Buffeted by Economic Woes, U.K. Starts to Look at Brexit With ‘Bregret’

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Buffeted by Economic Woes, U.K. Starts to Look at Brexit With ‘Bregret’​

Stung by inflation and bracing for tax increases, the country is in the midst of its gravest slump in a generation, leading many to wonder how much the split with the European Union is to blame.

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Chester, northwestern England, this month. Among the Group of 7 advanced countries, Britain is the only one with an economy that is smaller now than it was before the pandemic started.

Chester, northwestern England, this month. Among the Group of 7 advanced countries, Britain is the only one with an economy that is smaller now than it was before the pandemic started.Credit...Oli Scarff/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

Chester, northwestern England, this month. Among the Group of 7 advanced countries, Britain is the only one with an economy that is smaller now than it was before the pandemic started.

Mark Landler
By Mark Landler
Nov. 22, 2022
LONDON — Six and a half years after voting to leave the European Union, three years after the formal departure, two years after signing a post-Brexit trade deal with Brussels and one month after installing its fourth prime minister since the 2016 referendum, Britain is caught in — what else? — another debate over Brexit.
Brexit may be in the history books, but “Bregret,” as the British newspapers have called it, is back in the air.
The cause of the remorse is clear: Britain’s economic crisis, which is the gravest in a generation and worse than those of its European neighbors. Not all — or even most — of the problems are because of Brexit, but Britain’s vexed trade relationship with the rest of Europe indisputably plays a role. That makes it a ripe target for an anxious public casting about for something to blame.
The latest eruption of this never-ending drama began last week with an opinion poll that showed support for Brexit had fallen to its lowest level yet. Only 32 percent of those surveyed in the poll, by the firm YouGov, said that they thought leaving the European Union was a good idea; 56 percent said it was a mistake.

The Brexit second-guessing grew louder this week, after The Sunday Times of London published a report that Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was considering pursuing a closer arrangement with the European Union, modeled on that of Switzerland. The Swiss have access to the single market and fewer border checks, in return for paying into the bloc’s coffers and accepting some of its rules.
Mr. Sunak quickly shot down the report, which was attributed to “senior government sources.”
“Under my leadership,” Mr. Sunak told business executives on Monday, “the United Kingdom will not pursue any relationship with Europe that relies on alignment with E.U. laws.”

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I voted for Brexit, I believe in Brexit,” Mr. Sunak added. “I know that Brexit can deliver, and is already delivering, enormous benefits and opportunities for the country.”

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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said on Monday that, under his leadership, “the United Kingdom will not pursue any relationship with Europe that relies on alignment with E.U. laws.”

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said on Monday that, under his leadership, “the United Kingdom will not pursue any relationship with Europe that relies on alignment with E.U. laws.”Credit...Tolga Akmen/EPA, via Shutterstock

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said on Monday that, under his leadership, “the United Kingdom will not pursue any relationship with Europe that relies on alignment with E.U. laws.”

But the prime minister’s denial is no more likely to settle the issue than did the vow of one of his predecessors, Boris Johnson, to “get Brexit done” or the insistence of another former prime minister, Theresa May, that “Brexit means Brexit.” Both of those leaders spent much of their time in 10 Downing Street fighting battles related to the split with the bloc. Mrs. May lost her job because of it.

While nobody is predicting that Britain will seek to rejoin the European Union, political analysts said that the Sunday Times report, on top of the dismal economic data and growing popular sentiment against Brexit, would open a fresh chapter in Britain’s search for a new relationship with the rest of Europe. Where that would lead, they cautioned, was impossible to predict.
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“A genie’s been let out of the bottle,” said Mujtaba Rahman, an analyst at the political risk consultancy Eurasia Group. “What’s beginning is a much more fundamental debate. What is the long-run equilibrium between the two sides? Is it Switzerland? Is it Norway?” he added, referring to a country that has even closer ties to the European Union than Switzerland, also without being a member.
“You can’t really address the economic problems the U.K. has without addressing and improving the trade relationship with the E.U,” Mr. Rahman said. “Otherwise, you’re just fiddling around the edges.”
Calculating how much to blame Brexit for Britain’s woes is tricky, however, given all the other headwinds battering the country. Economists note that Britain has been cursed by stagnant growth since the financial crisis of 2009, a result of inadequate investment and slumping productivity.
In a forecast released last week alongside Mr. Sunak’s new budget, a fiscal watchdog group, the Office for Budget Responsibility, said that Brexit had exerted a “significant adverse impact” on Britain’s trade.
It has also exacerbated labor shortages across businesses as diverse as London restaurants and trucking companies. While some of that is because of Britons who left their jobs during the coronavirus pandemic and have not yet rejoined the labor force — a sort of economic long Covid — employers are also struggling to replace workers from Europe who went home after Brexit and did not return.

