Thew 7 Stages of Collusion

[Thinker101]

All these Trumpettes posting..and not 1..not 1...can directly address the OP. They hem..and they haw...throw out some clever word play..but actually address the op..directly...nope. We all know why...because their orange god is a liar...and he has liars working for him. No defense is possible...so they scramble like roaches when the light comes on...sad.

next..will be some trump apologist telling how they won't lower themselves..or some such nonsense.

Pure avoidance.

Gee, I wonder why that is. Maybe, just maybe because it's one of the lamest threads of the day, possibly week. Something we'd expect from Rightwinger.

You wish.

If you believe its "lame" (incorrect?), how about some proof?

Hmmm?

Hmmm...you want proof that it's lame? LOL....really!?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

All these Trumpettes posting..and not 1..not 1...can directly address the OP. They hem..and they haw...throw out some clever word play..but actually address the op..directly...nope. We all know why...because their orange god is a liar...and he has liars working for him. No defense is possible...so they scramble like roaches when the light comes on...sad.

next..will be some trump apologist telling how they won't lower themselves..or some such nonsense.

Pure avoidance.

They never do.

Here's the thing - Mueller has quietly worked away, building his case, issuing indictments, collecting confessions, tripping up the damn lying trumps and along comes dumb/senile rudy to help send trump to the gallows.

RWs are in denial.

Otherwise, they would evidence, some proof of their statements.

Same reason why they lie.

Really good OP, btw. Well documented and presented.

(And now you hafta send me a check.)

 

[Luddly Neddite]

All these Trumpettes posting..and not 1..not 1...can directly address the OP. They hem..and they haw...throw out some clever word play..but actually address the op..directly...nope. We all know why...because their orange god is a liar...and he has liars working for him. No defense is possible...so they scramble like roaches when the light comes on...sad.

next..will be some trump apologist telling how they won't lower themselves..or some such nonsense.

Pure avoidance.

Gee, I wonder why that is. Maybe, just maybe because it's one of the lamest threads of the day, possibly week. Something we'd expect from Rightwinger.

You wish.

If you believe its "lame" (incorrect?), how about some proof?

Hmmm?

Hmmm...you want proof that it's lame? LOL....really!?

Fair enough. Its Mueller who has the proof.

Some how about some evidence?

Ya got anything at all?

Anything?

LOL

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The joke sir..is your continued deliberate ignorance of what is right in front of our face. Your butt-buddy President is a liar..a pathological liar..and all those who support him without acknowledging that fact are fools..and pathetic fools at that.

lemme guess...you're not at all upset, is that right?

 

[Thinker101]

All these Trumpettes posting..and not 1..not 1...can directly address the OP. They hem..and they haw...throw out some clever word play..but actually address the op..directly...nope. We all know why...because their orange god is a liar...and he has liars working for him. No defense is possible...so they scramble like roaches when the light comes on...sad.

next..will be some trump apologist telling how they won't lower themselves..or some such nonsense.

Pure avoidance.

Gee, I wonder why that is. Maybe, just maybe because it's one of the lamest threads of the day, possibly week. Something we'd expect from Rightwinger.

You wish.

If you believe its "lame" (incorrect?), how about some proof?

Hmmm?

Hmmm...you want proof that it's lame? LOL....really!?

Fair enough. Its Mueller who has the proof.

Some how about some evidence?

Ya got anything at all?

Anything?

LOL

Slow that camel down pal, we may be rooting for the same side.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I accept your gracious surrender...wise to know when you're outclassed by the truth.

lol...aw eef, it would have been easier if ya just said I'm rubber and you're glue

 

[edward37]

Analysis | Rudy Giuliani just watered down Trump’s Russia collusion denial — again

Interesting to see it all laid out:



We don't know whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government, legally speaking. But we do know that those close to President Trump seem to be quite concerned about just how precisely you define the word “collusion.”


Rudolph W. Giuliani hit the airwaves of Fox News on Wednesday night to again raise the bar for what might constitute collusion. On the same day that 2,500 pages of testimony about the 2016 Trump Tower meeting were released, Giuliani declared that collusion would require using information that was provided by the Russians.


