakes the Northwest
The Pacific Northwest is baking in a record-breaking heat wave, with an all-time high of 108 degrees Fahrenheit reported Saturday in Portland, Oregon.www.stltoday.com
By the way if you studied the subject the scientific consensus consists of people who study worms and other obstruct ones who in no way are climate scientist
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Yeah in no way in hell did democrats in Chicago let dead people vote...huh?
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I love your indoctrination, you must make your teachers proud
I will tell you simply. I have a traditional nuclear family with 2 kids and earning 50 thousand dollars. With all the added programs and other things agendas start, That family may pay a few thousand dollars a year more then what perhaps should be paid. And with the relentless push by Prog agendas in everything we buy and do and their climate ones, that will go to several thousand dollars more. There was a time one person could work and take care of the family. Still exists. but at a drastically reduced percentage.Conservatives are funny...but not in a funny way. They make it clear that they're not impressed by scientific consensus. Of course, that's when they trot out some scientist with clearly questionable, of not dubious, credentials, who's more than willing to say exactly what they want to hear. Then they all jump on his bandwagon as if he's a man with credibility like no other peer.
Just as likely, conservatives love to embrace contrary anecdotal evidence like a snow storm or a cold snap to say, "See, there's no global warming and climate change is just a scam!"
Well, here's some anecdotal evidence that should scare everyone. The northern city of Portland Oregon, which has a long history of cool summer temperatures, had a record-breaking high temp of 108 degrees yesterday, and it's not even July or August yet.
What does this portend for southern cities like Houston, or Dallas, or Phoenix?
Portland, Oregon, sets high-temperature record as heat wave bakes the Northwest
The Pacific Northwest is baking in a record-breaking heat wave, with an all-time high of 108 degrees Fahrenheit reported Saturday in Portland, Oregon.
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Guam tipped over, right?
So we need to exterminate most of the humans to bring about balance? According to you its the sheer number of people that is the problem. Are you going to volunteer, for the sake of mankind?Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
View attachment 502683
Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
I believe in global warming. So you agree with scientific consensus that life begins at fertilization and there are only two sexes?Conservatives are funny...but not in a funny way. They make it clear that they're not impressed by scientific consensus. Of course, that's when they trot out some scientist with clearly questionable, of not dubious, credentials, who's more than willing to say exactly what they want to hear. Then they all jump on his bandwagon as if he's a man with credibility like no other peer.
Just as likely, conservatives love to embrace contrary anecdotal evidence like a snow storm or a cold snap to say, "See, there's no global warming and climate change is just a scam!"
Well, here's some anecdotal evidence that should scare everyone. The northern city of Portland Oregon, which has a long history of cool summer temperatures, had a record-breaking high temp of 108 degrees yesterday, and it's not even July or August yet.
What does this portend for southern cities like Houston, or Dallas, or Phoenix?
Portland, Oregon, sets high-temperature record as heat wave bakes the Northwest
The Pacific Northwest is baking in a record-breaking heat wave, with an all-time high of 108 degrees Fahrenheit reported Saturday in Portland, Oregon.
Suddenly once again weather is climate!
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Bless your dear little apples to oranges python bullshit. Pythons do not go after adult alligators, they are overmatched.Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
View attachment 502683
Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
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You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
View attachment 502683
Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
Barak believes in it so much he bought a House on the beach.
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Bless your dear little apples to oranges python bullshit. Pythons do not go after adult alligators, they are overmatched.Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
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Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
Certainly pythons will not win every battle with alligators. Part of the reason is size. But pythons can squeeze the breath out of alligators if they manage to wrap around them, and suffocation can and will take the fight out of any animal, regardless of how ferocious they might otherwise be.
Do Burmese pythons eat alligators?
Burmese pythons are eating machines. An adult snake can grow to nearly 20 ft., and it can eat everything from raccoons to bobcats to deer to alligators, killing its prey by constriction and then swallowing them whole. On the jungle food chain, Burmese pythons rest near the top.
How Burmese Pythons Are Devouring the Florida Everglades ...
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Invaders: How Burmese Pythons Are Devouring the Everglades | TIME.com
Burmese pythons are eating machines. An adult snake can grow to nearly 20 ft., and it can eat everything from raccoons to bobcats to deer to alligators, killing its prey by constriction and then swallowing them whole. On the jungle food chain, Burmese pythons rest near the top.
science.time.com
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The individual human life is comparatively short when compared to geologic time. Anyone could buy a beach front property and probably sell it for a profit in ten years after enjoying it every year of that time. Personally, you probably wouldn't want to be holding that deed 75 years from now, especially if the sea had reclaimed the land.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
View attachment 502683
Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
Barak believes in it so much he bought a House on the beach.
- Thread starter
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We don't need to exterminate anyone. Climate change is going to take care of that.So we need to exterminate most of the humans to bring about balance? According to you its the sheer number of people that is the problem. Are you going to volunteer, for the sake of mankind?Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
View attachment 502683
Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
It's 121.3 degrees in Lyfton Canada where it's normally about 77 degrees this time of year. Is there a light bulb coming on for any conservatives who have been burying their heads in the sand for years regarding climate change? Or are we just going to get more of the same denial BS?
Unprecedented heat, hundreds dead and a town destroyed. Climate change is frying the Northern Hemisphere | CNN
The tiny town of Lytton has come to hold a grim record. On Tuesday, it experienced Canada's highest-ever temperature, in an unprecedented heat wave that has over a week killed hundreds of people and triggered more than 240 wildfires across British Columbia, most of which are still burning.
www.cnn.com
You are talking weather, not climate.We don't need to exterminate anyone. Climate change is going to take care of that.So we need to exterminate most of the humans to bring about balance? According to you its the sheer number of people that is the problem. Are you going to volunteer, for the sake of mankind?Any species, in large enough numbers, can overwhelm an ecosystem. In the past, this has happened when a nonnative invasive species is introduce into a new ecosystem especially when they have no natural predators.You would think that conservatives would tire of being on the wrong side of the issues pretty much all of the time. Apparently not. But hey, we're all fallible humans, right? But seemingly, even fallible humans can learn from their mistakes. Except for conservatives, that is.
