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Tell me what made Brandon van Grack a Biden crony. Go ahead. This should be interesting.The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck
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Tell me what made Brandon van Grack a Biden crony. Go ahead. This should be interesting.The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck
Ahem .. You are debating the dumbest fuck on the board. Why?Tell me what made Brandon van Grack a Biden crony. Go ahead. This should be interesting.The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck
He isn't debating you, moron.Ahem .. You are debating the dumbest fuck on the board. Why?Tell me what made Brandon van Grack a Biden crony. Go ahead. This should be interesting.The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck
He was on the Mueller investigation, dumbfuck.Tell me what made Brandon van Grack a Biden crony. Go ahead. This should be interesting.The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck
Yeah, and he'll make sure that we never forget it.I'm not the one licking Biden's A-hole, moron. You, DrLove and Surada are.You can't do better than a bullseye.Is that the best you can do?You're the one who's thinking about that imagery. That makes you kind of sick. Well, more than kind of. Just plain sick.I'm not licking Biden's asshole. You are.Have you had your fill of Dear leader’s poop chute yet?You believe you're normal? Licking Biden's A-hole doesn't make you normal, moron.Assclowns such as BriFuk should stay home and shaddup -Patriotic Americans don't do it. Only commie traitors do it.90% of Republicans back Trump, you lying moron.AND most importantly,hate AmericaBiden voters are pathetic.
Nope. Biden voters are patriots and for the most part have better manners than Trump hardliners.. That's why only 35% of the Republicans still back Trump..
Here are some example of the manners of Biden voters:
Best evidence I've seen so far of a real insurrection, masked thugs attacking federal buildings with circular saws, mototov cocktails, and burned American flags.
Burning the flag is a pretty clear indication you don't exactly hold the USA in high regard and should make you considered an enemy of the state and put on an FBI watch list.
Burning the flag is legal.
Or move to Belarus .. Understand It’s loverly this time of year.
If you assholes are all into autocracies?
Go for it - but LEAVE & let normal folk alone
Wow.. You are disgusting.
And? Biden had nothing to do with the Mueller investigation.He was on the Mueller investigation, dumbfuck.Tell me what made Brandon van Grack a Biden crony. Go ahead. This should be interesting.The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck
He didn't withdraw his plea. He tried to withdraw his plea. That motion had not been accepted by the court at the time Flynn was pardoned. And he was never cleared.sorry it’s not a crow when it’s not a material fact and when the call is legit, nothing he could have lied about was material to itIt matters not that the call was legit. Flynn wasn't charged for having a conversation with a Russian ambassador. He was charged with lying to the FBI about what he said during that call. And that is a crime and he did plead guilty. That makes him a convicted felon. And that was his status when he accepted a pardon from the President. That's not being exonerated.cool...and they did...and found the call to be legitWell that's not true. There was an ongoing investigation into Russia meddling with the 2016 election. Monitoring that call was part of it.yeah they had no business investigating the call, since the call had been invetigated and it was legit.I literally already said, not sure why you want me to say it again. They argued that it couldn't be material because Flynn shouldn't have been under investigation, neglecting that plenty of others were under investigation too.how was it misapplied? what defination, and what was the materiality.They misapplied the definition of material. They pretended like his statements could only be material to his specific interaction with the specific investigation into himself.be specific on the excuses what was shoddy about the reasoning!It was loaded with excuses and yes, I did read it. Nothing about the “Brady material” had anything to do with their shoddy reasoning. The entire brief was pretextual reaching because they wanted Flynn to get off easy. That’s why the judge called it out as nonsense and sought other opinions, which further excoriated the supposed document.what excuses? did you read it? it simply applied the law.Some of the DoJ are career officials.the DOJ is made up career officialsThe Trump crony at the DoJ who had nothing to do with the investigation made up an excuse for him.no the doj said even if he did lie, it wasn’t a violation because it wouldn’t of been a material fact since they already said the call was legit..there was no bases to even interview him.He did. He very much did. The DoJ’s pretextual argument was that he lied but the question didn’t need to be asked in the first place.well the technically being, he didn’t violate the lawConservatives love to say they were exonerated even when they get off only due to a technicality.You could try and fail. There was no exoneration of Flynn. Only corrupt politicians covering their asses.Remember when the Obama DOJ went after GOP rising star Bob McDonnell? Only to have the SCOTUS overturn that conviction?Conservatives would love corrupt prosecutors because then they'd be able to prosecute their political opponents just like Putin does.Bragging about getting a corrupt prosecutor, who wouldn't prosecute, fired.he’s on TV bragging about how he did it"Xiden withheld money from the country until they canned the guy looking into his son’s corrupt company"
Really?
Poster Struth you still haven't found the clue?
At this point I, for one, question your sincerity in this discussion.
It appears to be either trolling for trolling sakes.....or........willful ignorance.
There have been several posts on this thread explaining the whys and whyfor's of this kerfuffle.
And yet you persist.
