That damn Global Warming just wont go away....

[EMH]

Leftists haven't a clue how they are being played.

The first President to make CO2 FRAUD above the law was W.

Then homO....

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[Mac-7]

You do know there is a drought in much of the US?

Your ignorance is astounding.

I bet you confuse weather with climate.

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When disaster hits I believe we should hold people like you and their whole extended families in prisons as criminals.

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Well gee whiz

A drought you say?

Meaning no rain?

That’s unprecedented in human history

 

[EMH]

You do know there is a drought in much of the US?

Your ignorance is astounding.

I bet you confuse weather with climate.

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When disaster hits I believe we should hold people like you and their whole extended families in prisons as criminals.

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A warmer Earth is a wetter Earth. Hence if there are droughts, Earth is NOT warming....






"Fossils from the London Clay reveal a time when the planet was warmer, wetter"




Thanks for validating the truth that EARTH IS NOT WARMING AT ALL....

 

[Captain Caveman]

MSN Err, i mean global cooling, no, climate change. That pesky snow just keeps interfering with the rise in temperature of the planet as the climatologists will leave out once again, these record breaking events out of the temperature totals.

The Climate Alarmists will be coming out of hibernation.

 

[wist43]

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Yes, Jimmy Carter was a devout Christian, specifically a Baptist and a "born-again" Evangelical, whose faith profoundly influenced his life, presidency, and post-presidential volunteer work. He frequently taught Sunday school, read the Bible daily, and emphasized following the teachings of Jesus through service, such as his work with Habitat for Humanity

No, that's all image and legacy building.

He had the Establishment media and Globalists covering for him, just as Clinton, both Bush's, and Obama do.

Protecting the image and legacy is essential to covering the crimes of the Establishment.

Carter carried water for David Rockefeller with Zbigniew Brzezinski acting as his handler.

Carter and Brzezinski were both Founding members of the Trilateral Commission and for most of Carter's Presidency his Cabinet was dominated by Commission members.

Great progress was made during the Carter years in destabilizing American sovereignty while promoting globalization aimed at giving the Financial Elites centralized political and economic control over all nations.

The damage done to our American society during the Carter years is incalculable.

He was more than just a bad President, he was a traitor.

 

[Old Rocks]

I'll take who was a dumbass spineless democrat who allowed Radical Islam to come into power for $2000, Alex.

And who is a dumbass MAGAt that does not know history, not even that which occurred in his lifetime?

 

[Old Rocks]

The Climate Alarmists will be coming out of hibernation.

When Dr. Hansen predicted that the Northwest Passage would open before 2100, even other scientists called him alarmist. It opened for the first time in 2007. In 2016, a 1000 passenger luxury cruise ship transited the Passage. Seems that the Alarmists chief sin is not being alarmist enough. In 2021, in a heat wave that saw 121 degrees in a little Canadian town along the Fraser river, over 700 people died from that heat wave in British Colombia. Every decade now we seem to be getting at least one major El Nino, the ten warmest years have all been in the last decade;

The ten warmest years on record, according to global temperature data, are all from the last decade, with 2024 being the warmest year recorded.

List​

1. 2024 - Warmest year on record, with temperatures significantly above pre-industrial levels.
2. 2023 - Previously held the record for the warmest year before 2024.
3. 2022 - Continued the trend of rising global temperatures.
4. 2021 - Marked as one of the hottest years, influenced by climate change factors.
5. 2020 - Notable for extreme weather events and high temperatures despite pandemic lockdowns.
6. 2019 - Recorded high temperatures, contributing to the ongoing warming trend.
7. 2018 - Another year of significant temperature increases.
8. 2017 - Continued the pattern of rising global temperatures.
9. 2016 - Previously the warmest year, influenced by a strong El Niño event.
10. 2015 - Marked the beginning of a series of record-breaking warm years.

Context​

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and NASA have confirmed that 2024 is the warmest year on record, with the past ten years being the hottest decade ever recorded. This unprecedented streak of high temperatures is attributed to human-induced climate change, primarily due to greenhouse gas emissions. The implications of these rising temperatures include increased frequency of extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and significant impacts on ecosystems and human health.

NASA+1
This data underscores the urgent need for global climate action to mitigate the effects of climate change and limit future temperature increases.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, that's all image and legacy building.

He had the Establishment media and Globalists covering for him, just as Clinton, both Bush's, and Obama do.

Protecting the image and legacy is essential to covering the crimes of the Establishment.

Carter carried water for David Rockefeller with Zbigniew Brzezinski acting as his handler.

Carter and Brzezinski were both Founding members of the Trilateral Commission and for most of Carter's Presidency his Cabinet was dominated by Commission members.

Great progress was made during the Carter years in destabilizing American sovereignty while promoting globalization aimed at giving the Financial Elites centralized political and economic control over all nations.

The damage done to our American society during the Carter years is incalculable.

He was more than just a bad President, he was a traitor.

