Netanyahu’s Historic Win — and Obama’s Humiliating Loss

[Faun]

Yet you can't answer a simple question which you base your opinion on. . You think some magical solution is just going to prevent Iran from building a nuke? Who's gonna stop them?

You admit, you don't know. But yet, at the same time, you idiotically declare Obama's plan is bad for Israel. Seems your opinion is based on nothing.

Israel has bombed their nuclear facility before. Why not again?

Who says they shouldn't? They should do everything in their power to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. They're Iran's first target.

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

So . . . now the left wants to bomb Iran. How ironic. We could keep enforcing sanctions. Then they don't have the MEANS to obtain uranium.

This also works on our side because once the people are hungry, they are going to become angry. What do you think the people are going to choose? Food or nuclear power plants?

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

 

[jknowgood]

Israel has bombed their nuclear facility before. Why not again?

Who says they shouldn't? They should do everything in their power to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. They're Iran's first target.

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

Why let Iran get the bomb in the first place. Obama is about as trustworthy as a crack head needing a fix.

Who said let them get a bomb in the first place?? Obama's plan includes Iran's nuclear facilities being monitored. Without his plan, they can build a nuke undetected. So again I ask, how is Israel better off without Obama's plan?

Yeah, I trust iran more than Obama. Obama is making the deal, and wether you like it or not. Obama is a muslim.

 

[jknowgood]

Israel has bombed their nuclear facility before. Why not again?

Who says they shouldn't? They should do everything in their power to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. They're Iran's first target.

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

So . . . now the left wants to bomb Iran. How ironic. We could keep enforcing sanctions. Then they don't have the MEANS to obtain uranium.

This also works on our side because once the people are hungry, they are going to become angry. What do you think the people are going to choose? Food or nuclear power plants?

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

So you will trust a treaty negotiated by a guy that draws imaginary red lines?

 

[Faun]

Who says they shouldn't? They should do everything in their power to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. They're Iran's first target.

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

Why let Iran get the bomb in the first place. Obama is about as trustworthy as a crack head needing a fix.

Who said let them get a bomb in the first place?? Obama's plan includes Iran's nuclear facilities being monitored. Without his plan, they can build a nuke undetected. So again I ask, how is Israel better off without Obama's plan?

Yeah, I trust iran more than Obama. Obama is making the deal, and wether you like it or not. Obama is a muslim.

Explain how Israel is better off without the deal ... without any monitoring of Iran's nuclear facilities ... without the commitment of military intervention from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

Without the deal, no one has any clue what Iran is up to. Without the deal, Israel has no confirmation from any nation that they will resort to military strikes against Iran. How the hell is Israel better off with no deal?

 

[Faun]

Who says they shouldn't? They should do everything in their power to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. They're Iran's first target.

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

So . . . now the left wants to bomb Iran. How ironic. We could keep enforcing sanctions. Then they don't have the MEANS to obtain uranium.

This also works on our side because once the people are hungry, they are going to become angry. What do you think the people are going to choose? Food or nuclear power plants?

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

So you will trust a treaty negotiated by a guy that draws imaginary red lines?

The deal is not with Obama alone. It includes Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

 

[Slyhunter]

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

Why let Iran get the bomb in the first place. Obama is about as trustworthy as a crack head needing a fix.

Who said let them get a bomb in the first place?? Obama's plan includes Iran's nuclear facilities being monitored. Without his plan, they can build a nuke undetected. So again I ask, how is Israel better off without Obama's plan?

Yeah, I trust iran more than Obama. Obama is making the deal, and wether you like it or not. Obama is a muslim.

Explain how Israel is better off without the deal ... without any monitoring of Iran's nuclear facilities ... without the commitment of military intervention from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

Without the deal, no one has any clue what Iran is up to. Without the deal, Israel has no confirmation from any nation that they will resort to military strikes against Iran. How the hell is Israel better off with no deal?

So a deal with the devil that allows him to get stronger and take you out later is better than no deal with the devil. How about you just kill the devil.

 

[Slyhunter]

Israel has bombed their nuclear facility before. Why not again?

