NFL kneelers

[Reasonable]

The authoritarian right is indeed tedious and moronic.

That they obsess over this non-issue is a manifestation of true rightwing idiocy.

Had conservatives simply ignored what the players were doing from the outset, the demonstrations would have likely ended by now.

And for far too many on the right this is solely about race and conservatives’ unwarranted hostility with regard to issues that black Americans are concerned about.

If you have issues with so-called issues blacks are concerned about, you take that up with your Mayor, your Congress person, your Senator, not the audience of a sporting event.

Tell that to the MIC that runs those puppet shows out in front of a captive audience who came there for an entirely different reason. You know, the MIC that has issues with recruitment and nation-building and how much taxpayer money they can sponge for more war toys, so that they have to hijack sports events with jingoism commercials

So they pay money for advertisement and you think that's the same?

Same as -- what?

Same as players kneeling during the Anthem.

You question the players patriotism but not the pussygrabber’s when he threw America under the bus in Helsinki.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You’re a full fledged idiot. The 1st was created so all Americans could have free speech something your president is working daily to curtail and then do away with. That you turn a blind eye to this shows you’re part of the problem not the solution.

I always find it amusing when a poster who cannot grasp concepts calls somebody ELSE the idiot.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

bullshit, the CSA was part of the United States. It was a civil war, not a foreign conflict. We are having a civil war in the USA today between the leftists socialists that want to destroy the country and the patriotic americans who want to save it. Sadly, you are part of the first group.

They left the USA and formed their own nation. Fuck you people are stupid, you do not even know your own country's history.

yes, the states of the CSA wanted to establish a new country when the northern states tried to impose their will on them and destroy the economy of the south, it was not about slavery, it was about a central government trying to take away states rights. Its you who does not know history, dude, and its you who is displaying partisan stupidity here. BTW, Lincoln was a republican and Jeff Davis was a democrat, just for shits and giggles, because it actually means nothing

Oh shit --- this dood bought the whole Lost Cause textbook and swallowed whole. We did this to death in the Lost Cause threads but since you're in the right place why don't you tell the class about that obelisk at the foot of Canal Street that stood there for decades commemorating white supremacy and the White League? Why don't you post Mitch Landrieu's commentary on removing it and the other markers? Why don't you meet us in those Lost Cause threads and try to sell it there? I'll give you a link.

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

 

[Reasonable]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

The authoritarian right is indeed tedious and moronic.

That they obsess over this non-issue is a manifestation of true rightwing idiocy.

Had conservatives simply ignored what the players were doing from the outset, the demonstrations would have likely ended by now.

And for far too many on the right this is solely about race and conservatives’ unwarranted hostility with regard to issues that black Americans are concerned about.

If you have issues with so-called issues blacks are concerned about, you take that up with your Mayor, your Congress person, your Senator, not the audience of a sporting event.

If you don’t like what the players are doing... don’t look you stupid SOB.
Your Russian whore prez stuck his nose into this issue that he had no business doing.
He did it for the same reason he does everything. TO DIVIDE AMERICA.

 

[Reasonable]

You’re a full fledged idiot. The 1st was created so all Americans could have free speech something your president is working daily to curtail and then do away with. That you turn a blind eye to this shows you’re part of the problem not the solution.

I always find it amusing when a poster who cannot grasp concepts calls somebody ELSE the idiot.

Moron now thinks the 1st amendment is nebulous and difficult to grasp... to try to cover for his traitorous anti Constitution president.

 

[Reasonable]

You’re a full fledged idiot. The 1st was created so all Americans could have free speech something your president is working daily to curtail and then do away with. That you turn a blind eye to this shows you’re part of the problem not the solution.

I always find it amusing when a poster who cannot grasp concepts calls somebody ELSE the idiot.

Still laughing at YOU for not understanding what free speech means.

 

[Reasonable]

Our fake President shows his racism when he says vile things about the NFL blacks among so many others.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Kneeling is so dumb.

Rather than kneeling and pissing off all of your customers, hold signs up for the issue you are supporting.

And whining about knelling is just as dumb.

Instead of making an ‘issue’ out of a non-issue, ignore those protesting – without attention the protests will end.

 

[Pogo]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

The authoritarian right is indeed tedious and moronic.

That they obsess over this non-issue is a manifestation of true rightwing idiocy.

Had conservatives simply ignored what the players were doing from the outset, the demonstrations would have likely ended by now.

And for far too many on the right this is solely about race and conservatives’ unwarranted hostility with regard to issues that black Americans are concerned about.

If you have issues with so-called issues blacks are concerned about, you take that up with your Mayor, your Congress person, your Senator, not the audience of a sporting event.

If you don’t like what the players are doing... don’t look you stupid SOB.

