New Website on the American Civil War

[Quantrill]

There's now a pretty big Lee/Jackson Day event in Lexington,VA. I hope to be able to attend some year in my retirement.

When 'rightwinger' keeps sticking his thumb up your ass, that is a sure sign your user picture of Jefferson Davis is a phony, a facade, a lie.

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[Quantrill]

That's your choice. I choose to disengage. Good day sir.

No, you made the choice when you presented the bullshit.

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[bdtex]

user picture of Jefferson Davis is a phony, a facade, a lie.

It's a real picture. Looking for a photo quality print of it suitable for framing.

 

[Quantrill]

It's a real picture. Looking for a photo quality print of it suitable for framing.

I know it's a real picture. Your use of it is phony, a lie, a facade.

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[Robert W]

Wow, is this going to be another website where half the links don't work and the others say absolutely crazy shit like Abe Lincoln was a space alien?

No Joe, it is a site laden with top notch research and books telling the full story.

 

[Robert W]

Not really. Lincoln held the country together when terrible people tried to tear it apart. We are all better off for it

Tell us Joe. What happened to Lincoln? Why do you of all posters now favor Democrats who Lincoln waged war against?

 

[Robert W]

No, Lincoln attacked the South which is why the South fired first. The South fired on the Star of the West sent by Buchannan to reinforce Sumpter with troops and ammunition. Which they tried to lie about saying they were sending only food. The South then found out that Lincoln had been lying to them and was sending several war ships with troops and munitions. Forcing them to fire on Fort Sumter. before the ships arrived. Lincoln started the war. It was what he wanted to do.

The South was definitely fighting for its way of life of which slavery was its economic life line. The North was not fighting to free the slaves. Lincoln could care less about the blacks. So don't pride yourself in thinking the North came down to free the slaves. The North came down to bring the South back into the Union.

I am very proud of the South and what they were fighting for.

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South Carolina told the Troops of the North to leave. Ft. Sumter was so protected, not a troop of the North was harmed. The Cannons of the state might as well have shot spit balls at Ft. Sumter. Mind you, Joe was once a Republican who took the word of criminals as I see them, and he took the same side. When he did change as the Confederacy. He flips like a fish just caught.

 

[bdtex]

Tell us Joe. What happened to Lincoln? Why do you of all posters now favor Democrats who Lincoln waged war against?

The ones who Lincoln waged war against are Republicans now.

 

[Robert W]

The ones who Lincoln waged war against are Republicans now.

That fiction has been debunked many times.

 

[Quantrill]

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Still waiting for you to back up the accusation you made in post #(153).

Incorrect.

Maybe stop getting your history from white supremacists websites.

As I asked in post #(170).

Provide the proof that my information comes from white supremacist websites. Which websites, and what have I said that indicates any white supremacy?

You are the dumbass in glasses.

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[RetiredGySgt]

No Joe, it is a site laden with top notch research and books telling the full story.

LOL you confederate apologists amaze me. The Confederacy was all about protecting slavery and you lot support that blindly,

 

[Quantrill]

LOL you confederate apologists amaze me. The Confederacy was all about protecting slavery and you lot support that blindly,

It's not about being an apologist. It's about getting the history straight. The U.S. lives under the lies created by that war. And when you bring those lies to the light, you have laid hands on the golden calf of U.S. history.

Yes, the South wanted to protect slavery, their economy relied on it. Only a few insane abolitionists wanted to help the negro. The rest of the North just wanted to destroy the South by freeing the slaves. Free labor as opposed to slave labor. And those good Yankees didn't want slavery because they didn't want the black man in their back yard.

Yet those Yankees now posture themselves as the holy righteous North who saw the evils of slavery and come down to free those poor slaves from those evil Southern slave holders. All built on lies.

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[ding]

Provide the proof that my information comes from white supremacist websites. Which websites, and what have I said that indicates any white supremacy?

You are the dumbass in glasses.

Quantrill

The proof is you haven't provided any links. Are you afraid to admit you believe whites are superior?

 

[Quantrill]

South Carolina told the Troops of the North to leave. Ft. Sumter was so protected, not a troop of the North was harmed. The Cannons of the state might as well have shot spit balls at Ft. Sumter.

Not so. The Confederate fire did considerable damage to Fort Sumter. They not only used cannon, but also mortars that lobbed shells from above into the Fort.

"It became apparent that the Confederate batteries had begun firing 'hot shot,' cannonballs heated in furnaces. One or two balls came to rest inside the fort, where one of them set a man's bed on fire.

"At about nine o'clock, a shell from a mortar burst through the roof of the officers quarters. Heavy smoke rose from within. The location of the fire was to exposed to allow men to effectively fight it, Foster realized. He alerted Anderson that if the fire continued to burn out of control, it could detonate the fort's cache of gunpowder, the thirty thousand pounds stored in barrels in Sumter's main magazine." (The Demon Of Unrest, Erik Larson, Crown Publishing Group, 2024, p. 440)

"...about nine a.m. a loud cheer rose from the direction of the beach....the sound was deafening. It goes on from hill to hill till it reaches the farthest end of the Island. Fort Sumter, they saw, was on fire." (Larson, p. 441)

"The Confederates fired at a faster rate, with the obvious intention of worsening the blaze. At this they succeeded....By eleven A.M. about one-fifth of the fort was on fire, by Captain Doubleday's estimate." (Larson p. 442)

"The scene at this time ws really terrific, Doubleday wrote. The roaring and crackling of the flames, the dense masses of fwhirling smoke, the burstin of the enemy's shells, and our own which were exploding in the burning rooms, the crashing of the shot, and the sound of masonry falling in every direction, made the fort a pandemonium." (Larson, p. 443)

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[RetiredGySgt]

Not so. The Confederate fire did considerable damage to Fort Sumter. They not only used cannon, but also mortars that lobbed shells from above into the Fort.