Who says they shouldn't? They should do everything in their power to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. They're Iran's first target.

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

Why let Iran get the bomb in the first place. Obama is about as trustworthy as a crack head needing a fix.

Who said let them get a bomb in the first place?? Obama's plan includes Iran's nuclear facilities being monitored. Without his plan, they can build a nuke undetected. So again I ask, how is Israel better off without Obama's plan?

My plan, we demolish all his nuclear facilities as soon as he builds them. Thus no need to worry about a bomb.

 

[Rambunctious]

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

Moron Faun...it is your new handle. Look! The people in Iran are already on edge with the mullahs in their country. Crushing Sanctions handed down by a president with guts and respect (unfortunately both of which Obama lacks) will put pressure on an already unstable government in Iran. Why don't you get that? Then a few thousand well placed bombs and you bring down the Iranian government in less than a year. And Kick their asses out of Iraq as well.
They do not belong there. We the United States of America won that war. We should still be there today but Obama had an election to win so he gave away our victory to Isis scumbags.
Anyone that still respects Obama is as big of a loser as he is. Check his latest poll numbers. They are doing a nose dive as we speak.

 

[Faun]

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

Why let Iran get the bomb in the first place. Obama is about as trustworthy as a crack head needing a fix.

Who said let them get a bomb in the first place?? Obama's plan includes Iran's nuclear facilities being monitored. Without his plan, they can build a nuke undetected. So again I ask, how is Israel better off without Obama's plan?

Yeah, I trust iran more than Obama. Obama is making the deal, and wether you like it or not. Obama is a muslim.

Explain how Israel is better off without the deal ... without any monitoring of Iran's nuclear facilities ... without the commitment of military intervention from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

Without the deal, no one has any clue what Iran is up to. Without the deal, Israel has no confirmation from any nation that they will resort to military strikes against Iran. How the hell is Israel better off with no deal?

So a deal with the devil that allows him to get stronger and take you out later is better than no deal with the devil. How about you just kill the devil.

Who's gonna "kill the devil?"

 

[bendog]

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

Moron Faun...it is your new handle. Look! The people in Iran are already on edge with the mullahs in their country. Crushing Sanctions handed down by a president with guts and respect (unfortunately both of which Obama lacks) will put pressure on an already unstable government in Iran. Why don't you get that? Then a few thousand well placed bombs and you bring down the Iranian government in less than a year. And Kick their asses out of Iraq as well.
They do not belong there. We the United States of America won that war. We should still be there today but Obama had an election to win so he gave away our victory to Isis scumbags.
Anyone that still respects Obama is as big of a loser as he is. Check his latest poll numbers. They are doing a nose dive as we speak.

Bombing Iran will obviously encourage the Iranians to abandon their govt. A unicorn told me this.

 

[Rambunctious]

The deal is not with Obama alone. It includes Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

 

[Rambunctious]

Bombing Iran will obviously encourage the Iranians to abandon their govt. A unicorn told me this.

So why am I not surprised that a liberal would believe in Unicorns...

 

[bendog]

Bombing Iran will obviously encourage the Iranians to abandon their govt. A unicorn told me this.

So why am I not surprised that a liberal would believe in Unicorns...

You're the unicorn, dude.

 

[Faun]

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

Moron Faun...it is your new handle. Look! The people in Iran are already on edge with the mullahs in their country. Crushing Sanctions handed down by a president with guts and respect (unfortunately both of which Obama lacks) will put pressure on an already unstable government in Iran. Why don't you get that? Then a few thousand well placed bombs and you bring down the Iranian government in less than a year. And Kick their asses out of Iraq as well.
They do not belong there. We the United States of America won that war. We should still be there today but Obama had an election to win so he gave away our victory to Isis scumbags.
Anyone that still respects Obama is as big of a loser as he is. Check his latest poll numbers. They are doing a nose dive as we speak.

Great. Another moron. Imbecile ... we had sanctions on North Korea, they still built nuclear weapons. We've had sanctions on Iran for many years now. They are still working on developing nuclear weapons.

Sanctions don't prevent nations from building nukes. Israel is fucked if they rely on America's brain-dead right to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon.