Therein lies the supreme hypocrisy of all this --- he can't look, since the NA isn't even part of a TV broadcast. And that means he's "outraged" because he's told to be by his puppetmasters, and he hears and obeys, domini domini and shit.

He's like the old lady who calls a cop to complain about "that man over there taking a shower and he hasn't got the decency to pull down the shade!" Cop looks out, says "I don't see anything". Old lady goes, "here, look through this telescope".

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They left the USA and formed their own nation. Fuck you people are stupid, you do not even know your own country's history.

yes, the states of the CSA wanted to establish a new country when the northern states tried to impose their will on them and destroy the economy of the south, it was not about slavery, it was about a central government trying to take away states rights. Its you who does not know history, dude, and its you who is displaying partisan stupidity here. BTW, Lincoln was a republican and Jeff Davis was a democrat, just for shits and giggles, because it actually means nothing

Oh shit --- this dood bought the whole Lost Cause textbook and swallowed whole. We did this to death in the Lost Cause threads but since you're in the right place why don't you tell the class about that obelisk at the foot of Canal Street that stood there for decades commemorating white supremacy and the White League? Why don't you post Mitch Landrieu's commentary on removing it and the other markers? Why don't you meet us in those Lost Cause threads and try to sell it there? I'll give you a link.

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

Had the South been strong enough to win the war, then the Constitution would no longer apply to them. They had every right to try and leave the union, and the union had every right to try and stop them.

It is no different than the colonies leaving the British Empire and becoming their own country. They had every right to do so and the British had every right to try and stop them. Had the British won it would have been known as a civil war vice a revolutionary one.

 

[Pogo]

yes, the states of the CSA wanted to establish a new country when the northern states tried to impose their will on them and destroy the economy of the south, it was not about slavery, it was about a central government trying to take away states rights. Its you who does not know history, dude, and its you who is displaying partisan stupidity here. BTW, Lincoln was a republican and Jeff Davis was a democrat, just for shits and giggles, because it actually means nothing

Oh shit --- this dood bought the whole Lost Cause textbook and swallowed whole. We did this to death in the Lost Cause threads but since you're in the right place why don't you tell the class about that obelisk at the foot of Canal Street that stood there for decades commemorating white supremacy and the White League? Why don't you post Mitch Landrieu's commentary on removing it and the other markers? Why don't you meet us in those Lost Cause threads and try to sell it there? I'll give you a link.

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

Had the South been strong enough to win the war, then the Constitution would no longer apply to them. They had every right to try and leave the union, and the union had every right to try and stop them.

It is no different than the colonies leaving the British Empire and becoming their own country. They had every right to do so and the British had every right to try and stop them. Had the British won it would have been known as a civil war vice a revolutionary one.

Actually it is different because the South was not a colony. And if that revolution had failed it would still be known as a 'revolutionary' war (or insurrection) that failed. A civil war is internal.

This is ALL off the topic here.

 

[kaz]

If you have issues with so-called issues blacks are concerned about, you take that up with your Mayor, your Congress person, your Senator, not the audience of a sporting event.

Tell that to the MIC that runs those puppet shows out in front of a captive audience who came there for an entirely different reason. You know, the MIC that has issues with recruitment and nation-building and how much taxpayer money they can sponge for more war toys, so that they have to hijack sports events with jingoism commercials

So they pay money for advertisement and you think that's the same?

Same as -- what?

Same as players kneeling during the Anthem.

You question the players patriotism but not the pussygrabber’s when he threw America under the bus in Helsinki.

You're such a misogynist that you're angry Trump is a dog but don't give a shit Bill was a sexual predator

 

[kaz]

Oh shit --- this dood bought the whole Lost Cause textbook and swallowed whole. We did this to death in the Lost Cause threads but since you're in the right place why don't you tell the class about that obelisk at the foot of Canal Street that stood there for decades commemorating white supremacy and the White League? Why don't you post Mitch Landrieu's commentary on removing it and the other markers? Why don't you meet us in those Lost Cause threads and try to sell it there? I'll give you a link.

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

Had the South been strong enough to win the war, then the Constitution would no longer apply to them. They had every right to try and leave the union, and the union had every right to try and stop them.

It is no different than the colonies leaving the British Empire and becoming their own country. They had every right to do so and the British had every right to try and stop them. Had the British won it would have been known as a civil war vice a revolutionary one.

Actually it is different because the South was not a colony. And if that revolution had failed it would still be known as a 'revolutionary' war (or insurrection) that failed. A civil war is internal.

This is ALL off the topic here.

A civil war is really a battle for control of the country, so what we had wasn't actually a civil war since the South wanted to leave, not control the government.