"It became apparent that the Confederate batteries had begun firing 'hot shot,' cannonballs heated in furnaces. One or two balls came to rest inside the fort, where one of them set a man's bed on fire.

"At about nine o'clock, a shell from a mortar burst through the roof of the officers quarters. Heavy smoke rose from within. The location of the fire was to exposed to allow men to effectively fight it, Foster realized. He alerted Anderson that if the fire continued to burn out of control, it could detonate the fort's cache of gunpowder, the thirty thousand pounds stored in barrels in Sumter's main magazine." (The Demon Of Unrest, Erik Larson, Crown Publishing Group, 2024, p. 440)

"...about nine a.m. a loud cheer rose from the direction of the beach....the sound was deafening. It goes on from hill to hill till it reaches the farthest end of the Island. Fort Sumter, they saw, was on fire." (Larson, p. 441)

"The Confederates fired at a faster rate, with the obvious intention of worsening the blaze. At this they succeeded....By eleven A.M. about one-fifth of the fort was on fire, by Captain Doubleday's estimate." (Larson p. 442)

"The scene at this time ws really terrific, Doubleday wrote. The roaring and crackling of the flames, the dense masses of fwhirling smoke, the burstin of the enemy's shells, and our own which were exploding in the burning rooms, the crashing of the shot, and the sound of masonry falling in every direction, made the fort a pandemonium." (Larson, p. 443)

Quantrill

ya the South NOT Lincoln started the war.

 

[Robert W]

Not so. The Confederate fire did considerable damage to Fort Sumter. They not only used cannon, but also mortars that lobbed shells from above into the Fort.

"It became apparent that the Confederate batteries had begun firing 'hot shot,' cannonballs heated in furnaces. One or two balls came to rest inside the fort, where one of them set a man's bed on fire.

"At about nine o'clock, a shell from a mortar burst through the roof of the officers quarters. Heavy smoke rose from within. The location of the fire was to exposed to allow men to effectively fight it, Foster realized. He alerted Anderson that if the fire continued to burn out of control, it could detonate the fort's cache of gunpowder, the thirty thousand pounds stored in barrels in Sumter's main magazine." (The Demon Of Unrest, Erik Larson, Crown Publishing Group, 2024, p. 440)

"...about nine a.m. a loud cheer rose from the direction of the beach....the sound was deafening. It goes on from hill to hill till it reaches the farthest end of the Island. Fort Sumter, they saw, was on fire." (Larson, p. 441)

"The Confederates fired at a faster rate, with the obvious intention of worsening the blaze. At this they succeeded....By eleven A.M. about one-fifth of the fort was on fire, by Captain Doubleday's estimate." (Larson p. 442)

"The scene at this time ws really terrific, Doubleday wrote. The roaring and crackling of the flames, the dense masses of fwhirling smoke, the burstin of the enemy's shells, and our own which were exploding in the burning rooms, the crashing of the shot, and the sound of masonry falling in every direction, made the fort a pandemonium." (Larson, p. 443)

Quantrill

I did not say the fort had no damage. I said no troop inside the fort was harmed at all. The remedy for the Noth was to abandon the fort and not have to endure any fire at all.

 

[Quantrill]

The proof is you haven't provided any links. Are you afraid to admit you believe whites are superior?

That just proves you're full of shit. You're the one who accused me of getting my information from white supremacist web sites. So I asked 'what websites' and 'what have I said to indicate any white supremacy?'

How can I provide a link to a website if I didn't use a website? It's your accusation, not mine. So prove I'm getting my information from white supremacist websites.

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[ding]

That just proves you're full of shit. You're the one who accused me of getting my information from white supremacist web sites. So I asked 'what websites' and what have I said to indicate any white supremacy?'

How can I provide a link to a website if I didn't use a website? It's your accusation, not mine. So prove I'm getting my information from white supremacist websites.

Quantrill

Are whites superior to blacks?

 

[Robert W]

ya the South NOT Lincoln started the war.

Firing at a very stable building is not war. When Abe invaded VA at Manassas area, that was genuine war. And he never got permission to start his war.

 

[ding]

Not so. The Confederate fire did considerable damage to Fort Sumter. They not only used cannon, but also mortars that lobbed shells from above into the Fort.

"It became apparent that the Confederate batteries had begun firing 'hot shot,' cannonballs heated in furnaces. One or two balls came to rest inside the fort, where one of them set a man's bed on fire.

"At about nine o'clock, a shell from a mortar burst through the roof of the officers quarters. Heavy smoke rose from within. The location of the fire was to exposed to allow men to effectively fight it, Foster realized. He alerted Anderson that if the fire continued to burn out of control, it could detonate the fort's cache of gunpowder, the thirty thousand pounds stored in barrels in Sumter's main magazine." (The Demon Of Unrest, Erik Larson, Crown Publishing Group, 2024, p. 440)

"...about nine a.m. a loud cheer rose from the direction of the beach....the sound was deafening. It goes on from hill to hill till it reaches the farthest end of the Island. Fort Sumter, they saw, was on fire." (Larson, p. 441)

"The Confederates fired at a faster rate, with the obvious intention of worsening the blaze. At this they succeeded....By eleven A.M. about one-fifth of the fort was on fire, by Captain Doubleday's estimate." (Larson p. 442)

"The scene at this time ws really terrific, Doubleday wrote. The roaring and crackling of the flames, the dense masses of fwhirling smoke, the burstin of the enemy's shells, and our own which were exploding in the burning rooms, the crashing of the shot, and the sound of masonry falling in every direction, made the fort a pandemonium." (Larson, p. 443)

Quantrill

No one died from cannon fire.