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A commuter train in London this month. Calculating how much to blame Brexit for Britain’s woes is tricky, given all the other headwinds battering the country.

A commuter train in London this month. Calculating how much to blame Brexit for Britain’s woes is tricky, given all the other headwinds battering the country.Credit...Daniel Leal/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

A commuter train in London this month. Calculating how much to blame Brexit for Britain’s woes is tricky, given all the other headwinds battering the country.

It is not an accident that public sentiment began to swing against Brexit a year ago, when Britain suffered an acute shortage of truck drivers, which caused delays in deliveries of fuel to gas stations and long lines of motorists. That ended a honeymoon earlier in the year, when the government claimed, dubiously, that its swift approval and rollout of a Covid vaccine was thanks to Brexit.

Since then, Britain has been gripped by double-digit inflation, rising interest rates and a recession that the Bank of England recently warned could last two years. Among the Group of 7 advanced countries, Britain is the only one with an economy that is smaller now than it was before the pandemic started. It was recently overtaken by India as the world’s fifth-largest economy.
“We can argue about the extent to which Brexit is responsible for Britain’s economic problems,” said John Curtice, a professor of politics at the University of Strathclyde, Scotland, and a leading British expert on polling. “But it is very difficult to convince people that a wonderful economic nirvana is coming around the corner because of Brexit.”
Mr. Sunak has other problems. There is no indication that the European Union would go along with a Swiss-style arrangement for Britain, even if he pursued it. Britain has refused to abide by an agreement it struck with Brussels on the hybrid trade status of Northern Ireland, which is part of the United Kingdom but shares a border with the Republic of Ireland, a member of the European Union.
While Mr. Sunak has tried to lower the temperature in talks with Brussels over that deal, there is no imminent sign of a breakthrough. Resolving the perennial tensions over Northern Ireland is a prerequisite for any bigger reset.
There is even less hope that his Conservative Party, with its powerful euroskeptic flank, would accept a Swiss-style relationship. The Sunday Times report provoked fierce denunciations from Brexiteers like David Frost, who had negotiated the trade agreement with Brussels for Mr. Johnson.

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Outside the Bank of England in London this month. The central bank warned recently that the recession in Britain could last two years.

Outside the Bank of England in London this month. The central bank warned recently that the recession in Britain could last two years.Credit...Kin Cheung/Associated Press

Outside the Bank of England in London this month. The central bank warned recently that the recession in Britain could last two years.


There has been fevered speculation about who might have leaked it, ranging from Mr. Sunak’s chancellor of the Exchequer, Jeremy Hunt, who voted against Brexit, to Mr. Sunak himself. The prime minister’s Brexiteer credentials are often questioned by hard-line euroskeptics because of his more pragmatic style.
“The way to deal with the economic consequences of Brexit would not be tolerable politically for many in the Tory party,” said Anand Menon, a professor of European politics at Kings College London.
That leaves Mr. Sunak in a quandary. The most obvious solution is politically unpalatable. His predecessors were able to promote Brexit as a blow for British sovereignty or as a curb against uncontrolled immigration. Now, it is being judged on its economic impact — and being found sorely wanting.
“Brexit wasn’t viewed through the lens of economics,” Professor Menon said. “It was viewed through culture or values. Now everything is economic, and while you can sell Brexit many ways, selling it as a boost to G.D.P. is a stretch.”
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Mark Landler is the London bureau chief. In 27 years at The Times, he has been bureau chief in Hong Kong and Frankfurt, White House correspondent, diplomatic correspondent, European economic correspondent, and a business reporter in New York. @MarkLandler
A version of this article appears in print on Nov. 23, 2022, Section A, Page 5 of the New York edition with the headline: In Slumping U.K., Feelings Of ‘Bregret’ Toward Brexit. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
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ok, well, as far as i'm concerned, i'm *advising* the EU to take the British back into the EU group.
it's good for cohesion. and we need to show the British we support them in a time of need and distress.
we should NOT, in mainland Europe, focus only on our self-interest, unless a re-unification of the EU puts the EU in danger.
so we'll need a proper, sturdy & *wise* duo of taskforces in Brussels and London to work on this, in my view.
what do you Americans think? because a strong EU is good for the USA too, i believe.

