Netanyahu to Attend a USS Liberty Memorial?

What's much more sickening is america's dysfunctional obsession with Israel. We've become so accustomed to excusing and engaging in denial of Israel’s protracted occupation, settlement expansions and violence that we now discount the word of our own armed service personnel.

Yes, but I was specifically talking about the Liberty incident. My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America. Obama has criticized Israel in the areas you've mentioned. As for the incident itself: 1) Does EVERYONE from the Liberty believe that it was deliberate? 2) How can they know it from Israel's point of view? 3) Weren't there already about 7 or 8 investigations that absolved Israel?


"My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America."

And why wouldn't they. We fight their proxy wars for them, hand them about 20% or so of the funding for their defense budget, and back them no matter what they ever do, atrocities and all.







What proxy war have you fought in then ?

Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens

"What proxy war have you fought in then ?"

The US, you remember?

"Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens"

You're making shit up again. "Double"? "10 times"? Bullshit, pulling random numbers out your ass.







So you have fought in the US of A against whom ?

No facts as most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel, and Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid.

I leave the LIES to you and the rest of team Palestine.

I guess this reads like some kind of argument to you?

most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel

Bullshit, gonna need evidence, remember what you typed: most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel

Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid

Let's accept that at face value since you couldn't support it anyway. And you think that's a good thing? That US taxpayers are providing socialist subsidies to arms manufacturers and dealers keeping the middle east in turmoil?

Endless war at the outter reaches of empire is not a good sign for this society going forward.
 
The President of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, Ernest A. Gallo, sent a letter dated January 10, 2016 to President Barack Obama requesting that he invite Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to attend a Memorial Service at Arlington National Cemetery at noon on June 8, 2016 commemorating the June 8, 1967 Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY in which 32 Americans were killed and 171 were wounded.
Target Liberty: Obama Challenged to Invite Netanyahu to Attend a Memorial Service Commemorating Those Who Died in the Israeli Attack of the USS LIberty

He don´t have the balls






And as the official report shows it was an accident, just as the killing of the British soldiers in Iraq by American gung ho pilots was also an accident. Will Obama apologise for those deaths ?
right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.





Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.
 
The President of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, Ernest A. Gallo, sent a letter dated January 10, 2016 to President Barack Obama requesting that he invite Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to attend a Memorial Service at Arlington National Cemetery at noon on June 8, 2016 commemorating the June 8, 1967 Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY in which 32 Americans were killed and 171 were wounded.
Target Liberty: Obama Challenged to Invite Netanyahu to Attend a Memorial Service Commemorating Those Who Died in the Israeli Attack of the USS LIberty

He don´t have the balls






And as the official report shows it was an accident, just as the killing of the British soldiers in Iraq by American gung ho pilots was also an accident. Will Obama apologise for those deaths ?
right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.





Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?
 
And as the official report shows it was an accident, just as the killing of the British soldiers in Iraq by American gung ho pilots was also an accident. Will Obama apologise for those deaths ?
right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.





Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?

Phoenell is British. There were quite a few friendly fire incidents in both Gulf Wars. For some reason, they are not as famous as the Liberty incident.
 
right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.





Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?

Phoenell is British. There were quite a few friendly fire incidents in both Gulf Wars. For some reason, they are not as famous as the Liberty incident.
it's a lot easier to shell the wrong people once than it is to repeatedly attack a clearly marked ship
 
It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?
Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

You haven't answered the question of , "Why would they do that? What would they gain by that?" Also, since y'all haven't been to Israel, you might not know that Israelis practically worship America and American culture.

Some possible and plausable explanations;

"Among the most popular theories as to why Israel would take such drastic action against its superpower ally is that the Liberty, a $40m state-of-the-art surveillance ship, was eavesdropping on an Israeli massacre of Egyptian prisoners of war. Israel strongly denies its troops executed Egyptian POWs, saying those who died in an incident at that time were 250 armed Palestinian fighters killed in action.

Another is that the ship had learnt of secret Israeli plans to invade Syria's Golan Heights two days later and had to be destroyed.

'US collusion' theory

Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book "Operation Cyanide".

Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory.

"The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand," Mr Hounam says.

"The Liberty was sent into a very dangerous situation, where it was, in my view, placed in a position to be attacked."

Mr Hounam says the intention was to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, but as the Liberty remained afloat the plan was aborted and has been hushed up ever since." BBC NEWS | Middle East | Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?
Yawn, remind us again, how many times has the Liberty libel been brought up on this forum? Must be in the hundreds.
 
Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?

Phoenell is British. There were quite a few friendly fire incidents in both Gulf Wars. For some reason, they are not as famous as the Liberty incident.
it's a lot easier to shell the wrong people once than it is to repeatedly attack a clearly marked ship
A spy ship by nature would not be "clearly marked", nor would it be announced to parties it is spying on. Duh.
 
The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.







HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, and let's not forget another antisemtic favorite. Ha ha ha.
 
Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?

Phoenell is British. There were quite a few friendly fire incidents in both Gulf Wars. For some reason, they are not as famous as the Liberty incident.
it's a lot easier to shell the wrong people once than it is to repeatedly attack a clearly marked ship
A spy ship by nature would not be "clearly marked", nor would it be announced to parties it is spying on. Duh.
lol. whatever you say
 
The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.







HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, and let's not forget another antisemtic favorite. Ha ha ha.
ard you saying that didn't happen?
 
The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.







HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia






Alleged as there is no evidence to support this claim, just conjecture. Or another islamonazi BLOOD LIBEL
 
The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.







HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, and let's not forget another antisemtic favorite. Ha ha ha.
ard you saying that didn't happen?
I'm saying it has nothing to do with the topic. Jew hating scum usually has a list they keep bringing up, because as I said before, they got nothing else.
 
The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.







HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, and let's not forget another antisemtic favorite. Ha ha ha.
ard you saying that didn't happen?





YES all you have is conjecture and propaganda that don't mean a thing
 
The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.







HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, and let's not forget another antisemtic favorite. Ha ha ha.
ard you saying that didn't happen?
I'm saying it has nothing to do with the topic. Jew hating scum usually has a list they keep bringing up, because as I said before, they got nothing else.
it goes to the point that Israel will attack innocents if it suits their goals
 
HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE
"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yeah, and let's not forget another antisemtic favorite. Ha ha ha.
ard you saying that didn't happen?
I'm saying it has nothing to do with the topic. Jew hating scum usually has a list they keep bringing up, because as I said before, they got nothing else.
it goes to the point that Israel will attack innocents if it suits their goals
Allegations having nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Plus, no "attacking of innocents" since the accusation was that the "bombs" we're set to go off several hours after closing time. Which means no loss of life.

So once again, it's a blood libel used to demonize Jews

Anything else? Oh wait, didn't the Jooos do 9-11? Ha ha ha.
 
Yes, but I was specifically talking about the Liberty incident. My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America. Obama has criticized Israel in the areas you've mentioned. As for the incident itself: 1) Does EVERYONE from the Liberty believe that it was deliberate? 2) How can they know it from Israel's point of view? 3) Weren't there already about 7 or 8 investigations that absolved Israel?


"My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America."

And why wouldn't they. We fight their proxy wars for them, hand them about 20% or so of the funding for their defense budget, and back them no matter what they ever do, atrocities and all.







What proxy war have you fought in then ?

Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens

"What proxy war have you fought in then ?"

The US, you remember?

"Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens"

You're making shit up again. "Double"? "10 times"? Bullshit, pulling random numbers out your ass.







So you have fought in the US of A against whom ?

No facts as most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel, and Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid.

I leave the LIES to you and the rest of team Palestine.

I guess this reads like some kind of argument to you?

most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel

Bullshit, gonna need evidence, remember what you typed: most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel

Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid

Let's accept that at face value since you couldn't support it anyway. And you think that's a good thing? That US taxpayers are providing socialist subsidies to arms manufacturers and dealers keeping the middle east in turmoil?

Endless war at the outter reaches of empire is not a good sign for this society going forward.






Like this you mean



Economy of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israeli defense equipment exports have reached 7 billion U.S. dollars in 2012, making it a 20 percent increase from the amount of defense-related exports in 2011. Much of the exports are sold to the United States.



The problem is the US sells weapons to the islamonazi countries at cut prices, anything up to 50% off what Israel pays. All down to Israel subsidising the defence industry, and doing the research for such things as Iron Dome that the US has now bought the rights to.
 
And as the official report shows it was an accident, just as the killing of the British soldiers in Iraq by American gung ho pilots was also an accident. Will Obama apologise for those deaths ?
right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.





Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?




Yes and the SAS had to go in and save their sorry asses again
 
"My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America."

And why wouldn't they. We fight their proxy wars for them, hand them about 20% or so of the funding for their defense budget, and back them no matter what they ever do, atrocities and all.







What proxy war have you fought in then ?

Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens

"What proxy war have you fought in then ?"

The US, you remember?

"Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens"

You're making shit up again. "Double"? "10 times"? Bullshit, pulling random numbers out your ass.







So you have fought in the US of A against whom ?

No facts as most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel, and Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid.

I leave the LIES to you and the rest of team Palestine.

I guess this reads like some kind of argument to you?

most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel

Bullshit, gonna need evidence, remember what you typed: most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel

Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid

Let's accept that at face value since you couldn't support it anyway. And you think that's a good thing? That US taxpayers are providing socialist subsidies to arms manufacturers and dealers keeping the middle east in turmoil?

Endless war at the outter reaches of empire is not a good sign for this society going forward.






Like this you mean



Economy of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israeli defense equipment exports have reached 7 billion U.S. dollars in 2012, making it a 20 percent increase from the amount of defense-related exports in 2011. Much of the exports are sold to the United States.



The problem is the US sells weapons to the islamonazi countries at cut prices, anything up to 50% off what Israel pays. All down to Israel subsidising the defence industry, and doing the research for such things as Iron Dome that the US has now bought the rights to.
Ouch, that's gonna hurt.
 
Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.





Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.


So you're saying the US troops pussed out of the mission?

Phoenell is British. There were quite a few friendly fire incidents in both Gulf Wars. For some reason, they are not as famous as the Liberty incident.
it's a lot easier to shell the wrong people once than it is to repeatedly attack a clearly marked ship





Since when has it been US policy to carry oversize flags on naval vessels, at least 5 times the size of a normal flag. And when you consider that Israel was told that USS Liberty was in international waters 100 miles away it would be so easy to confuse USS Liberty with any of the other Liberty class vessels out there. And for the record the vessel was exactly the same size and displacement as the horse carrier being sister ships. And they were both war surplus from WW2




And in the cases during desert storm the gung ho pilots went back for a second run and could be heard going Palestinian ( celebrating the kills they had just made ) More than once your pilots made errors of judgement and the British Brass believe they were on drugs at the time
 
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