Joe Biden didn't have the authority as merely the Vice President to withhold such monies.
He did have the authority...directly given to him by his boss after consultation with the State Department and European governments.....to carry their message to the Ukrainian president.
Which, he did.
It is how international diplomacy works. Duh!
If one's regular corps of diplomats is unable to make progress on an issue our nation feels is against our interest, well, you then send in a bigger gun.....a Secretary of one department or another, maybe one of the Joint Chiefs, maybe a top general, an important business leader.....or you can send in a Vice President who is long experienced in America's foreign relations .
You do all of that as "official American policy".
Duh!
not sure why or how someone from Europe would have authority to do that...
That was a fine accomplishment and not at all the crime you couldn't even properly identify.
After all, when conservatives yelled "lock her (Hillary) up," it was more than rhetorical flourish. They really wanted it to happen.
Remember when Xiden, Obama and the Obamagate gang colluded in the Oval Office to undermine the Trump admin, and go after Flynn? Only to finally have the Brady evidence released that exonerated him?
Yeah...I could go on....
You see, that's exactly what Oliver North said in 1990 when he got off on a technicality after being convicted the year before on 3 felony counts for his part in the Iran Contra scandal. I remember it specifically because someone stuck a microphone in his face and he used the word 'exonerated' to describe what happened when the appeals court vacated his conviction. Frankly, at the very least, I think he should have been convicted of a misrepresentation of the facts regarding the overturned verdict. At least that could be called justice.
The story is told below in an excerpt from Wikipedia
[North was indicted in March 1988 on 16 felony counts. His trial opened in February 1989, and on May 4, 1989, he was initially convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and ordering the destruction of documents through his secretary, Fawn Hall. He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours of community service. North performed some of his community service within Potomac Gardens, a public housing project in southeast Washington, DC. However, on July 20, 1990, with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, North's convictions were vacated, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.]
It was an absurd statement.
Hence, they never said he lied, but even if he did it wasn’t a crime.
thus he was exonerated once we saw the brady evidence
Any high ranking official who is lying to their superiors about contact with foreign officials is subject to questioning. That should be obvious. The logic in the DoJ case was strained and ignored highly relevant details.
they merely reviewed the brady even de that they mueller team was hiding for so long
The one that made up excuses for Flynn was a Barr crony who was appointed, not a career prosecutor.
The career prosecutor resigned from the case and refused to sign on.
we know from the brady material that the obama fbi said the call was legit.
if the call was legit nothing he would have lied about would have been material hence no crime
It didn’t simply apply the law. It twisted reality (and in one case falsified documents) to support itself.
what did it twisted?
But it was part of a larger counter intelligence investigation, not just an investigation into a phone call with Flynn.
What did he say that not material? Why ask about the call at all if they already determined the call was legit? A counter intelligence probe isn't a criminal probe....so even then it couldn't of been a crime.
And, the statute about lying to the FBI doesn't specify criminal probes. It says that it merely has to be a part of the jurisdiction of the government. That would include counterintelligence.
Read 18 USC 1001 yourself. Nothing about a criminal matter.
18 U.S. Code § 1001 - Statements or entries generally
www.law.cornell.edu
We know the motives, based on the Brady evidence was simply to disrupt the incoming admin.
He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
I have
And when questioned by the FBI about that call, Flynn lied to them. That's a crime for which Flynn was charged and then later pleaded guilty in front of a judge and then after that, reaffirmed his guilt in front of another judge.
And regardless of the DoJ's attempts to get the case dismissed, they failed to do so. At the time Flynn accepted his pardon, the judge on the case had still not dismissed it.
Flynn was not exonerated ... he was forgiven.
there was no baes to ask about the call...but since the call was legit nothing he even could have lied about was material to the russian investigation.
read what he was charged with..read the indictment. What they said he lied about couldn’t if been material since we know they concluded the call was legit
it was a witch-hunt lead by the obamagate gang.
You've not posted anything to counter that.
he plead and withdrew his plea
thousand is of innocent people have plead to something that they were not guilty of.
thankfully he with drew his plea for new attorneys that pushed for the brady evidence that cleared him...the mueller team was rang in, and the DOJ moved to dismiss the charge
The motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Oh, Fucking moron? Which of those prosecutors were appointed by Biden?The prosecutors were all Biden cronies, dumbfuck.You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
yeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Judge Sullivan is well versed in the rule of law and was not interested in being a passive observer as this case became a political football.yeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power
LOLOLyeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Every legal expert of note knows that
The Govt knew they had no case
nope he showed himself to be a partisan bias hack through his numerous comments rsJudge Sullivan is well versed in the rule of law and was not interested in being a passive observer as this case became a political football.yeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power
Judges protect the system from corrupt political maneuvers like Barr’s crony was trying to do.
he was exonerated via the evidence the muller team was hidingLOLOLyeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Every legal expert of note knows that
The Govt knew they had no case
Not an issue??
It's the legal status of the case. The same way you say the judge was a Liberal lackey, others say the prosecutor who filed the motion to dismiss was a Trump lackey.
