New Japanese sub design

[westwall]

So, tell me what a sonar convergence zone looks like obtained by a towed array sonar?

What depth of water? Salinity? Length of towed array?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What depth of water? Salinity? Length of towed array?

Can't answer the question with the given information? None of that matters. The shape is all the same. ******* amateur!

 

[westwall]

Can't answer the question with the given information? None of that matters. The shape is all the same. ******* amateur!

No it isn't you dipshit. The zones can vary by more than twenty miles, if you are in a closed channel that changes things, dumbass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No it isn't you dipshit. The zones can vary by more than twenty miles, if you are in a closed channel that changes things, dumbass.

You cannot use a towed array in a channel dumbass! ******* amateur!

I asked you what shape it is. You don't ******* know!

You are dismissed. I'm done proving you are undereducated moron.

 

[westwall]

You cannot use a towed array in a channel dumbass! ******* amateur!

I asked you what shape it is. You don't ******* know!

You are dismissed. I'm done proving you are undereducated moron.

Oh? You can't use a towed array in the Santa Barbara Channel?

Now I agree the Bosporous is out of the question, but there's LOTS of channels that are quite navigable and a towed array is no biggie.

Clearly geography isn't your strong suit either.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh? You can't use a towed array in the Santa Barbara Channel?

Now I agree the Bosporous is out of the question, but there's LOTS of channels that are quite navigable and a towed array is no biggie.

Clearly geography isn't your strong suit either.

I'll educate you just one more time. Use of a towed array sonar allows the ship or submarine to use the natural bending of sound waves towards the surface over distances in deep water. The detection is possible because of the sonar convergence zone (CZ) forms a ring when viewed from above and sounds emanating from a submarine in the annulus will be picked up at long range by the sonar. It does not work in shallow water or near a coastline.

You may STFU now.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I'll educate you just one more time. Use of a towed array sonar allows the ship or submarine to use the natural bending of sound waves towards the surface over distances in deep water. The detection is possible because of the sonar convergence zone (CZ) forms a ring when viewed from above and sounds emanating from a submarine in the annulus will be picked up at long range by the sonar. It does not work in shallow water or near a coastline.

You may STFU now.

Towed arrays also can be placed below temperature gradients that otherwise deflect sound waves.

 

[westwall]

I'll educate you just one more time. Use of a towed array sonar allows the ship or submarine to use the natural bending of sound waves towards the surface over distances in deep water. The detection is possible because of the sonar convergence zone (CZ) forms a ring when viewed from above and sounds emanating from a submarine in the annulus will be picked up at long range by the sonar. It does not work in shallow water or near a coastline.

You may STFU now.

Yeah, I know all of that, silly boy. But you are ignoring they are narrow bands, useful for bearing only, but not for range. I can't remember the exact particulars but the first ring is around 30 miles out, then 60 or so. It's a long time since my friend and I talked about it. He was the XO on an LA class at the time.

I just find it amusing that you think the captain of a sub isn't going to be an expert in ASW technique when one considers his job is to prevent his boat from being sunk.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yeah, I know all of that, silly boy. But you are ignoring they are narrow bands, useful for bearing only, but not for range. I can't remember the exact particulars but the first ring is around 30 miles out, then 60 or so. It's a long time since my friend and I talked about it. He was the XO on an LA class at the time.

I just find it amusing that you think the captain of a sub isn't going to be an expert in ASW technique when one considers his job is to prevent his boat from being sunk.

I said he wasn't as good at ASW as a surface platform. As I said, his mission is to hide with pride. He might know Russian ASW capabilities, but has no need to really know ours as much.

BTW, I told you you are dismissed.

 

[Zavulon]

I said he wasn't as good at ASW as a surface platform. As I said, his mission is to hide with pride.

When you say this, I always recon Berezin's "War 2030: The Fire in Methropoly", and special purpose submarine "Blue Whale" (ex SSBN "Wyoming") with almost totally homosexual crew.

He might know Russian ASW capabilities, but has no need to really know ours as much.

I very doubt it. He is an American, after all, and Americans are usually incurious, ignorant and poorly educated creatures. I think he hardly could say difference between neutron and neutrino, say nothing about actual reading Russian sources.

 

[westwall]

I said he wasn't as good at ASW as a surface platform. As I said, his mission is to hide with pride. He might know Russian ASW capabilities, but has no need to really know ours as much.

BTW, I told you you are dismissed.

You couldn't dismiss a flea. Sub captains are experts at ASW warfare because that's how they stay alive you retard.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You couldn't dismiss a flea. Sub captains are experts at ASW warfare because that's how they stay alive you retard.

Boomers don't have towed arrays, dumbass!

That's it. I am glad you have a friend who is a sub captain. You apparently need all the friends you can get because you are an asshole!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Boomers don't have towed arrays, dumbass!

That's it. I am glad you have a friend who is a sub captain. You apparently need all the friends you can get because you are an asshole!

You might want to cross check Ohio Class submarines and AN/BQR-15 Towed Array Sonar.

WW

 

[Zavulon]

Boomers don't have towed arrays, dumbass!

Really? Not that I have first-hand experience, but there is different information in books:

 

[westwall]

Boomers don't have towed arrays, dumbass!

That's it. I am glad you have a friend who is a sub captain. You apparently need all the friends you can get because you are an asshole!

Ummmm, yeah they do you rank amateur. The Ohio Class used the AN/BQR-15 when they were first delivered, but they were upgraded to the thin line TB-23/29.

DURRRRRR

Let me guess, your ASW class was out of a Cracker Jack box!

 

[JWBooth]

Boomers don't have towed arrays, dumbass!

That's it. I am glad you have a friend who is a sub captain. You apparently need all the friends you can get because you are an asshole!

I don’t know when your claimed service was but when I went through sonar A school at the Fleet Antisubmarine Warfare Training Center Pacific, in San Diego (across Harbor Drive from NTC San Diego) in ‘77, the bubbleheads going to the boomers were being trained in towed array systems.
I was an AN/SQS-53 operator headed to the old Spruance cans, one of my room mates was being trained on those towed arrays and daily bragged on their superiority.