New Poll Shocker!! Conservative more open minded on the environment!!!!

[skookerasbil]

And how hard am I laughing?




October 23, 2013 4:00 AM
Liberal Denial on Climate Change and Energy
A new poll reveals conservatives are the open-minded ones.



The late science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick once observed, “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” It’s a statement that many liberals need to take to heart on energy and climate issues.

According to the Hoover Institution’s recently completed Golden State Poll, conducted in partnership with the nationally respected polling firm YouGov, many Democrats and liberals are in denial when it comes to reality on energy and climate policy, endorsing both science and political fiction.



Liberal Denial on Climate Change and Energy | National Review Online

 

[skookerasbil]

Im still laughing.........this is priceless shit!!!

 

[flacaltenn]

Badgers vs Lemmings.

The numbers on fracking explain why Cali is going down the tubes.
They're gonna be playing 49'ers games daytime only soon..

 

[Mr. H.]

The Democratic party’s electoral majority is currently sustained by low-information voters and people who are unlikely to be persuaded by data that contradicts their own political narrative.

^ This.

 

[JakeStarkey]

On raping the environment, you bet the corporationists are all for it.

Drill, baby, Drill!

 

[koshergrl]

Shut up, fake.

meanwhile tea partiers are also better versed in (real) science.

Mebbe that has something to do with it.

 

[skookerasbil]

Shut up, fake.

meanwhile tea partiers are also better versed in (real) science.

Mebbe that has something to do with it.

LOL.....indeed......that was posted up a couple of weeks ago. The winning keeps coming in tidal waves!!

 

[Mr. H.]

On raping the environment, you bet the corporationists are all for it.

Drill, baby, Drill!

The American Petroleum Institute has published a report quantifying how much the U.S. oil & gas industry has spent recently to prevent, control, abate, or eliminate environmental pollution.

Oil & Gas Industry?s 2011 Environmental Spending Pegged at $12.9 Billion -- Environmental Protection

 

[mamooth]

The previous poll showed conservatives were inferior at science compared to liberals. As skook demonstrates daily.

Meanwhile, this recent 'tard poll declared someone was only "open minded" if they repeated the big lies of the denialists. If someone actually understood the science, the poll defined them as "not open minded". Kind of embarrassing for conservatives, how blatantly dishonest the poll was.

Naturally, all the usual suspects here fell hard for it. I doubt any of them even read the article. They heard something that confirmed their cult beliefs, hence they instantly went full lemming and declared it had to be true.

There are your low-information voters, and then there are the denialists, below that level. Low-information voters merely lack knowledge, while denialists possess anti-knowledge -- if they say it, it's likely the opposite is true.

 

[daveman]

The previous poll showed conservatives were inferior at science compared to liberals. As skook demonstrates daily.

Meanwhile, this recent 'tard poll declared someone was only "open minded" if they repeated the big lies of the denialists. If someone actually understood the science, the poll defined them as "not open minded". Kind of embarrassing for conservatives, how blatantly dishonest the poll was.

Naturally, all the usual suspects here fell hard for it. I doubt any of them even read the article. They heard something that confirmed their cult beliefs, hence they instantly went full lemming and declared it had to be true.

There are your low-information voters, and then there are the denialists, below that level. Low-information voters merely lack knowledge, while denialists possess anti-knowledge -- if they say it, it's likely the opposite is true.

Speaking of low-information reality-deniers, cultists, and lemmings...

 

[JakeStarkey]

On raping the environment, you bet the corporationists are all for it.

Drill, baby, Drill!

The American Petroleum Institute has published a report quantifying how much the U.S. oil & gas industry has spent recently to prevent, control, abate, or eliminate environmental pollution.

Oil & Gas Industry?s 2011 Environmental Spending Pegged at $12.9 Billion -- Environmental Protection

May 1/3d of what it should

 

[skookerasbil]

The previous poll showed conservatives were inferior at science compared to liberals. As skook demonstrates daily.

Meanwhile, this recent 'tard poll declared someone was only "open minded" if they repeated the big lies of the denialists. If someone actually understood the science, the poll defined them as "not open minded". Kind of embarrassing for conservatives, how blatantly dishonest the poll was.

Naturally, all the usual suspects here fell hard for it. I doubt any of them even read the article. They heard something that confirmed their cult beliefs, hence they instantly went full lemming and declared it had to be true.

There are your low-information voters, and then there are the denialists, below that level. Low-information voters merely lack knowledge, while denialists possess anti-knowledge -- if they say it, it's likely the opposite is true.

Ahhh......but tea partiers pwn the left in science which is really what the article was all about sweetie!!



= more k00k losing.

 

[Mr. H.]

On raping the environment, you bet the corporationists are all for it.

Drill, baby, Drill!

The American Petroleum Institute has published a report quantifying how much the U.S. oil & gas industry has spent recently to prevent, control, abate, or eliminate environmental pollution.

