As new data emerges from new findings and better technology which allows us to attain more accurate information over decades, you'd have to be an idiot, in any situation, to not adjust your opinions and views in light of new evidence. To think someone is a sheep because simply, from the outside, they appear to be going 'to and fro' is a very ignorant of looking at things, because you are not appreciating the evolution of information that spawns such shifts in views, in my opinion anyway. To stick to your guns simply to stick to your guns, even as new information suggests that your position might be outdated, is ignorant and stubborn.
What new evidence do you speak of praytell? The evidence that the AGW alarmists have been falsifying their data for almost 5 years and manipulating it before that? That's new info. Or how about the info that the climate fraud seems to be run by big oil and companies like Goldman Sachs who stand to make trillions off of a theory that to date has no empirical data to back it up? Or the well known fact that not a single computer model, of which the alarmists are so proud, can recreate the weather that occured 5 days ago?
Please, by all means let us know what new information is out there that will actually be relevent to the discussion.
I was speaking more in terms of generalities, that one must remain flexible in light of new information, experiences, etc... That, remaining steadfast seems to be considered virtuous in politics, even when it is not prudent. Since climate change has become political, I would consider what I said relevant to this discussion.
I just have one question: what motive would people have to be alarmist about climate change? Why would they feign this? It would seem that oil companies and many corporations don't want change because their success is built on a stable foundation, one built on an oil-fueled economy. To change the fundamental energy structure of our economy would restructure everything. That kind of systemic change is why no one wants to confront global warming, and people warp their thinking to convince themselver it is not true so they can continue to make money. The evidence is clear. global warming is happening, yet it is too much of a threat to businesses and those who hold stake in the infrastructure of the current economy. Greed will warp minds.
What motive, you new here, how about money and power.
Oil Companies provide the basic raw materials that the Green Energy industry needs to build Green Energy, from the basic industries, to smelting the metals, to mining for silica, to providing the energy to melt sand into glass at over 2500 degrees. Its a win-win for Oil Companies, not only that Green Energy is always built with 100 % backup as in for every watt of electricity they claim they will produce a fossil plant is built to provide the energy.
I guess you missed the Solar goes diesel thread which speaks of the corruption, providing cheap electricity from diesel and charging at the higher rate of Green Energy.
So in California we are paying more for water, electricity, and gasoline, as well as food due to the cost of energy, GE gets to build thousands of electrical generators that sit behind thousands of idle turbines. GE is paid, the banks financed the project, all guaranteed a profit by government laws and mandates.
What fundamental change do you speak of in energy structure. Do you mean we know must adopt to dirty intermittent power sources located at extreme distances from the market with the government making rules so this power can be bought and sold by speculators on Wall Street further making us indentured to banks and investment firms.
There is no evidence of global warming, only a multi-billion dollar theory, more money spent on one theory than any other theory in history.
Yes, the only thing settled is it will take more than logic to change the course. California and Oregon are bankrupt, green energy is the cause, housing is the scapegoat.
How about if I just come to your house and do your yard work, fix your car, I am broke and would like a little money to feed my kids, so if you would be so kind to allow me just to work for maybe I could have a little electricity to keep the milk cold, ice cubes is a luxury I can no longer afford the electricity to freeze.
So let me know how exactly I can work for you so you can be rich. You have bled me dry.