And really? You want to talk about Obama's poll numbers?? At this point in each Republicans presidency according to Gallup...

Obama ......... 46%
GHW Bush ... 35%
GH Bush ....... not in office
Reagan ......... 47%
Ford .............. not in office
Nixon ............ not in office
Eisenhower .. 51%

You have to go back 56 years to find one with even a 5 point margin higher than Obama. And even that was still within the MoE.

 

[Rambunctious]

we had sanctions on North Korea, they still built nuclear weapons.

Carter/Clinton relaxed sanctions on NK and sent them food medicine and US dollars over the hundreds of objections and warnings from the republicans. Either you're very young or you have not done your homework. That is what is so troubling...Obama has history to show him that this is no way to deal with a terrorist nation bent on getting nukes but he marches on. And Idiot government trolls like you pave the way. You're not fooling anyone. How's the weather at the White house today? troll

 

[SAYIT]

...It also may be a cross roads for Israel since any negotiated two state "solution" is off the table, permanently....

I know you aren't stupid but that is one really stupid premise. In fact, Bibi has already said so but beyond that I promise you this ... Bibi will not be Israel's PM permanently.

Why is it a stupid premise? IF I'm an Israeli who, unlike Bibi, would be open to a two state solution, I sure as hell wouldn't vote for anyone who'd give up control of the West Bank so long as there was a possibility that some group like ISIS could take over Jordan.

If a two state solution is the goal, we have to find a way to solve the even greater problem. Again, the irony is the Palestinians biggest enemy is not Likud but rather radical jihadists.

It's a stupid premise because Bibi's election (and campaign rhetoric) did not - as you claimed - take a "negotiated two state solution ... off the table, permanently." I can't believe I had to explain that to you but you correctly noted that the Arabs' biggest enemy is ... the Arabs.

 

[ChrisL]

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

Moron Faun...it is your new handle. Look! The people in Iran are already on edge with the mullahs in their country. Crushing Sanctions handed down by a president with guts and respect (unfortunately both of which Obama lacks) will put pressure on an already unstable government in Iran. Why don't you get that? Then a few thousand well placed bombs and you bring down the Iranian government in less than a year. And Kick their asses out of Iraq as well.
They do not belong there. We the United States of America won that war. We should still be there today but Obama had an election to win so he gave away our victory to Isis scumbags.
Anyone that still respects Obama is as big of a loser as he is. Check his latest poll numbers. They are doing a nose dive as we speak.

Great. Another moron. Imbecile ... we had sanctions on North Korea, they still built nuclear weapons. We've had sanctions on Iran for many years now. They are still working on developing nuclear weapons.

Sanctions don't prevent nations from building nukes. Israel is fucked if they rely on America's brain-dead right to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon.

And really? You want to talk about Obama's poll numbers?? At this point in each Republicans presidency according to Gallup...

Obama ......... 46%
GHW Bush ... 35%
GH Bush ....... not in office
Reagan ......... 47%
Ford .............. not in office
Nixon ............ not in office
Eisenhower .. 51%

You have to go back 56 years to find one with even a 5 point margin higher than Obama. And even that was still within the MoE.

Thank YOU for making the point that "helping" them with nuclear energy leads to them developing bombs!! And THAT is what happens when you help rogue countries develop nuclear capabilities.

North Korea and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The nuclear program can be traced back to about 1962, when North Korea committed itself to what it called "all-fortressization", which was the beginning of the hyper-militarized North Korea of today.[18] In 1963 North Korea asked the Soviet Union for help in developing nuclear weapons, but was refused. The Soviet Union agreed to help North Korea develop a peaceful nuclear energy program, including the training of nuclear scientists. Later, China, after its nuclear tests, similarly rejected North Korean requests for help with developing nuclear weapons.[19]

Soviet specialists took part in the construction of the Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center[20] and began construction of an IRT-2000research reactor in 1963, which became operational in 1965 and was upgraded to 8 MW in 1974.[21] In 1979 North Korea indigenously began to build in Yongbyon a second research reactor, an ore processing plant and a fuel rod fabrication plant.[22]

