Newsom threatens kidnapping charges after Florida dumps migrants at church

[marvin martian]

No it doesn't. The government knows they are dead.

How?

 

[pknopp]

How?

The SSDI. Social Security Death Index.

 

[marvin martian]

The SSDI. Social Security Death Index.

Useless, since it relies on deaths reported to the administration, which is only a fraction of actual deaths. Nice try, though.

 

[pknopp]

Useless, since it relies on deaths reported to the administration, which is only a fraction of actual deaths. Nice try, though.

You can make stuff up all day as an excuse if you wish.

 

[marvin martian]

You can make stuff up all day as an excuse if you wish.

LOL

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The Social Security Death Index (SSDI) contains information about millions of deceased people with U.S. social security numbers whose deaths were reported to the Social Security Administration (SSA). Deaths not reported to the SSA are not recorded in the Social Security Death Index.

 

[pknopp]

LOL

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The Social Security Death Index (SSDI) contains information about millions of deceased people with U.S. social security numbers whose deaths were reported to the Social Security Administration (SSA). Deaths not reported to the SSA are not recorded in the Social Security Death Index.

Funeral homes notify the S.S.

Now maybe there is a very small number "lost at sea" or die frozen on Mt Everest but the S.S. excuse is just that, an excuse.

 

[marvin martian]

Funeral homes notify the S.S.

Link?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

3. Dead peoples' SS numbers. It happens all the time

The migrants in question don't have a social security number yet. Wrong thread.

 

[Flash]

Somebody on TV this afternoon said that Newsome is the dumbest asshole in Politics today.

They were right.

 

[marvin martian]

How often does it happen?

Every time a death goes unreported to the SS administration, that SS number can continue to be used. Huge amounts of welfare and financial fraud is committed this way.

Identity Theft and the Deceased

Identity theft can victimize the dead. Identity thieves can strike even after death. An identity thief's use of a deceased person's Social Security number may create problems for family members. This type of identity theft also victimizes merchants, banks, and other businesses that provide goods...

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[pknopp]

Every time a death goes unreported to the SS administration, that SS number can continue to be used. Huge amounts of welfare and financial fraud is committed this way.

Identity Theft and the Deceased

Identity theft can victimize the dead. Identity thieves can strike even after death. An identity thief's use of a deceased person's Social Security number may create problems for family members. This type of identity theft also victimizes merchants, banks, and other businesses that provide goods...

oag.ca.gov

One could use it once for identity fraud. It's not being used in that case to pay someone.

 

[marvin martian]

One could use it once for identity fraud. It's not being used in that case to pay someone.

People like you who pretend this isn't happening are the reason thieves keep getting away with it.

 

[pknopp]

People like you who pretend this isn't happening are the reason thieves keep getting away with it.

Quit excusing employers hiring illegals.

 

[marvin martian]

Quit excusing employers hiring illegals.

That's also a problem, but those illegals steal SS numbers of dead people and perpetuate the fraud.

 

[DudleySmith]

So your argument is that you and I have no proof of anything? Then why do you claim they’re fake? Are you guessing?

They're proven fakes, just like your attempts to pretend they aren't. Of course you Democrats have zero concerns for genuine refugees who have to wait years because of your pet cretins and criminal illegals have overwhelmed the system with fake claims. All you want is more illegal voters.

 

[BluesLegend]

Did the mayor lie to them as to where they were going?

The illegals Desantis flew to California all signed consent forms, tissue?

Besides why aren't POS asshole Dems welcoming the illegals with open arms? After all they offer them sanctuary and their open border policies are why they are here. Or is that just an act for the camera's?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

The illegals Desantis flew to California all signed consent forms, tissue?

Besides why aren't POS asshole Dems welcoming the illegals with open arms? After all they offer them sanctuary and their open border policies are why they are here. Or is that just an act for the camera's?

What did the forms say?

 

[BluesLegend]

What did the forms say?

They said Dems welcome you to their sanctuary cities with open arms and government handouts.

 

[HaShev]

I'm hoping that a Federal judge rules that DeSantis took these actions as not an official function of his job as Governor, putting him personally in legal trouble.

Newsom threatens kidnapping charges after Florida dumps migrants at church​

Governor tweets ‘You small, pathetic man … Kidnapping charges?’, directed at DeSantis after migrants left outside Sacramento church
Newsom threatens DeSantis with kidnapping charges after migrants dumped twice in four days
Newsom threatens DeSantis with kidnapping charges after migrants dumped twice in four days
California’s Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, on Monday branded his rightwing Republican Florida counterpart, Ron DeSantis, a “small, pathetic man”, and appeared to threaten kidnapping charges for an episode in which a group of migrants was dumped at a Sacramento church.

Rob Bonta, California’s attorney general, said in a statement that 16 South Americans abandoned outside the Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento on Friday were “in possession of documentation purporting to be from the state of Florida”, and may have been duped into boarding charter flights via New Mexico after entering the US in Texas.


The episode has parallels to what critics called a similar “soulless” stunt orchestrated by DeSantis last year in which his administration abandoned several dozen mostly Venezuelan migrants in Martha’s Vineyard.

Newsom, in a tweet posted Monday lunchtime directed at DeSantis, said: “You small, pathetic man. This isn’t Martha’s Vineyard. Kidnapping charges?” and linked to a section of California’s penal code stating anybody who “abducts or takes by force or fraud” a person found within the state “is guilty of kidnapping”.

Bonta, meanwhile, also said Florida was guilty of “state-sanctioned kidnapping” if it was found to be behind the flights, which the documents reportedly show were operated by the Vertol Systems Co, the same contractor hired last year by Florida’s department of emergency management to move migrants from Texas to Massachusetts for $1.6m.

“While we continue to collect evidence, I want to say this very clearly: state-sanctioned kidnapping is not a public policy choice, it is immoral and disgusting,” Bonta said in the statement, adding that he was “evaluating” whether violations of civil or criminal law had taken place.

Lawyers for the migrants caught up in DeSantis’s stunt last September were on the ground in Sacramento on Monday, and say the circumstances are nearly identical, with the group having been promised accommodation, jobs and clothing that never materialized, and with no advance notice to social services.

“We’re trying to establish what exactly they were told when they boarded the flights,” said Oren Sellstrom, litigation director of Boston-based Lawyers for Civil Rights.

“There are a number of needs people have when they’re abandoned like this, food and shelter, but also legal assistance, and there needs to be immediate legal action to ensure their federal immigration proceedings are not compromised by this political stunt.

“This kind of conduct is reprehensible, morally repugnant and also illegal. To the extent the individuals flown to California had the same kind of fraud and misrepresentation visited upon them that we saw with our Martha’s Vineyard clients, we fully intend to hold Governor DeSantis and his co-conspirators accountable in a court of law.”

So he's saying Biden is a kidnapper trafficker in chief who sent migrants in the dark of night to FL and Tennessee and elsewhere?-oops! Checkmate!

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

They said Dems welcome you to their sanctuary cities with open arms

So he's saying Biden is a kidnapper trafficker in chief who sent migrants in the dark of night to FL and Tennessee and elsewhere?-oops! Checkmate!

Did Biden lie to them about where they were headed?

So he's saying Biden is a kidnapper trafficker in chief who sent migrants in the dark of night to FL and Tennessee and elsewhere?-oops! Checkmate!

moving immigrants between jurisdictions is squarely a federal issue, not a state issue.