LOL!!!!!! And you think that the Nazi version of Christian is correct, right? LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

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Yes, Jimmy Carter was a devout Christian, specifically a Baptist and a "born-again" Evangelical, whose faith profoundly influenced his life, presidency, and post-presidential volunteer work. He frequently taught Sunday school, read the Bible daily, and emphasized following the teachings of Jesus through service, such as his work with Habitat for Humanity



And at the time, the vast majority of self proclaimed sub humans were Democrats, LBJ Democrats, 100% for big government. That's why as "Republicans" now they don't care about government spending, debt, deficit, anything that involves numbers, since they don't understand basic math...

https://www.cato.org/commentary/huckabee-biggest-big-government-conservative

"Calling himself “a different kind of Republican,” Huckabee

He says it is “a biblical duty” to pass more regulation to fight global warming.

Huckabee is, incidentally, the only Republican candidate for president who opposes school choice

Because he believes that “art and music are as important as math and science”




because when a human understand basic math, the human ceases to believe the bull in the biBULL.

Interesting, a facet of your character that I have not seen before. Yes, art and music are very important for the survival of a culture in the long run. But math and science are absolutely essential for the survival of a culture in the short run.

 

[toobfreak]

I bet you confuse weather with climate.

Weather and climate are really the same things just measured over different periods of time. Weather is short-term atmospheric patterns of days and weeks, while climate is merely the same atmospheric patterns measured over years, decades and centuries.

 

[toobfreak]

Yes, art and music are very important for the survival of a culture in the long run. But math and science are absolutely essential for the survival of a culture in the short run.

You probably have even that backwards. If anything, math and science serve man's survival over the long haul by improving man's chances and standards of living, while art and music serve man over the short haul by placating man in his daily life and giving us a creative outlet.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The UK is going through below average temperatures, it's not following the global warming rhetoric.

 

[Samofvt]

When Dr. Hansen predicted that the Northwest Passage would open before 2100, even other scientists called him alarmist. It opened for the first time in 2007. In 2016, a 1000 passenger luxury cruise ship transited the Passage. Seems that the Alarmists chief sin is not being alarmist enough. In 2021, in a heat wave that saw 121 degrees in a little Canadian town along the Fraser river, over 700 people died from that heat wave in British Colombia. Every decade now we seem to be getting at least one major El Nino, the ten warmest years have all been in the last decade;

The ten warmest years on record, according to global temperature data, are all from the last decade, with 2024 being the warmest year recorded.

List​

1. 2024 - Warmest year on record, with temperatures significantly above pre-industrial levels.
2. 2023 - Previously held the record for the warmest year before 2024.
3. 2022 - Continued the trend of rising global temperatures.
4. 2021 - Marked as one of the hottest years, influenced by climate change factors.
5. 2020 - Notable for extreme weather events and high temperatures despite pandemic lockdowns.
6. 2019 - Recorded high temperatures, contributing to the ongoing warming trend.
7. 2018 - Another year of significant temperature increases.
8. 2017 - Continued the pattern of rising global temperatures.
9. 2016 - Previously the warmest year, influenced by a strong El Niño event.
10. 2015 - Marked the beginning of a series of record-breaking warm years.

Context​

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and NASA have confirmed that 2024 is the warmest year on record, with the past ten years being the hottest decade ever recorded. This unprecedented streak of high temperatures is attributed to human-induced climate change, primarily due to greenhouse gas emissions. The implications of these rising temperatures include increased frequency of extreme weather events, rising sea levels, and significant impacts on ecosystems and human health.
NASA+1
This data underscores the urgent need for global climate action to mitigate the effects of climate change and limit future temperature increases.

Total bull excriment. The Europeans admitted they falsified their data to make it look like out-of-ordinary recent trends. My data from my state that I have looked at shows it was warmer in the 40's than today, and now it looks like we are headed for another series of heavy ice and snow years.

To top it off, these idiots ignore the change in measurement technology: the old mercury thermometers were replaced in the 1990's with automated, instantaneous, digital technology. Now, they are even using satelite imaging technology to estimate temperatures. These things can not be compared to mercury thermometers from 100 years ago when a person had to physically go outside and make a reading.

The real threat to our civilization is the incompetence and indoctrination of the simple minded.

 

[Samofvt]

You probably have even that backwards. If anything, math and science serve man's survival over the long haul by improving man's chances and standards of living, while art and music serve man over the short haul by placating man in his daily life and giving us a creative outlet.

You know what? Bureaucrats in the USA recently tried to change the definition of the "Scientific Method." Ever since the Renaissance (hundreds of years ago), the Scientific Method was taken to be the proof of a hypothesis by rigorous and unbiased observations. Now, they claim it is just a consensus opinion that can be decided by a bureau of designated authorities.

This new definition is the Soviet definition, and the reason they failed at advancing much. The globalist/authoritarian/communists are picking away at our civilization one brick at a time, hoping to see us fail. And besides: they hate the truth and the light.

 

[toobfreak]

You know what? Bureaucrats in the USA recently tried to change the definition of the "Scientific Method." Ever since the Renaissance (hundreds of years ago), the Scientific Method was taken to be the proof of a hypothesis by rigorous and unbiased observations. Now, they claim it is just a consensus opinion that can be decided by a bureau of designated authorities.

