Nicola Sturgeon: Scottish independence may offer ‘greatest stability’ post-Brexit

[barryqwalsh]

One month after the EU referendum vote, the First Minister warned the UK is heading for a “hard Brexit” which will leave it frozen out of the EU single market and with major restrictions to freedom of movement.

"Our interest in having influence - making sure that we don’t just have to abide by the rules of the single market but also have a say in shaping them."

Nicola Sturgeon


Her warning came as her predecessor Alex Salmond yesterday set out a two-and-a-half year timetable for a second referendum if a deal cannot be reached to secure Scotland’s EU status as part of the UK.


Nicola Sturgeon: Scottish independence may offer ‘greatest stability’ post-Brexit

 

[barryqwalsh]

"The Brexit vote will have far-reaching consequences for the future of the UK economy, society, and polity. But it's also a wake-up call to the rest of the EU. One can only hope that this wake-up call will be answered - and answered in a way that calls forth an abundance of clear-mindedness and statesmanship."

Post-Brexit EU unsustainable in its present form - S&P - Independent.ie

 

[Phoenall]

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One month after the EU referendum vote, the First Minister warned the UK is heading for a “hard Brexit” which will leave it frozen out of the EU single market and with major restrictions to freedom of movement.

"Our interest in having influence - making sure that we don’t just have to abide by the rules of the single market but also have a say in shaping them."

Nicola Sturgeon


Her warning came as her predecessor Alex Salmond yesterday set out a two-and-a-half year timetable for a second referendum if a deal cannot be reached to secure Scotland’s EU status as part of the UK.


Nicola Sturgeon: Scottish independence may offer ‘greatest stability’ post-Brexit

She knows that she has no chance and is just stirring it up so she can claim it was all Westminsters fault when things go bad. The way to beat her is to tell her she can have her referendum as long as she pays for it, then if it is a leave vote she has to pay the costs involved and it will be a case of 48 hours after the result is known the ties are cut and no more money crosses from Scotland to England and vice versa. No bail out if she fails and Scotland is bankrupt within the month, no dipping into British coffers anymore to pay for free prescriptions and free education. Her country is too small to have any influence and she will be walk all over by the rest of Europe. Then she will have to suffer the complaints of her own people unable to continue their Jobs in England because of border controls that will be in place. Has she worked out the costs of having to issue all drivers with new driving licenses, new NI numbers, new NHS numbers, new TV licenses etc. because the British one's will no longer be valid. Like Salmond before her she thinks she can just demand that Britain keep bailing her out and the first time she comes and is told you are no longer part of the union she will get a shock.

 

[Phoenall]

"The Brexit vote will have far-reaching consequences for the future of the UK economy, society, and polity. But it's also a wake-up call to the rest of the EU. One can only hope that this wake-up call will be answered - and answered in a way that calls forth an abundance of clear-mindedness and statesmanship."

Post-Brexit EU unsustainable in its present form - S&P - Independent.ie

And also the EU if you read your link, watch as the EU implodes when other nations realise they will be asked to contribute even more to germany and France in the agriculture price fixing fiasco.

 

[StLucieBengal]

She is clueless if she thinks that the scots will vote for independence.

Price of oil isn't high enough to sustain themselves. They will get a better deal from England than the EU.

 

[montelatici]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

 

[StLucieBengal]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

Is The EU is going to give the scots £900 million that is set to grow to £2.8 billion by 2021? Cause that's what they get from the UK now.

IFS: Scotland to get billions of English income tax

Besides being part is the EU means a membership fee. The U.K. Had a net membership fee of £8.5 billion.

How does that money add up for the scots with energy prices down?

 

[westwall]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

The UK economy will settle down. And then it will begin rising again and eventually it will be back up to where it was, and with any sort of common sense legislation they will be able to grow the economy which under the EU rules would have been impossible.

 

[montelatici]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

The UK economy will settle down. And then it will begin rising again and eventually it will be back up to where it was, and with any sort of common sense legislation they will be able to grow the economy which under the EU rules would have been impossible.

Relative to the EU economy, the UK economy will go back to what it was relative to the other EU states before it joined the EEC. The UK economy grew only because it has had access to the Single Market. Once it is out the UK economy will revert to its natural state, as a non-manufacturing, services based economy with a small 60 million population as the market for said services as opposed to the 500 million population of the EU as its market. Why should it be any different?

How can the UK market grow when its market access is reduced 90%?

You folks can't think straight.

 

[StLucieBengal]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

The UK economy will settle down. And then it will begin rising again and eventually it will be back up to where it was, and with any sort of common sense legislation they will be able to grow the economy which under the EU rules would have been impossible.

Relative to the EU economy, the UK economy will go back to what it was relative to the other EU states before it joined the EEC. The UK economy grew only because it has had access to the Single Market. Once it is out the UK economy will revert to its natural state, as a non-manufacturing, services based economy with a small 60 million population as the market for said services as opposed to the 500 million population of the EU as its market. Why should it be any different?

How can the UK market grow when its market access is reduced 90%?

You folks can't think straight.

You assume no one who has a relationship with the EU will trade with the U.K.

That's crazy to think that way.

 

[Phoenall]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

The UK economy will settle down. And then it will begin rising again and eventually it will be back up to where it was, and with any sort of common sense legislation they will be able to grow the economy which under the EU rules would have been impossible.

Relative to the EU economy, the UK economy will go back to what it was relative to the other EU states before it joined the EEC. The UK economy grew only because it has had access to the Single Market. Once it is out the UK economy will revert to its natural state, as a non-manufacturing, services based economy with a small 60 million population as the market for said services as opposed to the 500 million population of the EU as its market. Why should it be any different?

How can the UK market grow when its market access is reduced 90%?

You folks can't think straight.

Simply by being better than all the rest and giving value for money. Relative to the other EU states we have the fastest growth and the largest growth and even after brexit we did better than any EU state . Many of the EU states are in negative GDP because of their reliance on a single market with fixed prices set by centeralised government. This does not take into account the difference between Germany and Romania in regards to wages and disposable income, so a German can afford to buy an apple costing 1 Euro while a Romanian cant. Take the failed experiment when the EU produced 1 million tons of surplus butter that was stored in warehouses that had to be built for the purpose. The money generated by the production of the butter was lost in the building of the first warehouse, and so they had to give the butter away to the elderly. Just one example of the waste generated by the EU, and why it is failing to meet its own targets.

Spain and Portugal are waiting to be hit with hefty fines for failing to get their economies under control, wont be long before it is France and Germany

 

[Phoenall]

How can the UK give Scotland a "better deal"? With a shrinking GDP that is now less than 15% of the Eurozone's, how would that be possible?

The UK economy will settle down. And then it will begin rising again and eventually it will be back up to where it was, and with any sort of common sense legislation they will be able to grow the economy which under the EU rules would have been impossible.

Relative to the EU economy, the UK economy will go back to what it was relative to the other EU states before it joined the EEC. The UK economy grew only because it has had access to the Single Market. Once it is out the UK economy will revert to its natural state, as a non-manufacturing, services based economy with a small 60 million population as the market for said services as opposed to the 500 million population of the EU as its market. Why should it be any different?

How can the UK market grow when its market access is reduced 90%?

You folks can't think straight.

You assume no one who has a relationship with the EU will trade with the U.K.

That's crazy to think that way.

That is how he operates and wonders why so many firms wont deal with him anymore. He is the EU in minature