North Korea's nuclear weapons program dates back to the 1980s. Focusing on practical uses of nuclear energy and the completion of a nuclear weapon development system, North Korea began to operate facilities for uranium fabrication and conversion, and conducted high-explosive detonation tests.[18] In 1985 North Korea ratified the NPT, but did not conclude the required safeguards agreement with the IAEA until 1992. In early 1993, while verifying North Korea's initial declaration, the IAEA concluded that there was strong evidence this declaration was incomplete. When North Korea refused the requested special inspection, the IAEA reported its non-compliance to the UN Security Council. In 1993, North Korea announced its withdrawal from the NPT, but suspended that withdrawal before it took effect.[23]

Under the 1994 Agreed Framework, the U.S. government agreed to facilitate the supply of two light water reactors to North Korea in exchange for North Korean disarmament.[24][25] Such reactors are considered "more proliferation-resistant than North Korea's graphite-moderated reactors",[26]but not "proliferation proof".[27] Implementation of the Agreed Framework floundered, and in 2002 the Agreed Framework fell apart, with each side blaming the other for its failure. By 2002, Pakistan had admitted that North Korea had gained access to Pakistan's nuclear technology in the late 1990s.[28] Based on evidence from Pakistan, Libya, and multiple confessions from North Korea itself, the United States accused North Korea of non-compliance and halted oil shipments; North Korea later claimed its public confession of guilt had been deliberately misconstrued. By the end of 2002, the Agreed Framework was officially dead.

 

[jknowgood]

So then, yes Obama's plan for Iran. Is bad for israel.

Umm ... with Obama's plan, they don't have to. With Obama's plan, they have a pledge from the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany that they will bomb Iran (effectively for Israel).

So how is Israel better off bombing Iran when they could have the U.S., Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany bombing Iran for them?

So . . . now the left wants to bomb Iran. How ironic. We could keep enforcing sanctions. Then they don't have the MEANS to obtain uranium.

This also works on our side because once the people are hungry, they are going to become angry. What do you think the people are going to choose? Food or nuclear power plants?

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

So you will trust a treaty negotiated by a guy that draws imaginary red lines?

The deal is not with Obama alone. It includes Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

If it goes through, who do you think will take credit? At least it's proven it didn't do any good.

 

[SAYIT]

Again I know you think you are clever and I know you hate Jew's but everyone who has a stake in whatever happens should be involved...

I've been reading Faun's posts for some time and I've seen no Jew-hate ... not even the couched language so many haters use.

 

[ChrisL]

You're a fucking moron. That's been thoroughly established. That's also very likely why you actually believe sanctions are going to prevent Iran from obtaining Uranium.

Moron Faun...it is your new handle. Look! The people in Iran are already on edge with the mullahs in their country. Crushing Sanctions handed down by a president with guts and respect (unfortunately both of which Obama lacks) will put pressure on an already unstable government in Iran. Why don't you get that? Then a few thousand well placed bombs and you bring down the Iranian government in less than a year. And Kick their asses out of Iraq as well.
They do not belong there. We the United States of America won that war. We should still be there today but Obama had an election to win so he gave away our victory to Isis scumbags.
Anyone that still respects Obama is as big of a loser as he is. Check his latest poll numbers. They are doing a nose dive as we speak.

Great. Another moron. Imbecile ... we had sanctions on North Korea, they still built nuclear weapons. We've had sanctions on Iran for many years now. They are still working on developing nuclear weapons.

Sanctions don't prevent nations from building nukes. Israel is fucked if they rely on America's brain-dead right to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon.

And really? You want to talk about Obama's poll numbers?? At this point in each Republicans presidency according to Gallup...

Obama ......... 46%
GHW Bush ... 35%
GH Bush ....... not in office
Reagan ......... 47%
Ford .............. not in office
Nixon ............ not in office
Eisenhower .. 51%

You have to go back 56 years to find one with even a 5 point margin higher than Obama. And even that was still within the MoE.

Is that all you care about, is Obama? Pathetic. FTW, as long as you can make Obama look good. You're a disgrace to the human race.