This new definition is the Soviet definition, and the reason they failed at advancing much. The globalist/authoritarian/communists are picking away at our civilization one brick at a time, hoping to see us fail. And besides: they hate the truth and the light.

Would have been nice if you had included even a single link to something which actually supported your claims. It never fails to amaze me the number of people who make extraordinary claims which you would think would include extraordinary proof that convinced them, yet they include nothing...

 

[Samofvt]

Would have been nice if you had included even a single link to something which actually supported your claims. It never fails to amaze me the number of people who make extraordinary claims which you would think would include extraordinary proof that convinced them, yet they include nothing...

The root of the problem is that the change was made in a reference manual used by Judges. The Scientific Method is a pillar of western civilization. It is a basic concept, not something that changes based on the ebb and flow politics. The globalists need to change the original definition because they need to indoctrinate people into following their authoritarian commands. They can't have people making independent observations that refute their claims and gaining traction.

One concise description of the new change is found in this paper:

Open Letter to Federal Judicial Center Chair, Chief Justice John Roberts - CO2 Coalition

Richard Lindzen, Ph. D. Professor of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Emeritus Professor of Physics Massachusetts Institute of Technology William Happer, Ph. D. Emeritus Professor of Physics, Princeton University Steven Koonin, Ph. D. Edward Teller Senior Fellow Hoover Institution...

co2coalition.org

Here are some more links to a description of the problem:

A Key Judicial Manual Is Changing What Counts as Science

New guidance risks blurring the line between scientific proof and policy advocacy.

www.city-journal.org

Schachtman Law » How Science Works in the New Reference Manual on Scientific Evidence

 

[toobfreak]

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It's official? What is official, dummass, that much of the planet is currently a degree warmer while other parts are a degree cooler than they were over a 29 year period?

What does that prove of the cause? What does that prove of the future? Show me ten or more previous 29 year periods to establish a pattern at least.

Taken by itself, 29 years amounts to 0.0000000063% of all of Earth's past. And we know from stratigraphic evidence that the Earth has been much warmer most of the time and even cooler, in fact, we are presently in a minor ice age of sorts, rather chilly compared to most of the past-- all without man. So your map proves nothing and is just so much political propaganda.

 

[Samofvt]

It's official? What is official, dummass, that much of the planet is currently a degree warmer while other parts are a degree cooler than they were over a 29 year period?

What does that prove of the cause? What does that prove of the future? Show me ten or more previous 29 year periods to establish a pattern at least.

Taken by itself, 29 years amounts to 0.0000000063% of all of Earth's past. And we know from stratigraphic evidence that the Earth has been much warmer most of the time and even cooler, in fact, we are presently in a minor ice age of sorts, rather chilly compared to most of the past-- all without man. So your map proves nothing and is just so much political propaganda.

Here is another piece of information that is being cleverly hidden (censored):

In any scientific observation, the method of observation is critical ["Histories of Scientific Observation", 2011, Datsun & Lunbeck]. In this case, we know from historical records that the method of observation of temperature data prior to mid 1990's was by mercury thermometer taken by human beings who had to go outside and physically read the measurement indicated by the mercury in the bulb.

During the 1990's, mercury thermometers were gradually replaced with digital measurement equipment. The sensors were attached to computers that were capable of sampling temperature readings each second, or even micro-second.

Today, the researchers are attempting to mesh measurement data taken by satellite imaging cameras located in low earth orbit.

These methods can not be compared. Already, the European agencies have admitted that they falsified data mercury thermometer readings taken in the 1930's and 1940's in order to justify their alarmist theories.

 

[toobfreak]

These methods can not be compared. Already, the European agencies have admitted that they falsified data mercury thermometer readings taken in the 1930's and 1940's in order to justify their alarmist theories.

It would not surprise me. All weather data prior to say the 1980s was 100% analog, taken off analog instruments and handwritten into books, so right away, older data is subject to additional levels of error and bias that newer, digital data is free of. If someone had any vested interest at all in or was motivated in either way to come to a certain particular outcome, like to prove climate change, this was the time to record the data erroneously as they digitized it.

After that, in all likelihood, the original, handwritten records were probably destroyed or stuffed into boxes and filed away in some dusty closet to never be seen again, so, who would ever know?

One thing progressivism has proven is that it is much more important to the Left to have the data support the agenda then to mold their agenda to match the data.

 

[EMH]

Weather and climate are really the same things just measured over different periods of time

WRONG


Climate is the parameters that allow for certain ranges of weather. Earth climate is dictated by how much ice is on the planet, which controls

temperature
ocean levels
atmospheric thickness/pressure
humidity/wetness


The amount of ice on Earth is overwhelmingly about where land is. Land within 600 miles to a pole goes into ice age. Right now, with 90% of Earth ice on AA, 7% on Greenland, we have 9 million cubic miles of ice. During Jurassic, Earth had way less than 1 million.

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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