No, conservatives will likely be denying climate change 50-100 years from now when coastal America is flooded, and we have wildfires in the dead of winter with low temperatures of only about 75 degrees, and our crops are all failing due to a lack of rain and too much heat, and people are trying to recycle their urine at home in an effort to have enough drinking water. My guess is no one will even listen to conservatives at that point, assuming that anyone is crazy enough to admit to being one.
At any rate, everyone is familiar with the concept of the double whammy, right? That's when two bad things happen that might very well be related in some way. Well, this qualifies except that it's more than just a DOUBLE whammy.
Yeah, not only are we losing sources of drinking water and water to irrigate our crops (I don't know about you, but I've gotten used to eating), but if the reservoir falls only another 60 feet during the West's current record heat wave days before summer has even arrived, CA will lose hydropower generation at this reservoir that would normally power hundreds of thousands of homes during the height of the summer heat which is also the peak of the wildfire season. Good times!
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A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time
View attachment 502683
Water in a key California reservoir will fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
An unrelenting drought and record heat, both worsened by the changing climate, have pushed the water supply at Northern California's Lake Oroville to deplete rapidly. As a result of the "alarming levels," officials will likely be forced to close the Edward Hyatt Power Plant for the first time since it opened in 1967, California Energy Commission spokesperson Lindsay Buckley told CNN.
The water in Lake Oroville — the state's second largest reservoir — is pumped through underground facilities to generate electricity, which can power up to 800,000 homes when operating at full capacity.
While the water level in the reservoir is currently hovering around 700 feet above sea level, if it continues to fall at the currently projected rate to 640 feet there will not be enough water to continue operating the Hyatt plant in two to three months, coinciding with the typical peak of the summer heat and wildfire season.
"If lake levels fall below those elevations later this summer, DWR will, for the first time, cease generation at the Hyatt power plant due to lack of sufficient water to turn the plant's electrical generation turbines," said Liza Whitmore, Public Information Officer of DWR's Oroville Field Division.
The announcement came as California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a statewide heat wave emergency Thursday, with record setting temperatures and increased electricity use adding pressure to the grid.
"Amid a major heat wave that is stressing energy grids in states across the western United States, Governor Gavin Newsom today signed an emergency proclamation to free up additional energy capacity," Newsom's office said in a press release.
The governor's declaration, citing "extreme peril" to the safety residents due to the heat wave, suspends permitting requirements to allow the immediate use of back-up power generators to help alleviate stress on the state's energy grid.
California energy grid officials have called on residents to reduce power through Friday, especially during the evenings when electricity use is at its peak. Scaling back on using power during this peak time of the day will help avoid unneeded rolling power outages and damaged power lines, state officials previously said.
A California reservoir is expected to fall so low that a hydro-power plant will shut down for first time | CNN
Water in a key California reservoir is expected to fall so low this summer that its hydroelectric power plant will be forced to shut down for the first time, officials said Thursday, straining the state's already-taxed electric grid.
A BIG difference between "climate change" and "man made climate change"
It's happened in the Great Lakes when the ballast water was released from ships that entered the lakes through the St Lawrence Seaway.
Spanish Galleons unintentionally (and unknowingly) spread fire ants to various ports.
The most famous recent example has been the introduction of Burmese Pythons to the Everglades almost 30 years ago. The Everglades were famous for a very diverse and well-balanced ecosystem. Alas, not any more. Since the python has been introduced, they eat everything, and they have no predators other than man, and in an attempt to cull their numbers, a bounty on pythons was introduced. But as you can probably imagine, they're fighting a losing battle.
Image: dailystar.co.uk
Most experts believe the pythons established a reproducing population in the Everglades sometime after Hurricane Andrew—a category 5 storm that devastated the state in August 1992. It was during that storm that a python breeding facility was destroyed, releasing countless snakes into the nearby swamps.
Right about at the dawn of the Industrial Age in 1804, it's estimated that was when the human population first reached 1 billion people. It only took about another hundred years for the world population to double to to 2 billion in approximately 1930. It took only 30 years after that to reach 3 billion. 60 years later, we are on the cusp of 8 billion people which is expected to be reached some time in 2023. Current projections place the population at 10 billion by 2057. Just think about it. Despite all the wars and all the famines, the human population just continues to grow just as the number of domesticated animals grows. But clearly, the world stays the same size.
All these people eat and consume resources. They will require water and arable land. They will drive cars, and use electricity. They will put out more and more CO2 even as they cut down forests that take CO2 out of the air. And all over the world, factories will operate somewhere even when we are sleeping.
Humans are the pythons of the world ecosystem.
It's 121.3 degrees in Lyfton Canada where it's normally about 77 degrees this time of year. Is there a light bulb coming on for any conservatives who have been burying their heads in the sand for years regarding climate change? Or are we just going to get more of the same denial BS?
Unprecedented heat, hundreds dead and a town destroyed. Climate change is frying the Northern Hemisphere | CNN
The tiny town of Lytton has come to hold a grim record. On Tuesday, it experienced Canada's highest-ever temperature, in an unprecedented heat wave that has over a week killed hundreds of people and triggered more than 240 wildfires across British Columbia, most of which are still burning.
I’m not dismissing anything, you are the one claiming we are the “pythons“ of the ecosystem. You want rto argue with yourself? Be my guest.
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