no, it's probably not the smartest thing, economically speaking, for the EU to be doing at this point.
but since we are very close to eachother by airplane flight time, we do need to do this (to show that 'cheesy' brotherly & sisterly love by allowing the British back into the EU at the Brussels side).
think of it as a very wise long term investment, IF we can afford it.
bring in the bean-counters and the lawyers, please, Brussels! ;)
 
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God's Garden is thriving without the interference of unelected pedophiles governors.

Away from the now bankrupt EU, with other countries starting to have serious concerns .

All we need to do is shed our out of date special relationship with the Banana Republic of America and trade more and more with the future power houses .

China , Russia , Japan and India just for starters .
And stop spending our money to support a Kyiv Nazi government propped up by US Nazis hiding under the NATO flag .
 



ok, well, as far as i'm concerned, i'm *advising* the EU to take the British back into the EU group.
it's good for cohesion. and we need to show the British we support them in a time of need and distress.
we should NOT, in mainland Europe, focus only on our self-interest, unless a re-unification of the EU puts the EU in danger.
so we'll need a proper, sturdy & *wise* duo of taskforces in Brussels and London to work on this, in my view.
what do you Americans think? because a strong EU is good for the USA too, i believe.

no, it's probably not the smartest thing, economically speaking, for the EU to be doing at this point.
but since we are very close to eachother by airplane flight time, we do need to do this (to show that 'cheesy' brotherly & sisterly love by allowing the British back into the EU at the Brussels side).
think of it as a very wise long term investment, IF we can afford it.
bring in the bean-counters and the lawyers, please, Brussels! ;)
Well,
If the EU had not allowed some countries to borrow money like drunken sailors (Greece) with no hope of ever paying it back. Then allowing completely unregulated immigration that heavily strained social services and police forces....to the point that the original cultural demographics were no longer the majority....then this wouldn't be a question.
The EU needs the UK and Germany to shore up the EU....Germany and UK don't need the EU. And the UK had enough...so they pulled out.

Now the UK gets to regulate fishing, Brent Sea oil, shipping, and Immigration. Where they did have some issues caused in the middle of the worst possible time because the UK government absolutely was unprepared for the change...it's actually a benefit to UK to leave. (UK had food literally rotting in ports and farms while grocery stores were empty) And will continue to be so until the EU gets some massive policy changes to member countries policies regarding immigration from non-member nations.
And Germany now is truly in charge of the rest of the EU....they won their war economically instead of with force this time.
The UK can improve their situation greatly if they can leverage their relationships with India and Poland better. (Labor pools of cheap labor) along side with the technology, industry and crafts they currently have. The EU cannot as a whole because of their massive debts. Germany can and their economic strength is what is supporting the Euro currency at the moment...they pull out and the others fall like dominoes.
 



ok, well, as far as i'm concerned, i'm *advising* the EU to take the British back into the EU group.
it's good for cohesion. and we need to show the British we support them in a time of need and distress.
we should NOT, in mainland Europe, focus only on our self-interest, unless a re-unification of the EU puts the EU in danger.
so we'll need a proper, sturdy & *wise* duo of taskforces in Brussels and London to work on this, in my view.
what do you Americans think? because a strong EU is good for the USA too, i believe.

no, it's probably not the smartest thing, economically speaking, for the EU to be doing at this point.
but since we are very close to eachother by airplane flight time, we do need to do this (to show that 'cheesy' brotherly & sisterly love by allowing the British back into the EU at the Brussels side).
think of it as a very wise long term investment, IF we can afford it.
bring in the bean-counters and the lawyers, please, Brussels! ;)
Brexit has been an absolute disaster in the UK. An act of national self harm. But nobody has the guts to admit it.

The tories own it and will never admit it has been shit. Labour are too scared to address the issue as they were burnt by the 2016 referendum.

The whole thing was based on lies and led by liars like Johnson and Fraage..

At some point folk will vote for a party that promises a referndum on this. Hopefully there will be less racist brexit shits involved as the tory health policies have culled most of them,.
 

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