Oil & Gas Industry?s 2011 Environmental Spending Pegged at $12.9 Billion -- Environmental Protection

May 1/3d of what it should

LOL. Did you just pull that out of your butt? That's a bit whack.

Meanwhile, down on the farm... agriculture runoff is not considered pollution:

W.Va. chicken farmer wins EPA lawsuit over runoff - Yahoo Finance

 

[JakeStarkey]

The American Petroleum Institute has published a report quantifying how much the U.S. oil & gas industry has spent recently to prevent, control, abate, or eliminate environmental pollution.

Oil & Gas Industry?s 2011 Environmental Spending Pegged at $12.9 Billion -- Environmental Protection

May 1/3d of what it should

LOL. Did you just pull that out of your butt? That's a bit whack.

Meanwhile, down on the farm... agriculture runoff is not considered pollution:

W.Va. chicken farmer wins EPA lawsuit over runoff - Yahoo Finance

The same way you think $12billion is enough without evidence.

Considering the smog and haze in every major city in America, yeh, it is not enough.

 

[Mr. H.]

May 1/3d of what it should

LOL. Did you just pull that out of your butt? That's a bit whack.

Meanwhile, down on the farm... agriculture runoff is not considered pollution:

W.Va. chicken farmer wins EPA lawsuit over runoff - Yahoo Finance

The same way you think $12billion is enough without evidence.

Considering the smog and haze in every major city in America, yeh, it is not enough.

Isn't that a bit like saying the billions we spend on "the war on drugs" isn't enough because there are so many drugs prevalent in America?

Oh wait- that's government spending, not private industry spending.

 

[Abraham3]

From the article:

In our poll of 1,000 Californians, Democrats and liberals were more likely to give incorrect, highly unlikely, or intensely ideological responses to a set of basic questions about energy and environmental policy than were independents, conservatives, and Republicans.

Respondents were concerned about climate change — and that concern crossed party and ideological lines. But not a single liberal in our survey dismissed climate change as a “not at all serious” problem,” and a scant 4 percent were open to the idea that global climate change might be a “not very serious” problem.

When half of our sample was asked about climate change’s effects only in California, just 5 percent of liberals felt that it was not very serious and 3 percent felt it was not at all serious. Both are essentially zero within the poll’s margin of error. Given the enormous uncertainties that exist around both climate science and climate policy, this is more correctly characterized as a religious view of climate change than an empirical one.

Conservatives were far more open-minded about climate change, with 39 percent considering it a somewhat or very serious problem and only 31 percent saying it was not at all serious. This view was far closer to the view of political independents, who presumably have no partisan axe to grind in the climate wars. Fifty-one percent of them thought climate change was a very or somewhat serious problem, while 41 percent felt that it was not very or not at all serious. One can draw two plausible conclusions from this: Either liberals alone have the intellectual acuity to definitively determine the magnitude of the problem presented by climate change, or, alternatively, unlike conservatives and independents, liberals are engaged in climate groupthink from which no dissent is brooked.

This poll didn't show liberals to be close-minded. It showed conservatives to be scientifically ignorant.

 

[daveman]

From the article:

In our poll of 1,000 Californians, Democrats and liberals were more likely to give incorrect, highly unlikely, or intensely ideological responses to a set of basic questions about energy and environmental policy than were independents, conservatives, and Republicans.

Respondents were concerned about climate change — and that concern crossed party and ideological lines. But not a single liberal in our survey dismissed climate change as a “not at all serious” problem,” and a scant 4 percent were open to the idea that global climate change might be a “not very serious” problem.

When half of our sample was asked about climate change’s effects only in California, just 5 percent of liberals felt that it was not very serious and 3 percent felt it was not at all serious. Both are essentially zero within the poll’s margin of error. Given the enormous uncertainties that exist around both climate science and climate policy, this is more correctly characterized as a religious view of climate change than an empirical one.

Conservatives were far more open-minded about climate change, with 39 percent considering it a somewhat or very serious problem and only 31 percent saying it was not at all serious. This view was far closer to the view of political independents, who presumably have no partisan axe to grind in the climate wars. Fifty-one percent of them thought climate change was a very or somewhat serious problem, while 41 percent felt that it was not very or not at all serious. One can draw two plausible conclusions from this: Either liberals alone have the intellectual acuity to definitively determine the magnitude of the problem presented by climate change, or, alternatively, unlike conservatives and independents, liberals are engaged in climate groupthink from which no dissent is brooked.

This poll didn't show liberals to be close-minded. It showed conservatives to be scientifically ignorant.

You just proved the poll correct, actually.

 

[skookerasbil]

LMAO.....behold the level of angst being displayed by the k00ks on this....some hysterical shit!!

 

[skookerasbil]

bump......if only for the classicness of it.

 

[mamooth]

I plan to commission a poll.

The question will be "Does gravity exist?".

If you answer "absolutely", it will prove you're close-minded about science. Open-minded people will understand the possibility that gravity may be an illusion.