“And even if it comes from a Russian, or a German, or an American, it doesn’t matter,” he said of the opposition research that was offered. “And they never used it is the main thing. They never used it. They rejected it. If there was collusion with the Russians, they would have used it.”




Giuliani's argument was conspicuous, given that it appeared to go further in narrowing the definition of collusion than we've seen to date. Previously, the operative denial was that valuable information from the meeting didn't even exist — a contention that the testimony on the Trump Tower meeting seemed to confirm.


This may seem to be splitting hairs, but the new argument allows for the Trump team to have received information from foreign sources, as long as it wasn't utilized. We will see whether that's a distinction he's drawing for a reason. It's possible that Giuliani was just speaking loosely while trying to restate the previous company line. (He has certainly been sloppy before.)


But to be clear, this is the latest episode in what has been a steady narrowing of the Trump team's denials of collusion. Here are the seven distinct stages of collusion denial I've identified:

1. November 2016: No communications, period


Hope Hicks: “It never happened. There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.”


2. February 2017: There were no communications, “to the best of our knowledge”


Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “This is a non-story because, to the best of our knowledge, no contacts took place.”


3. March 2017: There were communications, but no planned meetings with Russians


Donald Trump Jr.: “Did I meet with people that were Russian? I'm sure, I'm sure I did. ... But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”


4. July 8, 2017: There was a planned meeting at Trump Tower, but it was “primarily” about adoption and not the campaign


Trump Jr.: “We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at that time and there was no follow-up.”


5. July 9, 2017: The meeting was planned to discuss the campaign, but the information exchanged wasn't “meaningful”


Trump Jr.: “No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”


6. December 2017: Collusion isn't even a crime


President Trump: “There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime.”


Jay Sekulow: “For something to be a crime, there has to be a statute that you claim is being violated. There is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion.”


(Technically speaking, the criminal code doesn't use the word “collusion,” but it's generally understood as a broad term that could encompass more specific, codified crimes. And even special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's team has used it in court filings.)


7. May 2018: Even if meaningful information were obtained, it wasn't used


Giuliani: “And even if it comes from a Russian, or a German, or an American, it doesn’t matter. And they never used it, is the main thing. They never used it. They rejected it. If there was collusion with the Russians, they would have used it.”

[One thing, Rudy Giuliani: The Trump campaign *did* use it.]

Cohen dealing for a trump tower in russia with some of the same russians known to have meddled in our election What fn slime bags our republican slime protect

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I got the OP...that you're too scared to address directly.

Ya got us shaking in our shoes eef

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Cohen dealing for a trump tower in russia with some of the same russians known to have meddled in our election What fn slime bags our republican slime protect

you do know your frustration level is obvious

 

[Muhammed]

Better name would be 'Liars and the Price they Pay'

aka...the hillary complex

aka..the ritual Hillary deflection..well played sir!

Hillary deflection is right on the money. The TrumPutin conspiracy theory was manufactured by the Clinton campaign to deflect media attention away from the fact that she rigged the election.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

All these Trumpettes posting..and not 1..not 1...can directly address the OP. They hem..and they haw...throw out some clever word play..but actually address the op..directly...nope. We all know why...because their orange god is a liar...and he has liars working for him. No defense is possible...so they scramble like roaches when the light comes on...sad.

next..will be some trump apologist telling how they won't lower themselves..or some such nonsense.

Pure avoidance.

They never do.

Here's the thing - Mueller has quietly worked away, building his case, issuing indictments, collecting confessions, tripping up the damn lying trumps and along comes dumb/senile rudy to help send trump to the gallows.

RWs are in denial.

Otherwise, they would evidence, some proof of their statements.

Same reason why they lie.

Really good OP, btw. Well documented and presented.

(And now you hafta send me a check.)

It's in the mail..LOL!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Thew 7 Stages of Collusion

1. Hillary does the uranium deal

2. Her state department loses 6 billion dollars

3. John Kerry makes the Iranian deal

4. Hillary smashes her black berrys

5. Hillary deletes 30,000 emails

6. The DNC rigged their nominations

7. Upset that Russia informed the American public