They had every right to leave as they withdrew their consent to be governed by the Union government, which is the founding principle of our country. The South was correct when they called the civil war the war of northern aggression. It was a northern war for subjugation

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Oh shit --- this dood bought the whole Lost Cause textbook and swallowed whole. We did this to death in the Lost Cause threads but since you're in the right place why don't you tell the class about that obelisk at the foot of Canal Street that stood there for decades commemorating white supremacy and the White League? Why don't you post Mitch Landrieu's commentary on removing it and the other markers? Why don't you meet us in those Lost Cause threads and try to sell it there? I'll give you a link.

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

Had the South been strong enough to win the war, then the Constitution would no longer apply to them. They had every right to try and leave the union, and the union had every right to try and stop them.

It is no different than the colonies leaving the British Empire and becoming their own country. They had every right to do so and the British had every right to try and stop them. Had the British won it would have been known as a civil war vice a revolutionary one.

Actually it is different because the South was not a colony. And if that revolution had failed it would still be known as a 'revolutionary' war (or insurrection) that failed. A civil war is internal.

This is ALL off the topic here.

you have created a distinction without a difference

 

[kaz]

Kneeling is so dumb.

Rather than kneeling and pissing off all of your customers, hold signs up for the issue you are supporting.

And whining about knelling is just as dumb.

Instead of making an ‘issue’ out of a non-issue, ignore those protesting – without attention the protests will end.

You don't know that, you're just making it up.

You hate America, of course you like players disrespecting their country, the troops, and law enforcement. You're in favor of it

 

[Pogo]

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

Had the South been strong enough to win the war, then the Constitution would no longer apply to them. They had every right to try and leave the union, and the union had every right to try and stop them.

It is no different than the colonies leaving the British Empire and becoming their own country. They had every right to do so and the British had every right to try and stop them. Had the British won it would have been known as a civil war vice a revolutionary one.

Actually it is different because the South was not a colony. And if that revolution had failed it would still be known as a 'revolutionary' war (or insurrection) that failed. A civil war is internal.

This is ALL off the topic here.

you have created a distinction without a difference

A colony trying to break off, whether it succeeds in doing so or not, cannot be a "civil war" as long as it's a colony.

STILL off the topic. I gave Redfish links to a thread that's actually related and to his credit he went there. You might do that, or start another topic ON the Civil War directly --- but it still has nothing to do with fake-patriotism charades injected into a sporting event and its inevitable backlash.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Of course, that’s what conservatives do: they attempt to contrive non-issues into an ‘issue’ in a failed attempt to deflect from their own failed, wrongheaded policies.

Conservatives would rather have Americans arguing about ‘kneeling’ rather than focusing on Trump’s failed ‘administration.’

And propagating a ridiculous non-issue such as ‘kneeling’ is an ideal way for conservatives to attempt to divide Americans concerning race, and to exploit racial tensions to the political benefit of Republicans.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Oh shit --- this dood bought the whole Lost Cause textbook and swallowed whole. We did this to death in the Lost Cause threads but since you're in the right place why don't you tell the class about that obelisk at the foot of Canal Street that stood there for decades commemorating white supremacy and the White League? Why don't you post Mitch Landrieu's commentary on removing it and the other markers? Why don't you meet us in those Lost Cause threads and try to sell it there? I'll give you a link.

Gator is the one supporting the legal right to secession. Take it up with him. He brought it up.

Yes, I do. I support the legal right to secession and I support the legal right for the country being left to say "hell no" and then I support the legal right for them to fight it out.

There is no ‘right’ to secession, ‘legal’ or otherwise. Secession is un-Constitutional (Texas v. White (1869)).

Americans cannot have their citizenship taken from them against their will absent wrongdoing.

Had the South been strong enough to win the war, then the Constitution would no longer apply to them. They had every right to try and leave the union, and the union had every right to try and stop them.

It is no different than the colonies leaving the British Empire and becoming their own country. They had every right to do so and the British had every right to try and stop them. Had the British won it would have been known as a civil war vice a revolutionary one.

Actually it is different because the South was not a colony. And if that revolution had failed it would still be known as a 'revolutionary' war (or insurrection) that failed. A civil war is internal.

This is ALL off the topic here.

Given the failure of the thread premise, going off-topic seems warranted.

 

[Reasonable]

You’re a full fledged idiot. The 1st was created so all Americans could have free speech something your president is working daily to curtail and then do away with. That you turn a blind eye to this shows you’re part of the problem not the solution.

I always find it amusing when a poster who cannot grasp concepts calls somebody ELSE the idiot.

This idiot is trying to tell us the 1st really isn’t about free speech.
A deplorable?
You betcha!

 

[Reasonable]

You hate America, of course you like players disrespecting their country, the troops, and law enforcement. You're in favor of it

You keep lying about what the players are doing because you have to back this racist prez who also doesn’t understand the players intent.