And neither matters. Flynn's legal status at the time he was pardoned was as a convicted felon. His motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court. The prosecutor's motion to dismiss the case had not been granted by the court.
He was forgiven, not exonerated. That will never change. Certainly not by you.
The prosecution was over. Flynn plead guilty. Sullivan did not have an obligation to dismiss charges as the rules lay out. He does have an obligation to prevent partisan hacks like Barr’s crony from being corrupt in his court.A judges job is not to tell the executive branch who and who not to prosecute...that’s a violation of the separation. of powers
At best the DoJ motion to dismiss merely stated it is okay to lie to the FBI sometimes. At worst the motion to dismiss stated it’s okay to lie to the FBI of the president likes you.The DOJ Motion to Dismiss exonerated him
LOLhe was exonerated via the evidence the muller team was hidingLOLOLyeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Every legal expert of note knows that
The Govt knew they had no case
Not an issue??
It's the legal status of the case. The same way you say the judge was a Liberal lackey, others say the prosecutor who filed the motion to dismiss was a Trump lackey.
And neither matters. Flynn's legal status at the time he was pardoned was as a convicted felon. His motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court. The prosecutor's motion to dismiss the case had not been granted by the court.
He was forgiven, not exonerated. That will never change. Certainly not by you.
The DOJ Motion to Dismiss exonerated him
sure they do. happens all the time. Gets the record completely clean without having to waste time on an expungementLOLhe was exonerated via the evidence the muller team was hidingLOLOLyeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Every legal expert of note knows that
The Govt knew they had no case
Not an issue??
It's the legal status of the case. The same way you say the judge was a Liberal lackey, others say the prosecutor who filed the motion to dismiss was a Trump lackey.
And neither matters. Flynn's legal status at the time he was pardoned was as a convicted felon. His motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court. The prosecutor's motion to dismiss the case had not been granted by the court.
He was forgiven, not exonerated. That will never change. Certainly not by you.
The DOJ Motion to Dismiss exonerated him
Exonerated people do not need a pardon.
He was forgiven, not exonerated.
The general wouldn’t need protection if he hadn’t lied to the FBI.sure they do. happens all the time. Gets the record completely clean without having to waste time on an expungementLOLhe was exonerated via the evidence the muller team was hidingLOLOLyeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Every legal expert of note knows that
The Govt knew they had no case
Not an issue??
It's the legal status of the case. The same way you say the judge was a Liberal lackey, others say the prosecutor who filed the motion to dismiss was a Trump lackey.
And neither matters. Flynn's legal status at the time he was pardoned was as a convicted felon. His motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court. The prosecutor's motion to dismiss the case had not been granted by the court.
He was forgiven, not exonerated. That will never change. Certainly not by you.
The DOJ Motion to Dismiss exonerated him
Exonerated people do not need a pardon.
He was forgiven, not exonerated.
but in this case, since xiden was one of the ring leaders of the obamagate gang that planned the unprecedented assault on the new admin and targeted flynn it was needed as well to protect the general
Nope, there's literally nothing you can say that can alter the legal standing of this case. Flynn was a convicted felon when he was pardoned. You may not like that, but that's reality.sure they do. happens all the time. Gets the record completely clean without having to waste time on an expungementLOLhe was exonerated via the evidence the muller team was hidingLOLOLyeah frankly that’s not really an issue...the Judge a liberal lackey, who was clearly trying to delay the case until after the election....abused his power. in hopes Xiden would continue the case and abuse his office going after FlynnThe motion to dismiss had not been granted by the court.hahaa yeah the folks with the law degrees are all wrong and making mistakes and you are right !You are making the same mistakes as the political crony who wrote the bullshit motion to dismiss.hahaha no no...sorry not true at all....because the call was legit. There was literally nothing about that call that he could have lied about that was material.The call was part of a larger counterintelligence investigation. Any lie about that call was material and did impact the investigation.He couldn't of lied about a material fact related to the call...because the call was legit. The call was no longer under investigation...hence why the charge about lying about it, was BS
the evidence and law are clear...the dismissal was a 100 percent right
Flynn's motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court.
Nothing you're claiming had been accepted by the court.
Every legal expert of note knows that
The Govt knew they had no case
Not an issue??
It's the legal status of the case. The same way you say the judge was a Liberal lackey, others say the prosecutor who filed the motion to dismiss was a Trump lackey.
And neither matters. Flynn's legal status at the time he was pardoned was as a convicted felon. His motion to withdraw his guilty plea had not been granted by the court. The prosecutor's motion to dismiss the case had not been granted by the court.
He was forgiven, not exonerated. That will never change. Certainly not by you.
The DOJ Motion to Dismiss exonerated him
Exonerated people do not need a pardon.
He was forgiven, not exonerated.
but in this case, since xiden was one of the ring leaders of the obamagate gang that planned the unprecedented assault on the new admin and targeted flynn it was needed as well to protect the general